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Pendraken Rules! => Blitzkrieg Commander IV => Topic started by: Sean Clark on 26 March 2022, 02:29:31 PM

Title: Poland 1939 plus Barbarossa
Post by: Sean Clark on 26 March 2022, 02:29:31 PM
I found an aborted project the other day. i had planned to do the September War using I Ain't Been Shot mum using Pendraken figures.

Sorting through what i hasd for the first scenario in that book, I've got enough infantry and supprots for around a battalion aside, minus armoured support.

Am I right in thinking that light machine guns would be included in the infantry platoon base and that only HMG's are represented as a HMG platoon? Also, I have a pack of 50mm mortars. I take these are also factored into the infantry platoon base and only heavier, 81mm mortars are required as seperate models?

Also, looking at a scenario book for Operation Barbarossa, which is what I'm really wanting to play, I have the OOB for the German 1st Panzer Division, where an infantry stand is a platoon (perfect!). However, as an example, the 1st Gepanzert Infantry Battlion  is made up of:

HQ
9 rifles in half tracks
1 HMG
1 75/12mm IIG
1 PAK 35/6
1 Engineer platoon.

This fights alongside a Panzer Battalion, a M/C infantry battlion, plus some off table artillery and air support.

So there'll be a CO, but I'm thinking 1 HQ would sturggle with a whole battlion to command. For the purposes of playing this with BKC, should I include a second HQ as a 2iC? The scenario book is wirtten with Spearhead/BKC/Fistful of TOWS in mind so its mostly an easy port, but I suspect I'll need more HQ's. The panzer battlion for instance has 13 units!
Title: Re: Poland 1939 plus Barbarossa
Post by: John Cook on 26 March 2022, 02:46:13 PM
I haven't used BKS since the first iteration which I adapted to suit my requirements, and perceptions.  My advice is not to be hidebound by the artificial and arcane requirements of any set of rules.  Adapt the rules to what you have, if necessary.  Produce your own credible scenario and go with a historically plausible OB. 
Title: Re: Poland 1939 plus Barbarossa
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 26 March 2022, 03:40:10 PM
Yes add a second HQ
Title: Re: Poland 1939 plus Barbarossa
Post by: fred. on 26 March 2022, 04:25:48 PM

QuoteAm I right in thinking that light machine guns would be included in the infantry platoon base and that only HMG's are represented as a HMG platoon? Also, I have a pack of 50mm mortars. I take these are also factored into the infantry platoon base and only heavier, 81mm mortars are required as seperate models?

Yes to both parts. LMGs are definitely part of the infantry platoon base. 

50mm mortars are not directly represented in BKC - so assume part of the platoon base. 

And then HMGs and 80mm mortars on their own bases. 

As to HQs, the rule of thumb was 1 HQ per 500 pts. I'd generally have 2 HQs for an infantry battalion. I might go as far as 1 HQ per tank company.

Think of the BKC HQs as more battlegroup / task force commanders rather than strictly adhering to the TOE. There are plenty of accounts of A & B company being led by the CO to do something, whilst C company and the support company provides fire support - which suggests 2 BKC commanders for the battalion. 
Title: Re: Poland 1939 plus Barbarossa
Post by: Sean Clark on 26 March 2022, 05:08:22 PM
Thanks chaps.

Yes, I'm capable of doing my own thing but it's nice to hear what the party line is, so I can maximise my own enjoyment.
Title: Re: Poland 1939 plus Barbarossa
Post by: Itinerant Hobbyist on 11 April 2022, 04:45:29 PM
I like this approach.

Quote from: fred. on 26 March 2022, 04:25:48 PMYes to both parts. LMGs are definitely part of the infantry platoon base.

50mm mortars are not directly represented in BKC - so assume part of the platoon base.

And then HMGs and 80mm mortars on their own bases.

As to HQs, the rule of thumb was 1 HQ per 500 pts. I'd generally have 2 HQs for an infantry battalion. I might go as far as 1 HQ per tank company.

Think of the BKC HQs as more battlegroup / task force commanders rather than strictly adhering to the TOE. There are plenty of accounts of A & B company being led by the CO to do something, whilst C company and the support company provides fire support - which suggests 2 BKC commanders for the battalion.
Title: Re: Poland 1939 plus Barbarossa
Post by: Itinerant Hobbyist on 11 April 2022, 04:46:28 PM
Agree with what you. It's nice to hear what people do. Also, I like the IABSM scenario books.

Quote from: Sean Clark on 26 March 2022, 05:08:22 PMThanks chaps.

Yes, I'm capable of doing my own thing but it's nice to hear what the party line is, so I can maximise my own enjoyment.