Just off the wall, I fancy these ones:
* Minoan athletes vaulting over charging bulls; suitably half-clad spectators
* sarcophagus carver, or group of NKE morticians laying a mummy to rest
* NKE dancers and musicians; diners watching the show
* Assyrian queen in litter, with attendants
* Scythian burial tumulus
* Persian traitor being executed by "the boats"
* ex-Socrates, with weeping disciples
* Alexander killing Cleitus
* Punic deity and firepit, with offering
* Roman decimation
* Sarmatian damsel proudly showing trophy to in-laws-to-be
* shieldmaiden returning to camp with treasure chest under one arm, pretty boy over opposite shoulder
* William the Bastard eating sand
* laundry on line, washtub to one side
* Timur playing chess
* French irregulars plundering Henry V's baggage
* Byzantine clergy and commanders kneeling at altar with icon
* Michelangelo halfway through David
* Landsknechts playing cards on drumhead
* Mexican gladitorial sacrifice
* Chinese gong; large man bashing it
* Turkish slave market
* Mamluk Arabian Nights harem
* Cossacks writing insulting letter to Sultan
* the incident behind the Mannequin Pis in Brussels
* Swedish/NMA clergyman preaching to bare-headed soldiers
* Cavalier roaring boy at table, bottle in hand, wench on knee
* 18th-century harpsichordist and flautist
* 18th-century malefactor running the gauntlet
* 18th-century duelists (guess what my favourite movie is?)
* Victorian civilians picnicking (also suit Russian ladies watching the battle of the Alma)
Ideas?
Think you hit most of them there !
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* Victorian civilians picnicking (also suit Russian ladies watching the battle of the Alma)
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I've missed the point of the laundry :-/
Picnickers could also be watching 1
st Bull Run, fleeing carriages optional
Washerwomen are very often mentioned in camps.
Oh, yes, Mother Courage and the Brechtian ensemble.
* malefactor in stocks, possibly being teased by ragged kids
I'm up for those
Portable Guillotine
Or:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QIflxDqX7Tg
Some of you really need to see a shrink .....
;)
Crucifixion scene ;)
Westmarcher may be right ;D
Our hobby is reenacting mass murder! We all need straightjackets.
But I've got a certificate to prove my sanity
QuoteBut I've got a certificate to prove my sanity
"I'm not crazy, my mother had me tested" (Sheldon Cooper, The Big Bang Theory).
Baggage Train. Military. n. A train of vehicles, used to carry baggage, especially following an army.
Some components of a baggage train, the ammunition waggons, ration waggons, pontoon waggons, engineer waggons, mobile forges etc would be useful first.
Awww, you're no fun any more.
QuoteOur hobby is reenacting mass murder! We all need straightjackets.
Murder is the unlawful killing of another human.
Warfare generally moves the act of killing outside normal criminal law considerations (not always) and so please undo these straightjackets at once! >:(
(mass killing; probably - no mens rea of the crime of murder however ;) )
Quote from: Gwydion on 27 December 2021, 12:43:05 PMMurder is the unlawful killing of another human.
Warfare generally moves the act of killing outside normal criminal law considerations (not always) and so please undo these straightjackets at once! >:(
(mass killing; probably - no mens rea of the crime of murder however ;) )
I'm sure that's a great comfort to the victims. ;D
I've been reading some of the replies and I'm shocked and appalled.... - do winners not impale anybody any more??
My ancestors would shake their heads, tutt-tutt and slowly walk away (if they could).... :D :D
Any 'Looting' of Baggage train would make for a good vignette. Medieval, ECW, Naps...esp. Peninsula Brits! Zulus. Or ACW..."Hey! This wagon's got Boots! New Boots!" ;D
Back to the gruesome, and 'scavengers' / 'Corpse Looters/Tooth Pullers'. Priest with piled Dead. Victorious Warriors with Heads.. not new concept... but a Bulldozer and mass grave might be. :o :(
War IS Utterly Horrible. Smart uniforms and Heroism don't last long... except in memorium.
In the lyrics of 'White Mansions', (An ACW LP from youth):
"Heroes look Bad... when all they had... has been eaten by the worms and the rats".
But the Game goes on! :o ;)
I was wondering how many dozens of each vignette people were thinking of buying, were any of them to be produced? One-off sales of each would, I think, not be a viable commercial proposition. I seem to remember Leon explained the commercial viability of moulds some time ago. I would think that all these were non-starters.
QuoteI was wondering how many dozens of each vignette people were thinking of buying, were any of them to be produced? One-off sales of each would, I think, not be a viable commercial proposition. I seem to remember Leon explained the commercial viability of moulds some time ago. I would think that all these were non-starters.
Who needs Pendraken to mould them? Have we really lost the will to convert the things that are made into the things that we want?
Excuse me, I need to go find some Plasticine and banana oil. :)
Quote from: Ithoriel on 28 December 2021, 10:06:44 AMWho needs Pendraken to mould them? Have we really lost the will to convert the things that are made into the things that we want?
Excuse me, I need to go find some Plasticine and banana oil. :)
I think that might be a bit of an art lost in the gaming world these days, Mike....a more viable solution currently is purhaps to find/create an .STL file and fire up a 3D printer? :-\
Where there is a Will, there is a Way!
I do not care for vignettes or dioramas... not in 10mm!
But... loads of figures to convert or approximate if of a mind to!
I have at least three 'possible' projects in 10mm Pendraken which would need a lot of work for 'army' size units:
'Varus' Romans... some swords to Pili Pilums Javelins!
'Terminators':Skeletons to 'endoskeletons'.
'Game of Thrones' figures... massive project!
Figures in pile but None are likely to start anytime soon!
Conversion of a few figures for a Vignette is very 'do-abable' with care.
If you want to.
Moulding of figs... no way... Brit tea drinkers apart! LOL!
A lot of my camp scenes are scratchbuilt. It's quite relaxing while waiting for the next shipment of real armies.
Not a fan of vignettes on a table meself, though I can see them as target markers or local colour (aka "obstacles").
Having said that the YouTuber "Napoleonic Wargames" modifies rules because of vignettes. For example, he added a signal station (Perry Port14) to his Portuguese army and allowed generals to appear to be 12" closer (using Black Powder).
Many rule sets (principally ancient and medieval, but a few pike and shot as well) require a baggage train/camp in the rear as a lure for breakthrough attackers and 'victory point' objective. Hence the 'vignette' obsession. I blame DBA and Phil Barker :D
One of the few things I give them credit for.
Quote from: pierre the shy on 28 December 2021, 10:52:12 AMI think that might be a bit of an art lost in the gaming world these days, Mike....a more viable solution currently is purhaps to find/create an .STL file and fire up a 3D printer? :-\
Please will people stop suggesting 3d Printers. I am trying not to buy one.
Reasons not to buy:-
1. I am sure it will take ages to work out how to get good prints from it
2. I will end up printing more stuff to wargame with , which will need painting and storing.
3 I have more pressing things to spend £200 plus on.
Reasons to buy
1 It will be interesting working out how to get good prints
2 I can print all those things I NEED like an armoured train
3 I will soon save the cost of the printer
QuotePlease will people stop suggesting 3d Printers. I am trying not to buy one.
I know exactly where you're coming from.
So far I've resisted, helped by a comment I saw somewhere: "3D printing is almost a hobby in itself". Thanks, I really don't need another hobby ;)
Quote from: Orcs on 28 December 2021, 05:35:26 PMPlease will people stop suggesting 3d Printers. I am trying not to buy one.
But you'll get plenty of supports if you do ;)
Shall I get my coat on? :-\
Quote from: Ithoriel on 28 December 2021, 10:06:44 AMWho needs Pendraken to mould them? Have we really lost the will to convert the things that are made into the things that we want?
Not me. I've been scratch building, converting and modifying models for more than sixty years.
Almost all my Napoleonic and ACW vehicles are scratch built because few are made in 10mm.
I have converted soft skinned WW2 vehicles into obscure specialist types that not even Pithead would consider, such as communications, command, workshop and recovery vehicles.
Most of my mounted Napoleonic and ACW mounted staff officers are conversions and larger headquarters are represented by mini-dioramas, comprising numerous one-off conversions, for all periods.
I could get by using the same figures over and over again, and vehicles that bear little or no relationship to the originals but I prefer not not.
But, one has to recognise that some people don't have the wherewithal, or inclination, to convert, let alone scratch build, anything.
My guess, though, is that vignette type figures which will only be sold singly are simple not commercial propositions.