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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => 20th Century => Topic started by: Heedless Horseman on 11 May 2021, 05:57:27 PM

Title: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 11 May 2021, 05:57:27 PM
Has anyone seen a Cullin Hedge Cutter on a Churchill? I haven't. Maybe the Churchill's excellent x country ability made them unnecessary.. or maybe the front hull with projecting 'horns' made it impractical? Curious?
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: fsn on 11 May 2021, 06:27:44 PM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Au_7-GsWlfE/XKPWpeJv9sI/AAAAAAAA5xs/5oag6R732WIyMh9rE5mNpb6vOsC_in5rACLcBGAs/s640/Churchill%2BVII%2B079ab.jpg)
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 11 May 2021, 09:36:21 PM
Brilliant: Fiery doom and spiky death bits.

Throw in a flying dustbin thrower and some machinegun sponsons and you're ready for 40K
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 12 May 2021, 05:54:33 AM
Thanks for that FSN. It does say unusual... but an interesting possibility!  :)

steve_holmes_11 . Crocodile with cutters and a Petard Mortar!  :o Now, there's a thought for a 'Fun' tank!  8) Could add 3" rockets... or a Calliope mounting!  ;D ;D ;D
(And a gramophone to play 'Ride Of the Valkyries'!)  8) 8) 8)
... But... Then... There was a 'speccy', tone deaf, 16yr old... with a Panzerfaust... and the rest was history!  ;)
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 May 2021, 06:27:00 AM
Good one
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 12 May 2021, 08:36:03 AM
Quote from: Heedless Horseman on 12 May 2021, 05:54:33 AM
Thanks for that FSN. It does say unusual... but an interesting possibility!  :)

steve_holmes_11 . Crocodile with cutters and a Petard Mortar!  :o Now, there's a thought for a 'Fun' tank!  8) Could add 3" rockets... or a Calliope mounting!  ;D ;D ;D
(And a gramophone to play 'Ride Of the Valkyries'!)  8) 8) 8)
... But... Then... There was a 'speccy', tone deaf, 16yr old... with a Panzerfaust... and the rest was history!  ;)

I was thinking along the lines of sponsons with spring loaded boxing gloves (for close in defence).

Valkuries is obviously out since it's a dreadful Bosche tune.
Instead I recommend Gracie Fields performing The Thing-ummy-bob.
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: Big Insect on 12 May 2021, 12:21:10 PM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 12 May 2021, 08:36:03 AM
Valkuries is obviously out since it's a dreadful Bosche tune.
Instead I recommend Gracie Fields performing The Thing-ummy-bob.

Jesuselum or Rule Britannia or Land of Hope & Glory
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 May 2021, 12:25:13 PM
Mark you missed "Mars"...
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: Ithoriel on 12 May 2021, 01:20:54 PM
Gracie Fields singing "Eskimo Song"*


*Whale Meat Again
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: DecemDave on 12 May 2021, 02:27:43 PM
Depends on the theatre perhaps?

My memory tells me there was some desert war film in which all vehicles of all  nationalities played their local language version of Lili Marlene.     

Hopefully there were Churchills in the desert theatre.  Not my period so if not be merciful.     :D   I can see they may not have needed hedge cutters. 
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: Raider4 on 12 May 2021, 02:45:32 PM
Quote from: Big Insect on 12 May 2021, 12:21:10 PM
Jesuselum or Rule Britannia or Land of Hope & Glory

Men of Harlech
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 May 2021, 02:58:00 PM
Quote from: Raider4 on 12 May 2021, 02:45:32 PM
Men of Harlech

Na to Welshist. Lilly Marlena -Sung by 8th Army in English, doubt it was picked up 1st Army or the yanks...Jerusalem was used by 21st Army group, also we (as 5th/8th Kings}) had a version of "Old King Cole". There is also "You'll Never get to Heaven" used by both Army and Airforce, just changed the vehicles around. 
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: DecemDave on 12 May 2021, 03:11:29 PM
Quote from: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 May 2021, 02:58:00 PM
doubt it was picked up 1st Army or the yanks 

Perhaps not so infamously but she WAS a Hollywood star through WW2 and did record an english language version in the US.

Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: DecemDave on 12 May 2021, 03:39:41 PM
Sorry.  She = Marlene Deitrich
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 12 May 2021, 03:50:49 PM
I'd guessed !
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 12 May 2021, 04:41:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YlgAiahmko

LOL! I was once 'helping (?) out' on my uncle's farm, post Poly. Sitting on a 'Clapped Out' tractor... (burst tyres, headlamps hanging off!)... towing a ('functional, just!'), baler round and round a Bl**dy Big Field on a sunny day... a LONG way from anyone (!)... singing what I could remember of 'Lili Marlene' (In English!).  8) ;D ;D ;D

'You Are My Sunshine!' would be a good choice!  ;)
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: fsn on 12 May 2021, 07:42:36 PM
(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-Au_7-GsWlfE/XKPWpeJv9sI/AAAAAAAA5xs/5oag6R732WIyMh9rE5mNpb6vOsC_in5rACLcBGAs/s640/Churchill%2BVII%2B079ab.jpg)

Just come in from a 12 hour day ... so may not be at my best ... but if these Churchills are supporting an American attack, they may well have been enhanced by some friendly Yank fitters. Secondly, wasn't the Bocage more of a feature of the US flank? The Commonwealth was more pointed at Caen, so hedgerow cutter were less useful.

Having said that, a Crocodile with those teeth is somewhat fearsome. You'd have to paint the cutter white and add some eyes on the horns.   
 
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: DecemDave on 12 May 2021, 08:23:11 PM
Quote from: Heedless Horseman on 12 May 2021, 04:41:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YlgAiahmko


The combination of the members of this forum and t'Interweb is awesome.  Thanks for the link.   

I was 14 when that came out.   I told Matron only this morning that there was nothing wrong with my memory.   Now what were we talking about?
Title: Re: Hedge Cutters on Churchills
Post by: Raider4 on 12 May 2021, 08:43:07 PM
Quote from: Heedless Horseman on 12 May 2021, 04:41:01 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5YlgAiahmko

"English lyrics by personnel of the LRDG and the SAS" . . . LOL.

Very wobbly left front on that jeep as well.