New list for 2011 :
AWI Hitlist UPDATED :
Definite :
1. American Commands - Yes more being considered
2. French Commands - Yes, dollies in progress
3. Mounted Tarleton - Yes, but some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
4. dismounted Tarleton - Yes
5. Continental Dragoons - Yes
6. Guards in Southern Campaign uniform - Yes dollies in progress
7. Guards Command in Southern Campaign uniform
8. Light Bobs in campaign dress skirmishing - Yes
9. Hessian Generals - some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
Possible :
1. Mounted Militia / Riflemen.
2. Continental Specialities (like the Perry ones )
3. British Specialities (as above).
4. Indians / Specialities - Indians;maybe some shirted ones eventually
NEW TO LIST :
1. Horses for limbers / waggons
2. civilian pack
3. Pioneers
4. Farmhands
5. Militia running away
6. Highlanders Firing Line
7. Highlanders Charging
8. Highlanders Skirmishing
Not by Clininarium ( Pester Dave / Leon):
1. Continental Limbers.
2. British Limbers.
3. Ammunition Waggons.
4. Covered Waggons.
5. Continental Dragrope teams.
6. British Dragrope teams
- British dragoons command (including trumpeter)
- American dragoons command, or to include commands in dragoonl pack
12-pdr guns (may be with crew already done by clib)
*
Horse holders and standing horses - useable for dismounted Dragoons
&
the obvious :d
Not sure about that, are there instances of dragoons dismounting to fight in field battles? My picture is of them acting mostly as cavalry.
Quote from: clibinarium on 09 February 2011, 09:29:11 PM
Not sure about that, are there instances of dragoons dismounting to fight in field battles? My picture is of them acting mostly as cavalry.
16th Queen's Light Dragoons 1777 dismounted division armed with British contact rifle.
(http://www.historicalimagebank.com/gallery2/main.php?g2_view=core.DownloadItem&g2_itemId=24961&g2_serialNumber=1)
The British dismounted Light Dragoons were armed with rifles and were a small unit of about 160 men..
The mounted LD's were also trained in skirmishing but were armed with carbines..
i was under the impression that these guys were sent out without horses to deliberately operate as a dismounted light infantry unit - so they wouldn't have horseholders on the battlefield. Some figs for the troops themselves would be useful at some point though.
My understanding is that as goat major says the dismounted troop were effectively an infantry unit. The mounted dragoons, while trained to fight on foot (and no doubt did so in the war of outposts) in battle they fought mounted. Its for that reason that I doubt that dismounted horse-holders and horses are needed.
was just a thought, but hey your the boss :)
as long as the dismounted appear at some stage i'm sure we will be happy :)
what I would be happy with is some Queens Rangers command, so my troops dont become a rabble :d
how are the horse dollies coming along ?
Quote from: Dazza on 11 February 2011, 04:40:25 PM
The British dismounted Light Dragoons were armed with rifles and were a small unit of about 160 men..
The mounted LD's were also trained in skirmishing but were armed with carbines..
Only four soldiers per troop were armed with rifles. The rest were armed with carbines.
Dismounted dragoons were trained as light infantry. And they were permanently dismounted, so no holse holders needed.
More info:
http://www.lobsterback.org/
How about some American light infantry ( early ) . I could use the continentals in caps, but firing line poses would be a great addtion. I know I sound like a broken record, but how about some ragged continentals ? Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee :'(
Votes added! (Although I think Dazza's keeping a closer eye on this than me...! :D)
Quote from: Minenfeld on 12 February 2011, 10:49:55 AM
How about some American light infantry ( early ) . I could use the continentals in caps, but firing line poses would be a great addtion. I know I sound like a broken record, but how about some ragged continentals ? Pleaseeeeeeeeeeeee :'(
It's a pitty, that most light infantry figures (like Queens Rangers and Americans in caps) are produced in marching poses only.
I think, that light bobs in roundabauts and skirmishing will fill the gap, but we would need another such pack for continental lights.
AWI Hitlist UPDATED :
Definite :
1. American Commands - Yes more being considered
2. French Commands - Yes, dollies in progress
3. Mounted Tarleton - Yes, but some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
4. dismounted Tarleton - Yes
5. Continental Dragoons - Yes
6. Guards in Southern Campaign uniform - Yes dollies in progress
7. Guards Command in Southern Campaign uniform
8. Light Bobs in campaign dress skirmishing - Yes
9. Hessian Generals - some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
Possible :
1. Mounted Militia / Riflemen.
2. Continental Specialities (like the Perry ones )
3. British Specialities (as above).
4. Indians / Specialities - Indians;maybe some shirted ones eventually
NEW TO LIST :
1. Horses for limbers / waggons
2. civilian pack
3. Pioneers
4. Farmhands
5. Militia running away
6. Highlanders Firing Line
7. Highlanders Charging
8. Highlanders Skirmishing
9. British dragoons command (including trumpeter)
10.American dragoons command, or to include commands in dragoonl pack
11.12-pdr
12.American light infantry ( early )
13.Queens Rangers Command
Not by Clininarium ( Pester Dave / Leon):
1. Continental Limbers.
2. British Limbers.
3. Ammunition Waggons.
4. Covered Waggons.
5. Continental Dragrope teams.
6. British Dragrope teams
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Quote from: Dazza on 18 March 2011, 06:29:06 PM
< monthly bump >
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Dazza, please, enough of your love life
Quote from: goat major on 18 March 2011, 07:25:02 PM
Dazza, please, enough of your love life
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Quote from: goat major on 18 March 2011, 07:25:02 PM
Dazza, please, enough of your love life
that, coming from the man who messes around with Goats, i'm speechless
=)
erhm i,m not shure how this works so dont shoot me if this is not the way to do things :-SS
what i would like to see in this range is
french with a swedish 4 pdr (also used by the hesians)
french with a 24 pdr siege gun (i like big guns :D )
and just for fun some wounded guys or guys helping wounded of al involved just to place in the ranks to spice thing up :d
Quote from: Leon on 19 February 2011, 03:22:48 AM
Votes added! (Although I think Dazza's keeping a closer eye on this than me...! :D)
Someone has to keep track of Leon's adding up ;)
Quote from: paintingdeamon on 22 March 2011, 11:45:05 AM
and just for fun some wounded guys or guys helping wounded of al involved just to place in the ranks to spice thing up :d
AWX01 Generic dead and wounded
looks like this :
(http://i347.photobucket.com/albums/p456/Andymacs/15%20-%2010mm%20AWI%20Speacial%20Packs%20-%20Pendraken/AWX1.jpg)
I'll add the others when i do the monthly update and then Mail the new additions to Clib to get his views, then see if he replies with any good news :)
Updated List :
AWI Hitlist UPDATED :
Definite :
1. American Commands - Yes more being considered
2. French Commands - Yes, dollies in progress
3. Mounted Tarleton - Yes, but some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
4. dismounted Tarleton - Yes
5. Continental Dragoons - Yes
6. Guards in Southern Campaign uniform - Yes dollies in progress
7. Guards Command in Southern Campaign uniform
8. Light Bobs in campaign dress skirmishing - Yes
9. Hessian Generals - some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
Possible :
1. Mounted Militia / Riflemen.
2. Continental Specialities (like the Perry ones )
3. British Specialities (as above).
4. Indians / Specialities - Indians;maybe some shirted ones eventually
NEW TO LIST :
1. Horses for limbers / waggons
2. civilian pack
3. Pioneers
4. Farmhands
5. Militia running away
6. Highlanders Firing Line
7. Highlanders Charging
8. Highlanders Skirmishing
9. British dragoons command (including trumpeter)
10. American dragoons command, or to include commands in dragoon pack
11. 12-pdr
12. American light infantry ( early )
13. Queens Rangers Command
14. Walking wounded and shot figures for padding out the lines
15. French 24pdr siege gun
16. Swedish 4 pdr
Not by Clininarium ( Pester Dave / Leon):
1. Continental Limbers.
2. British Limbers.
3. Ammunition Waggons.
4. Covered Waggons.
5. Continental Dragrope teams.
6. British Dragrope teams
Right after a reply from Clib, i'll bring this list up to date, so ppl can see where we stand for AWI
AWI Hitlist UPDATED :
Definite :
1. American Commands - Yes more being considered
2. French Commands - Yes, dollies in progress
3. Mounted Tarleton - Yes, but some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
4. dismounted Tarleton - Yes
5. Continental Dragoons - Yes
6. Guards in Southern Campaign uniform - Yes dollies in progress
7. Guards Command in Southern Campaign uniform
8. Light Bobs in campaign dress skirmishing - Yes
9. British dragoons command (including trumpeter)
10. American dragoons command, or to include commands in dragoon pack - Both 9 and 10 are definites, but depend on the horses being fixed up. I hope to cover most types of dragoon helmet for the americans.
11. Hessian Generals - some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
12. Queens Rangers Command - Yes
Possible :
1. Mounted Militia / Riflemen.
2. Continental Specialities (like the Perry ones )
3. British Specialities (as above).
4. Indians / Specialities - Indians;maybe some shirted ones eventually
These are bonus packs to me, i.e. they may get done after the main packs get done, but at the moment there are more essentials to add that take priority, 1-9 above for example
NEW TO LIST :
1. Horses for limbers / waggons
2. civilian pack
3. Pioneers
4. Farmhands
5. Militia running away - 2-4 are bonus packs as discussed above
6. Highlanders Firing Line - see 8
7. Highlanders Charging - see 8
8. Highlanders Skirmishing -Maybe.
9. 12-pdr - You'l have to ask the boss as I can't do guns.
10. American light infantry ( early ) - Not sure what these are exactly? Like AWA3 in firing positions?
11. Walking wounded and shot figures for padding out the lines - maybe after more essentials
12. French 24pdr siege gun - see 11
13. Swedish 4 pdr - see 11
Not by Clininarium ( Pester Dave / Leon):
1. Continental Limbers.
2. British Limbers.
3. Ammunition Waggons.
4. Covered Waggons.
5. Continental Dragrope teams.
6. British Dragrope teams
and now i'll stop with the "gimme Tarleton's" as I know exactly where we stand and a timescale as such for delivery :)
so at least Ian will be happy :p
But anything in AWI is a waste of time - AND I'M NEVER HAPPY.
IanS ;D ;D
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American light infantry ( early ) - Not sure what these are exactly? Like AWA3 in firing positions?
In a word yes, but we can mix them with a sprinkling of continentals and militia aswell.
Quote from: Dazza on 17 April 2011, 09:06:55 AM
<< bump >>
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As if this thread ever needs bumping!
You must ha whiped up dem 'orses to be 'ome.
IanS ;D
Any updates on -
3. Mounted Tarleton - Yes, but some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
4. dismounted Tarleton - Yes
5. Continental Dragoons - Yes
6. Guards in Southern Campaign uniform - Yes dollies in progress
Working on the southern campaign .... :-\
Quote from: zaapark on 27 April 2011, 10:41:03 PM
Any updates on -
3. Mounted Tarleton - Yes, but some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
4. dismounted Tarleton - Yes
5. Continental Dragoons - Yes
6. Guards in Southern Campaign uniform - Yes dollies in progress
Working on the southern campaign .... :-\
#6 may be close, watch this space :)
Looks like the next batch of AWI releases will be AUGUST, :'(
Phew - might get some of the ones I own painted by then! :D
*Positive positives precisely percived through possible pandemonium!*
Must be Friday - sorry!
its beginning to look like Leon times all AWI releases to coincide with my holidays >:(
so i'm looking forward to Tarletons at October half term ;)
Quote from: goat major on 24 June 2011, 03:35:29 PM
its beginning to look like Leon times all AWI releases to coincide with my holidays >:(
so i'm looking forward to Tarletons at October half term ;)
;D
Wonder if Leon could cast some :
(http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_MWJwuyRele0/TSzuP6mW0QI/AAAAAAAAAcQ/ZgEW7qJ1ufQ/s1600/happy+pill.jpg)
for IanS
:P ;D ;D ;D ;D :P
No I'm more :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :d :( :( :( :( :( :( :(
CLib, ? are we likely to see some Queens Rangers command any time soon ?
can work out where to place in the paint schedule :)
oh and just to cheer up IanS :d any news on them men on horses in the funny hats :P ( Tarletons to those who joined the chat late 8) )
Looking through the list, i dont think i saw any German gun crews. If i am right can we add them to the list please (asap).
AWI Hitlist UPDATED :
Definite :
1. American Commands - Yes more being considered
2. French Commands - Yes, dollies in progress
3. Mounted Tarleton - Yes, but some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
4. dismounted Tarleton - Yes
5. Continental Dragoons - Yes
6. Guards in Southern Campaign uniform - Yes dollies in progress
7. Guards Command in Southern Campaign uniform
8. Light Bobs in campaign dress skirmishing - Yes
9. British dragoons command (including trumpeter)
10. American dragoons command, or to include commands in dragoon pack - Both 9 and 10 are definites, but depend on the horses being fixed up. I hope to cover most types of dragoon helmet for the americans.
11. Hessian Generals - some work on horses needed first; applies to all mounted
12. Queens Rangers Command - Yes
Possible :
1. Mounted Militia / Riflemen.
2. Continental Specialities (like the Perry ones )
3. British Specialities (as above).
4. Indians / Specialities - Indians;maybe some shirted ones eventually
These are bonus packs to me, i.e. they may get done after the main packs get done, but at the moment there are more essentials to add that take priority, 1-9 above for example
NEW TO LIST :
1. Horses for limbers / waggons
2. civilian pack
3. Pioneers
4. Farmhands
5. Militia running away - 2-4 are bonus packs as discussed above
6. Highlanders Firing Line - see 8
7. Highlanders Charging - see 8
8. Highlanders Skirmishing -Maybe.
9. 12-pdr - You'l have to ask the boss as I can't do guns.
10. American light infantry ( early ) - Not sure what these are exactly? Like AWA3 in firing positions?
11. Walking wounded and shot figures for padding out the lines - maybe after more essentials
12. French 24pdr siege gun - see 9
13. Swedish 4 pdr - see 9
14. Hessian / Brunswick Gun crews
Not by Clininarium ( Pester Dave / Leon):
1. Continental Limbers.
2. British Limbers.
3. Ammunition Waggons.
4. Covered Waggons.
5. Continental Dragrope teams.
6. British Dragrope teams
The list seems pretty good to me. I need to check my Uniform books and see if anything important is missing. Has there been any talk about doing personalities (ex. Washington)?
Looks like we could have nearly everything by year end then.
Surely civilians/farmhands could be generic for 18th Century - same with wagons/limber horses?
Clib ?
any news on :
Queens Rangers Command
&
Mounted ( which will please IanS :d )
Hopefully not too far away, would love the QR command as that will finish off the unit.
Nothin plezes moi. :'( :'( :'( :'(
MORE TANKS - POST WAR TANKS :D
Not a great historian on the AWI but the British light Dragoon Regt's were mounted. The 16th were sent back to England and left what horses they had left to the 17th LDs who had recently deployed to the colonies. The Regimental journal mentions that quite a few 16th dragoons were left to bolster up the 17th. Im an ex 17/21L and Queens Royal Lancer (man and boy) and both Regiments (16th & 17th Lancers) now form QRL. Hope this helps, like I said im no historian .. but can remember reading it, so the horse holders would/could be a go-er.
Anycase where's the new Napoleonic British :) :D :D :-*
I think you are right but i was under the impression that as a result the dragoons were either deployed in theatre unhorsed (in which case they fought as infantry) or they had horses. If they had horses they tended to fight as cavalry. I'm not sure we ever saw them dismounting on the battlefield in classic dragoon style. I'm not reallly an expert though so would be interested in any evidence one way or the other
I would imagine that they would fight mounted in a battle situation and dismounted whilst skirmishing/patroling, they were mounted at Brandywine. hope this helps (probably not) :)
The touchstone for me is how they were used in battle. I'm less interested in the petite guerre than in field actions, and I've not come across accounts where they dismount to fight, rather they act as light cavalry (apart from those companies who were dismounted and without horses). So there'll be no dismounted duplication of mounted troops except where they had permanently dismounted contingents. There's just too many different uniform variations to do them all again on foot.
So, any news on horses and Queens Rangers Command ?
Clib, if you read this can you give us some information on the following :
1. Queens Rangers Command ?
2. American Dragoons ?
3. Tarleton Legion (Mounted and foot)
4. any other bits ur adding :)
Many thanks from all of us (except Ian:P )
Any additions likely to be soonish, in the AWI range ????
Nothing in the next few months which I'm aware of, the latest batch from Clib was the LoA stuff shown in the other thread.
Quote from: Leon on 17 March 2012, 09:48:50 PM
Nothing in the next few months which I'm aware of, the latest batch from Clib was the LoA stuff shown in the other thread.
Tarlletons and Continental Dragoons are definitely needed, if only to annoy Ian :)
Quote from: Dazza on 08 January 2012, 05:50:47 PM
1. Queens Rangers Command ?
2. American Dragoons ?
3. Tarleton Legion (Mounted and foot)
American and British limbers
Please add my vote for these.
Thanks.
Some Hessian artillery crew would be nice too !
My vote please
I'll put a vote in too!
Quote from: Minenfeld on 16 April 2012, 08:20:50 PM
Some Hessian artillery crew would be nice too !
Yes please, has my vote too.
i'll vote for anything AWI :P
I'll try and bring this a little up to date over the next few days..................
I cant wait for the highlanders,cavalry,and militia running away. ;D when do you think these minis will be available :-\
My vote to everything about AWI
Best regards
TTT
:d
I think the time has come to update this thread:
There was a long welcomed update in AWI line quite recently (I mean cavalry) but there are still many gaps to fill.
What do we need most?
- dismounted Tarletons skirmishing
- Light Bobs in campaign dress skirmishing (Including commands)
- Hessian Generals
- Hessian artillery crews
- British firing line in cut down coats and/or Saratoga dress
- British Artillery in short coats and Slouch hats
I would also like to know if any of items listed above will not be done. (To make my own conversions).
To me the Hessian's and British are most important. When I get around to doing AWI, the Saratoga campaign will be one of my first projects. What about marching militia? Do you think we need them?
Bryan
Quote from: general_btsherman on 19 March 2013, 01:47:11 PM
What about marching militia? Do you think we need them?
No. There is plenty of militia poses, standing and firing line.
Let's focus on gaps in existing line.