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We're into Day 6 of our '10 Days of 10mm' and today we're heading back to the Medieval period to add some knights in bascinet helmets (pig-faced/dog-faced) along with a handy monk and nun figure as well. Thanks to fsn for commissioning these!
Medieval
European Late Medieval - https://www.pendraken.co.uk/late-european-558-c.asp
ELM43 Dismounted knights in bascinet, sword/hammer £5.50
ELM44 Dismounted knights in bascinet, spear/halberd £5.50
ELM45 Mounted knights in bascinet, sword (5) £1.85
ELM46 Monks (10) £1.85
ELM47 Nuns (10) £1.85
And the pics:
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Tomorrow we've got a little addition to the WWII Italians...
Yay!
I do like the german paratroopers nuns and monks - useful for so many periods.
Mmm, may have to do a "Sound of Music" camp element.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 19 January 2022, 12:35:51 PMMmm, may have to do a "Sound of Music" camp element.
Proves kitties is silly!
QuoteI do like the german paratroopers nuns and monks - useful for so many periods.
QuoteMmm, may have to do a "Sound of Music" camp element.
.... and it means we can war-game the movie with the action-packed ending it should have had to keep us kids happy.* :)
* memories of disappointment when first dragged along to see it when I was a boy.
So when is Phil producing the Kar98K and MP38/40 ? Got to arm the monks afterall
Quote.... and it means we can war-game the movie with the action-packed ending it should have had to keep us kids happy.* :)
In Andy Hamilton's rather excellent
Old Harry's Game, there is one scene where Scumspawn describes Satan liking T
he Sound of Music, although in his version the nuns hand the family over to the Nazis, and the tone of "Climb Every Mountain" is rather changed when sang by the German stormtroopers . . .
Would those be the leaping nuns of the Order of St Beryl? :D
The Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence®?
Oh so little imagination.
- Objectives - Norsemen kill those monks
- Medics - troops of nuns giving first aid to causlties and acting as casualty clearing stations
- Morale boosters - a troop of nuns giving your troops a bit of a Te Deum from the hillside
- Scenery - someone to stand outside those churches
- Information sources - for discovery type games
- Building up a retinue - add a monk to your command base
- Resistance - either by shutting the doors to that stratgically placed nunnery or placing themselves at the head of that horde of peasants who have just had about as much as they can take
(https://www.historyhit.com/app/uploads/2020/07/Jasna_G%C3%B3ra_1655-2.jpg?x38068)Egging on the citizenry
(https://cdn.historycollection.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/12/Peter_the_Hermit1.jpg)Peter the Hermit leading the way
(https://www-images.christianitytoday.com/images/116122.jpg?h=337&w=600)Bit of al fresco nursing
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/8/82/A_wounded_soldier_having_his_foot_dressed_by_a_nun_Wellcome_V0015310.jpg)... and a bit later on
(https://wp.en.aleteia.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/2/2017/09/nun3.jpg)... and even in the ACW
(https://qph.fs.quoracdn.net/main-qimg-b78d26740792696ba4844a85b54b93cc-lq) Target for the men of Odin
(https://previews.agefotostock.com/previewimage/medibigoff/915d8ba2907d597f45ecb5e3fe0bb04c/iam-0390000434.jpg) ... and having a bad time during the Boxer Rebellion
(https://www.medievalists.net/wp-content/uploads/2016/02/medieval-monastic-orders.png)Using the self service machine at MacDonalds
Oh those knights are rather nice 8) . I only need a few for a project so perfect timing really. Looking forward to seeing what the Italians are getting too!
What's a Te Diem?
QuoteOh those knights are rather nice 8)
They are. Techno's finest. :D
QuoteWhat's a Te Diem?
It's Latin for "Thee Day" - a day for pampering yourself, clearly.
So, in context it's a bunch of fifth columnist nuns urging your troops to "make love not war." :)
Quote from: FierceKitty on 19 January 2022, 01:46:55 PMWhat's a Te Diem?
In the immortal words of Tom Lehrer:
"Oh we will all char together when we char.
And let there be no moaning of the bar.
Just sing out a te deum
When you see that i.c.b.m.,
And the party will be "come as you are."
Doesn't make DEVS and DIES equivalent. ;D
QuoteSo when is Phil producing the Kar98K and MP38/40 ? Got to arm the monks afterall
Surely we need the Holy Hand Grenade of Antioch to arm the monks correctly?
QuoteOh those knights are rather nice 8) .
And to be slightly more serious, I do agree with this. Tempting . . .
Quote from: Steve J on 19 January 2022, 01:43:13 PMLooking forward to seeing what the Italians are getting too!
I think you might have already seen it... ;)
Quote from: fsn on 19 January 2022, 01:40:24 PM- Objectives - Norsemen kill those monks
And others. Aethelfrith (presumably Anglian) is supposed to have slaughtered monks at Chester approx 613 Bede says that he decided to attack them because, although they were not armed, they were opposing him through their prayers. The number of dead monks was said to be about 1200, with only fifty escaping.
So thats 12 packs at 1:10 with some proxy of a running figure for the escapees.
And then, those super knights! Leon the puppet master strikes again.
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
#:-S
I'm getting monks. One of them will be St Francis Xavier.
I thought that might be the case Leon :D .
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 19 January 2022, 07:21:14 PMI'm getting monks. One of them will be St Francis Xavier.
Mmmm, good idea. I'm pinching that.
No pinching required :)
As with almost all ideas you can use it without depriving anyone else of it ;)
QuoteMmmm, good idea. I'm pinching that.
QuoteI'm getting monks. One of them will be St Francis Xavier.
Once again I expose my ignorance. Wikipedia tells me he was a Jesuit founder and a very active missionary. But where is he relevant to wargames?
He got on very well with Oda Nobunaga.
No one expects the Spanish Japanese Inquisition, our two main weapons are fear, surprise .... and a fanatical devotion to the Shogun? :)
Thanks guys. Shows how anglo-centric my so called knowledge is. I was thinking there are so many other choices of priests and monks who have encouraged the butchering of fellow humans in the name of God on the actual battlefield. Dark ages, Byzantines, Reconquista, Crusades, National wars in GB, HYW, Conquistadores,... Monk packs could be a best seller! Yet this guy seemed more of an exceptionally well travelled missionary. Guess it could work out the same depending on the ears that listen to you. So your Xavier will appear on a command stand presumably with a small pile of fire-wood around a pole behind him? Oh that was a different thread....
Quote from: DecemDave on 20 January 2022, 10:07:02 AMThanks guys. Shows how anglo-centric my so called knowledge is. I was thinking there are so many other choices of priests and monks who have encouraged the butchering of fellow humans in the name of God on the actual battlefield. Dark ages, Byzantines, Reconquista, Crusades, National wars in GB, HYW, Conquistadores,... Monk packs could be a best seller! Yet this guy seemed more of an exceptionally well travelled missionary. Guess it could work out the same depending on the ears that listen to you. So your Xavier will appear on a command stand presumably with a small pile of fire-wood around a pole behind him? Oh that was a different thread....
There you go. If you think of the influence of Christianity or the last 2000 years or so, and the remarkable lack of fashion choices, Monks and Nuns are quite useful.
I love the story of Nobunaga's saying to him "Either you Christians are super humans, or you're pulling off the biggest scam in history."
Quote from: fsn on 20 January 2022, 01:02:13 PMThere you go. If you think of the influence of Christianity or the last 2000 years or so, and the remarkable lack of fashion choices, Monks and Nuns are quite useful.
Jesuits chose black because they could, as black dye was invented in the fourteenth century: plenty of fashion awareness amongst the clergy! :o 8) :D ;)
Well that must come as a surprise for the Benedictines who had been wearing black for 800 years.
:P
Quote from: fsn on 20 January 2022, 07:30:40 PMWell that must come as a surprise for the Benedictines who had been wearing black for 800 years.
:P
Complex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black
In the 14th century, the status of black began to change. First, high-quality black dyes began to arrive on the market, allowing garments of a deep, rich black. Magistrates and government officials began to wear black robes, as a sign of the importance and seriousness of their positions. A third reason was the passage of sumptuary laws in some parts of Europe which prohibited the wearing of costly clothes and certain colors by anyone except members of the nobility. The famous bright scarlet cloaks from Venice and the peacock blue fabrics from Florence were restricted to the nobility. The wealthy bankers and merchants of northern Italy responded by changing to black robes and gowns, made with the most expensive fabrics.
A recent code in use for medieval camp scene. It takes two to tango, as they say on TMP.
:-bd =D> :-bd
QuoteComplex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Black
In the 14th century, the status of black began to change. First, high-quality black dyes began to arrive on the market, allowing garments of a deep, rich black. Magistrates and government officials began to wear black robes, as a sign of the importance and seriousness of their positions. A third reason was the passage of sumptuary laws in some parts of Europe which prohibited the wearing of costly clothes and certain colors by anyone except members of the nobility. The famous bright scarlet cloaks from Venice and the peacock blue fabrics from Florence were restricted to the nobility. The wealthy bankers and merchants of northern Italy responded by changing to black robes and gowns, made with the most expensive fabrics.
The Landsknechts laugh at your sumptuary laws.
Seeing the new monk figure reminds me I had been looking for a figure to use for a priest to go with Spanish Civil War Carlists.
QuoteSeeing the new monk figure reminds me I had been looking for a figure to use for a priest to go with Spanish Civil War Carlists.
It could be the most flexible pack that Pendraken ever commissioned.
Not sure about that. I think that the sheep & goats are most flexible, as they go back to biblical times. :'(
Quote from: Big Insect on 04 February 2022, 04:41:58 PMNot sure about that. I think that the sheep & goats are most flexible, as they go back to biblical times. :'(
Further, wouldn't you say?
Sheep and goats seem to have been the first animals to be domesticated, about 12,000 years ago. Not that they looked exactly like the Pendraken ones.
Back when I did Archaeology at uni the remains of sheep and goats at sites like Jericho and Çatal Hüyük were described merely as ovicaprids because the fragmentary remains were indistinguishable to the tests available at the time.
What a coincidence. Ovicaprid curry tonight.