Hopefully that grabbed everyone's attention!
As mentioned in another thread, a company called Filla-Glu contacted us recently about stocking their range. They have now kindly sent me a pack of samples, so:
Who would like to test some glues for us? The first six people who volunteer in this thread will receive one of the various samples, with the only condition being that you test it out, and report back to the Forum with a quick review.
:-bd
PS: If anyone would like to test a particular product, I've got:
- Regular with prepping 'Kicka' pen
- Fast setting with 'Undo' solution
- 'Powda' and 'Wicking' for filling gaps
- Coloured (black)
- Regular medium set
- 'Brush On'
[sticks hand up] Yes please! :-bd
Don't mind which...
I'll go for some basic stuff if that's okay...
I can always use some glue
Gordon
I'm in, any product tested :D :-*
I can give it a go :D
me too :)
And there's the 6! I'll check I've got addresses for you all and get them in the post Monday.
too slow :'(
Right then, we're posting the following to:
- Slow set with prepping 'Kicka' pen - Nik
- Fast setting with 'Undo' solution - Sandinista
- 'Powda' and 'Wicking' for filling gaps - Maenoferren
- Coloured (black) - GordonY
- Regular medium set - Mad Lemmey
- 'Brush On' - Republic of Tolworth
Once they arrive, if you could have a little test and get back to us with some opinions! And thanks for the help!
Booohooo what about me :'( :'( :'(
Quote from: Maenoferren on 31 January 2011, 07:44:49 PM
Booohooo what about me :'( :'( :'(
:-[ :D
Yeah, I got myself muddled up with something else I was doing at the time, I've edited the post above now!
stopped cruing in the corner now :D
I will do you a dashed good write up then
Quote from: Leon on 31 January 2011, 07:17:56 PM
- Fast setting with 'Undo' solution - Sandinista
My wife said something similar :P
Mine arrived on Wednesday, thank you very much (sorry I didn't write sooner, been a little hectic round here)
It will get tested tonight on some resin bunkers I need to assemble...
Quote from: mad lemmey on 04 February 2011, 02:02:09 PM
Mine arrived on Wednesday, thank you very much (sorry I didn't write sooner, been a little hectic round here)
It will get tested tonight on some resin bunkers I need to assemble...
Good stuff, I was wondering if everyone's samples had arrived yet.
Yep just got mine, thanks Leon, I'm just waiting for some 15mm APCs to arrive to test it on.
Gordon
Mine arrived, but didn't make it past the post box until now :-[
Over excited by a livestock delivery ;)
Glue and animals don't mix, well not well anyway ;D
I got back from Edinburgh to find a nice little package of Filla-glu black. I will do something with it and do a write up :D
Used the medium/standard and 'powda' over the weekend.
Glue was very very liquid for a 'medium' consistancy, and had quite a large spread from a wide nozzle, (which maybe why the extra thin nozzle for detail work) the glue itself has proved to be very strong, but does take a while to go off. It even remained liquid for about a minute on my hands before drying (as I placed my hand on my face)! But once it does dry the bond is good and strong.
The 'powda' is interesting, it is a fast pouring series of granuals that again could benifit from a narrower nozzle at times. They get everywhere! The idea is that they fill gaps and the glue expands them, this they do well, but I had to spend time experimenting to see whether they need applying first, then gueing or vice versa. I would apply glue first in future, then use them to 'mop up'. They leave a fine grain sandy effect after they have dried, so don't use them on what you want to be smooth surfaces.
Also, I noticed that when you apply inks or watered down paints to it (basing wash) they absorb the paint and spead out again if they haven't been caught be the area glued (i.e. sand and pva mix basing, figure fell off, reattached with the glue and 'powda' applied, left to dry then inked).
Overall, happy with the products, but the 'powda' needed instructions!
Thanks for the info! Did I send you the 'Powda', that was supposed to come with the 'Wicking', as they need to be used together! That could be why it didn't go off straight away?
Damned! Too late! Arghhh
;D
Quote from: Leon on 07 February 2011, 08:57:06 PM
Did I send you the 'Powda', that was supposed to come with the 'Wicking', as they need to be used together!
:D
Not had a chance to get near mine thus far...I blame the bank fo rmaking me work for a living...will rectify this weekend 8)
Well my APCs arrived today and I tested out the FillaGlue on one, sorry but I'm a bit underwhelmed with it. I found it a bit thick and too slow drying, every time I thought it had a good grip I'd put the model down which then promptly fell apart again. I went back to my cheap and nasty Poundland superglue and built the rest of the APCs using that. I'll use it up sticking figures to bases, it cant go wrong with that.
Gordon
I could use sme filler
Well I've finally used the Filla-Glu Instant LV. I found it runnier than Loctite and Wilkinson’s own brand and due to that i felt i was using more, also as it was runnier it seemed messier as well.
Though importantly it appears to stick stuff as well as the others so I can’t say there is any difference between the three on that.
Looking at prices it may be a good option as it is listed at £4.08 for a 20g bottle whereas 10g of Loctite super glue is £4.28 in Wilkinson.
The Gel Undo, again listed at £4.08. I used it and wondered why, when warm water and/or a scalpel/file works just the same.
I’ll pass both onto R.o.T & Hurrah to see what they think of them.
Quote from: GordonY on 09 February 2011, 03:39:30 PM
Well my APCs arrived today and I tested out the FillaGlue on one, sorry but I'm a bit underwhelmed with it. I found it a bit thick and too slow drying, every time I thought it had a good grip I'd put the model down which then promptly fell apart again. I went back to my cheap and nasty Poundland superglue and built the rest of the APCs using that. I'll use it up sticking figures to bases, it cant go wrong with that.
Thanks for that Gordon, Poundland it is then!
Quote from: Sandinista on 09 February 2011, 07:20:42 PM
Well I've finally used the Filla-Glu Instant LV. I found it runnier than Loctite and Wilkinsons own brand and due to that i felt i was using more, also as it was runnier it seemed messier as well.
Though importantly it appears to stick stuff as well as the others so I cant say there is any difference between the three on that.
Looking at prices it may be a good option as it is listed at £4.08 for a 20g bottle whereas 10g of Loctite super glue is £4.28 in Wilkinson.
The Gel Undo, again listed at £4.08. I used it and wondered why, when warm water and/or a scalpel/file works just the same.
Ill pass both onto R.o.T & Hurrah to see what they think of them.
Cheers Sandinista!
It makes me wonder how our current superglue would compare against them.
Update soon.
Work has gone tits up for me so not got a chance to do much with figs >:(
Have decided to cut a camel in half and see if this stuff will glue it back together, the things I do for my art :D.
Still not 100% sure why you might need black superglue though :-\
I have had a play around with the glue.
As it is a sample bottle, my initial comments may not apply to the ones you can buy.
the bottle is small and quite thick plastic which means you have to press really hard which in turn makes it difficult to be accurate, the nozzle opening is a couple of mm across so you can get a bit of a splurge as you suddenly get the flow moving.
I ran a test on a 28mm wierd war German. Accuracy was a problem, I got some big splodges of glue, which is taking a while to set, long enough for my fingers to hurt hanging onto the figure. 3 minutes later I can still move the arms, now to be fair this might be more to do with the amount of glue rather than any issues with the product.
still a bit of movement and I cant say how long it has been.
The glue when it comes out seems quite viscous, but once you spread it out it sint as thick as it first seems.
on the whole I am not to sure whether it is any different to the superglue I have, apart from being black that is.
I will have another play about with it and let you know where that leads
cheers
Stephen
It was 'wicking', thanks Leon.
It certainly wicks, very liquid and it certainly wicks, the 'powda' does stop the spread!
Finally got round to testing mine [not on figures, but prompted by one of the cats knocking a horse ornament off the windowsill. Said cat made a funny noise as it was launched out into the rain a minute ago.]
Right: I've got Instant HV [High Viscosity] & the Kicka-Pen [Primer & Activator in one]
What can I say? I've used accelerators for superglue before - which have come in spray form - which (a) stinks and (b) goes absolutely fecking everywhere: so to have it in pen form [with a chisel nib like a highlighter] is *great*; not too smelly either.
The glue itself is nice & thick and is controllable through a decent nozzle; bond was fast too with the Kicka.
All in all: top-notch, very nice indeed: and completely essential for those multi-part models which can be a nightmare to assamble.
A free and easy way to kick of super-glue is as follows:
- Breath heavily over one of the parts you want to glue together. The moisture from your breath acts as a 'kicker' to the glue (it's the moisture in your skin that makes your fingers bond instantly!) and doesn't stink the place out, unless you have halitosis.
- Apply a thin coat of glue to the other part.
- Put two pieces together and wait for a few seconds and they should have started to bond. Leave for a few minutes and everything should be fine.
Quote from: nikharwood on 13 February 2011, 12:28:17 PM
What can I say? I've used accelerators for superglue before - which have come in spray form - which (a) stinks and (b) goes absolutely fecking everywhere: so to have it in pen form [with a chisel nip like a highlighter] is *great*; not too smelly either.
The glue itself is nice & thick and is controllable through a decent nozzle; bond was fast too with the Kicka.
All in all: top-notch, very nice indeed: and completely essential for those multi-part models which can be a nightmare to assamble.
Cheers Nik!
Kind of a mixed bag so far on the reviews. :-\