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Title: Seven Years war in India
Post by: bong67 on 27 January 2011, 12:01:58 PM
Hi,
Is there any chance that some additions could be made to the Seven Years Warrange to cover the war in India.  What I'm proposing is not a new range as such but rather some new packs:
British Sepoys
French/Native Sepoys
Maharatta horse
Indian matchlock men
Indian warriors on foot

Of these proposals the Indain horse and foot could probably also be part of the proposed Indian muitiny range and other units like British and French regulars are already in the range.
All the best,
George
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: FierceKitty on 27 January 2011, 01:57:55 PM
I've got two Moghal-era armies. Many of the figures are already available (barring sepoys, admittedly).
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: Leon on 30 January 2011, 04:07:28 AM
Votes added!
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: lentulus on 02 March 2012, 02:31:25 PM
Add my votes, if they are not already there
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: republic of tolworth on 02 March 2012, 04:15:16 PM
Add mine to, though I think the vote for sepoys has already been done  :-\
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: YORSTONS on 11 March 2012, 07:50:19 PM
You can add my vote please.
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: Peritas on 11 March 2012, 08:26:07 PM
Please add my vote
Thanks

Best regards

Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: Bernie on 11 March 2012, 08:36:23 PM
Think you will also need Rocketeers and suitable Indian artillery as well
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: wargamesbob on 11 March 2012, 08:46:29 PM
I'll add my vote to this too.

Bob
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: lentulus on 12 March 2012, 02:18:47 AM
Quote from: Bernie on 11 March 2012, 08:36:23 PM
Think you will also need Rocketeers and suitable Indian artillery as well

And these!  And these!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/N7441944526T.jpg)

:D
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: Leon on 12 March 2012, 03:18:25 PM
Quote from: lentulus on 12 March 2012, 02:18:47 AM
And these!  And these!

(http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/d/d2/N7441944526T.jpg)

:D

What the...!

:o
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: GordonY on 12 March 2012, 05:13:42 PM
Very early tanks!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

We wants them, we does, my precious.
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: nikharwood on 12 March 2012, 05:30:04 PM
Foly Huck! Those are bonkers... 8-} I want some.  :d
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: fred. on 12 March 2012, 06:22:53 PM
Totally bonkers

There is an admiral dude at the far left directing operations. Is the elephant there to push or is just in the background. There must be at least 10 oxen per wagon. The wagons look sideways on to normal wagons, do you think they have extra wheels in the middle or would this make them unsteerable?

Could see these make an appearance in Dogs of War army?
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: clibinarium on 12 March 2012, 06:26:42 PM
Is that set up one of those Victorian imaginings or does it have a basis in fact?
I can't imagine its possible to fire a cannon over the heads of oxen without them freaking out.
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: fred. on 12 March 2012, 06:45:45 PM
See the bottom of this page http://www.google.co.uk/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=naweb%20artillery%20platform&source=web&cd=8&ved=0CGQQFjAH&url=http%3A%2F%2Fchalklands.wordpress.com%2F&ei=r0NeT7r9HIuq8QPOt4iGDw&usg=AFQjCNE9AC7nmHZ6hbCTF_0V-zXx5jtV7A&sig2=8C5nMYm6v-S2RdxKzXPtEg
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 March 2012, 06:49:34 PM
http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=eV262iNGUb4C&pg=PA146&lpg=PA146&dq=nawab's+artillery+platform&source=bl&ots=CS0rs22HPa&sig=QhDeT3uNOCvslD2uo1StpShNA8s&hl=en&sa=X&ei=FEVeT7CbF8Gg0QXK_byqCw&ved=0CCYQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q=nawab's%20artillery%20platform&f=false

Try this...

*DAMMIT NINJA'D!*
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: Matt J on 12 March 2012, 07:45:45 PM
I'm sorry but with that set up they would've been lucky to hit the farmyard let alone the barn door.
Would've caused more damage stampeding the oxen at the enemy.

Mind you would be a nice little earner Leon probably would use the same amount of lead as an armoured division (each pulled by 40 to 50 yoke of oxen and an elephant).
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: fred. on 12 March 2012, 07:56:07 PM
That first link was a bit vague

(http://i707.photobucket.com/albums/ww71/chalklands/100_0060.jpg)
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: Leon on 12 March 2012, 08:00:51 PM
Well that has to be one of the most insane things I've ever seen.  Or had requested!  I wouldn't imagine it would be too hard to scratch build though, we could supply the oxen and guns (although we'd need the crew), all someone would need to add is the 'stage' and a few sandbags, etc.

:-\
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: Bernie on 12 March 2012, 08:50:08 PM
In reply to Leon's last post - no more insane than rocketeers on camels!
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: lentulus on 12 March 2012, 09:59:31 PM
Quote from: Leon on 12 March 2012, 08:00:51 PM
Well that has to be one of the most insane things I've ever seen.  Or had requested!  I wouldn't imagine it would be too hard to scratch build though, we could supply the oxen and guns (although we'd need the crew), all someone would need to add is the 'stage' and a few sandbags, etc.

:-\

Actually, I would probably scratch-build it (once you have those turbaned Indian gunners) and appropriate SYW Sepoy and the like.
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: Techno on 13 March 2012, 06:40:55 AM
I'm probably missing something really obvious here, but what on earth was the point of mounting a 'gun' on a huge and presumably very heavy 'flatbed' and then having to use SO many beasts to pull the whole thing ?
Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: Leon on 13 March 2012, 04:28:22 PM
I was chatting with Dave about this last night, and as far as he knows, it was essentially a mobile fort.  The oxen would pull the platform into position long before the battle started, and then the oxen would be detached and withdrawn. 

One thing which did strike me from reading the info posted in the links above, was that it seems to imply that 18, 24, or 32 pdrs (I think) were used on it?  But that kind of artillery piece would weigh literally tons, and I don't think you'd be able to build a platform strong enough to carry them and still be mobile.  The illustration from the newspaper article shows a much smaller gun, like a 3pdr.

:-\
Title: Re: Seven Years war in India
Post by: fred. on 13 March 2012, 05:26:04 PM
Part of the problem is that the drawing is from 150 years after the event.

Semi mobile forts make more sense, as a horde of oxen would make a nice traget and wouldn't be too happy having canon fired over their heads