Evening all,
Been lurking for a few months looking at everyone else's great projects and wanted to share my first pendraken/10mm historical figures. I've been interested in Napoleonics for years, but paralysed by indecision around scale. However, I've had fun painting some old 10mm GW Warmaster fantasy figure the last two years, so thought it might be a good scale to finally give Napoleonics a proper go!
Dipping my toes in with some French with a bit of a mix of stuff for a first go:
(Bavarian dragoons ... I like the hats? Just exploring the range a bit!)
(https://i.imgur.com/LqvKpNE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/lgRU1cB.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/yetfGap.jpg)
Question if anyone knows and this is a suitable place to ask: i'm thinking of getting some limbers for my horse artillery – did horse artillery limber drivers wear busbys and dolman/pelisse as per the horse gunners? I've seen this in the italeri 1/72 plastic kit, but elsewhere have only seen limber crew in shako?
Those are fabulous and a brilliant first post
Welcome on board and I must say your troops look very impressive!
Very nice indeed!
As the others have said, great looking figures and an excellent first post. I'll wish you a belated welcome to the forum!
Impressive.
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Welcome Apoc :-h
Definitely an impressive first post :)
Moaning - good stuff there :D
A very warm welcome to the forum, Apoc. :-h
Terrific work on those figures ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil. :)
Welcome - that is a cracking start, great looking set of figures.
Do share your WM armies too!
I like the hats. :D :-bd :-bd
And welcome to the wonderful world of 10mm
Welcome from me, too. Great start to your collection. :-bd
It's been a couple of decades since I owned a Napoleonic collection but if for French HA, I think it was the Shako for Line HA and Busby for Guard HA. But no doubt one of our Nap experts will soon be along to confirm. As for other nationalities (e.g., Bavarian) - sorry.
Thank you for the warm welcome all :)
Quote from: fred. on 01 May 2021, 06:03:50 AM
Do share your WM armies too!
I won't post the full pictures here, as I don't want to detract from the Pendraken-ness of the Pendraken forums, but you can find images of my high elves here:
https://www.specialist-arms.com/forum/index.php?topic=9033.30 (https://www.specialist-arms.com/forum/index.php?topic=9033.30) (army shots about half way down)
and my nurgle plague circus here: https://warmaster-fr.niceboard.com/t3925-armee-cirque-de-la-peste (https://warmaster-fr.niceboard.com/t3925-armee-cirque-de-la-peste)
And a sample image of each: (mods feel free to remove if non PD images not the done thing here! )
(https://i.imgur.com/Flep71M.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/w2KWgmj.jpg)
– i like doing conversions, not worked out where the scope for that is in Napoleonics yet, hat swaps aside.
That's amazing. Us mods won't mind such talent!
That Nurgle army is super impressive, and very very mad! How did you come up with the circus theme? And what are the base figures for the nurglings?
The elves are very smart too - I really need to revisit my WM Elves and give them a bit of a refresh, they were my first 10mm army, and could do with some updating and just fixing of damaged paint from being played with a lot
:o :o :o :o :o :o :o
Those are a bit good. :-bd
Cheers - Mr Understatement of Wales. :)
Quote from: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 01 May 2021, 10:19:42 AM
That's amazing. Us mods won't mind such talent!
Will beiung modest ? They do look to good to use on the table
Especially the flame coloured 'raptors', in the middle.....They are truly astonishingly well painted..
Cheers - Jealous of Wales. :)
Blimey, that's brilliant!
:-bd =D> :-bd =D> :-bd
Mad but look great ;)
Absolutely awesome armies!
Welcome ! I've admired your work many times on the Tac Command site so am keen to see what you can do with the Pendraken Napoleonics.
I've not seen the Phoenix conversions before - really like the fiery glow.
A great start with the Napoleonics.
Concerning Colpacks, it looks as though this was reserved for Horse Artillery Officers and Trumpeters up until 1 Jan 1813 when it was officially
withdrawn (together with all the Hussar styling). This is from vol 2 of 'Officers & Soldiers - Artillery & the Gribeauval System'. That being said,
I understand that 'withdrawn' items could be worn for years after the official end date, particularly if no alternative had been offered due to a
shaky supply situation and if it is a popular look.
I should caveat this - I am not a Napoleonic expert by any means.
Anyway, hope this helps.
Phil
Great work, they look really nice.
Looking good!!!
Cheers,
Rob
Seems apposite.
Superb work! Welcome aboard
Thanks all. Will be working on a few non-napoleonic bits on painting desk next to get some distance while i infinity debate with myself who to collect as opponents for the french, then hope to expand this.
Quote from: fred. on 01 May 2021, 10:29:06 AM
And what are the base figures for the nurglings?
All figures are GW/conversions other than the fishing bait maggots (terrain bits etc scratchbuilt). Almost all from the GW 10mm warmaster daemon range, long OOP, i just snipped the strips of figures into individuals. Nurglings are from the same range. Main motivation being money-saving: not common figures now, so putting a huge tent etc in the middle of units fills a lot of space (core inf units are down to almost 1/3rd the model density of regular GW!) – that aside just draws on the carnival of chaos theme from Mordhiem.
Quote from: Glorfindel on 02 May 2021, 09:39:59 AM
Concerning Colpacks, it looks as though this was reserved for Horse Artillery Officers and Trumpeters up until 1 Jan 1813 when it was officially
withdrawn (together with all the Hussar styling). This is from vol 2 of 'Officers & Soldiers - Artillery & the Gribeauval System'. That being said,
I understand that 'withdrawn' items could be worn for years after the official end date, particularly if no alternative had been offered due to a
shaky supply situation and if it is a popular look.
Thanks Glorfindel, that's much more detailed than anything i'd gleaned! (and good to see you, i'd noticed a couple of other names i recognise from Taccom around on these forum too!)
That made me smile Alexander :).
Quote from: Apoc on 30 April 2021, 07:14:46 PM
Question if anyone knows and this is a suitable place to ask: i'm thinking of getting some limbers for my horse artillery – did horse artillery limber drivers wear busbys and dolman/pelisse as per the horse gunners? I've seen this in the italeri 1/72 plastic kit, but elsewhere have only seen limber crew in shako?
Hi, The limbers were drawn by soldiers from the train d'artillerie. They were not gunners and wore a distinct uniform.
(https://i.imgur.com/sKiGkNZ.jpg)
John is correct. This has jogged my memory regarding my own French limber drivers within my long defunct Napoleonic collection which were also painted in their own distinct uniform of lighter blue. This means that the limber drivers featured in the Pendraken catalogue are portrayed in the wrong uniform colour. It also appears that regardless of Line or Guard, Horse or Foot artillery, all of the French limber drivers apparently wore shakos (not a busby for the Garde Horse artillery as I thought). To add to John's information, I found the following link which has two interesting illustrations of the Horse Artillery of the Garde and limber drivers. The first is on page 6 and includes a Garde train driver in the background - in this he appears to have some "chicken gut" lacing on his breeches in a similar manner to the Garde Horse Artillery crew. On page 11, there is another illustration with both Garde train and HA crew in their respective uniforms on a limber. But this slightly puzzles me as I didn't know that French HA limbers had provision for seated crew members. Fortunately, the Pendraken 1809 range limbers don't either so this shouldn't be an issue.
http://www.planete-napoleon.com/docs/Artillerie_de_la_Garde.pdf (http://www.planete-napoleon.com/docs/Artillerie_de_la_Garde.pdf)
Excellent, thanks so much both – ill stick with the Pendraken French limber then (in a lighter blue) for my next pendraken order.
Quote from: Westmarcher on 04 May 2021, 06:34:38 PM
On page 11, there is another illustration with both Garde train and HA crew in their respective uniforms on a limber. But this slightly puzzles me as I didn't know that French HA limbers had provision for seated crew members. Fortunately, the Pendraken 1809 range limbers don't either so this shouldn't be an issue.
http://www.planete-napoleon.com/docs/Artillerie_de_la_Garde.pdf (http://www.planete-napoleon.com/docs/Artillerie_de_la_Garde.pdf)
I'm confident that picture is wrong. There is a photo of, what purports to be, a French Napoleonic horse artillery limber with provision for seated crew, in the old Osprey booklet on Napoleonic artillery. There has been quite a lot of discussion about this limber on various forums over the years and as I remember it was established that it is not Napoleonic limber and the inclusion of the photo was a mistake. The French Gribeauval system limber, and used by the Year XI pieces, was of A-frame construction with a pintle to which the trail of the piece was attached. It had no provision for either an ammunition chest, that was carried between the trail of the piece, or for seated gunners. During the Napoleonic period, French horse artillery gunners were all individually mounted and foot artillery crews marched. There was also a long two-wheeled ammunition caisson, towed by a similar A-frame limber but Pendraken don't make one of those yet.
Good stuff! :-bd
Been a while, picked up a few extra figures from Pendraken in person at Fiasco recently and have made progress on more line inf:
(https://i.imgur.com/f7cjQSw.jpg)
Cuirassiers almost done and working on hussars.
Welcome back!
Those figures look fantastic - great painting and a great a photo too, the black basing (which I assume is temporary) sets them off really well.
Those are superb! 8)
Lovely work Apoc, I'm sure they will serve well - en avant! :-bd
Very nice !
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Must not be tempted, must finish 6mm project first...
They're great, really colourful but not over done, and pop nicely :)
Wow. Those look nice. :-bd
Warmaster had been rewritten as Warmaster revolution, by the fan base. they incorporated some of the rule principles from Warmaster Ancients. eg Close combat only lasts for two bouts within a turn. So if you destroy a unit you cannot keep charging onto the next unit again and again and roll up your opponent in one turn
I've got loads of the original Warmaster elves. Don't fancy doing them for me :P :d
Lovely Napoleonic figures!