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Title: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Blodwin on 23 March 2021, 01:35:06 PM
Hello

Please could anyone assist me with this query?

I am just about to embark on a new project - this being the 2nd Carnatic Wars in southern India during the Seven Years War.

Whilst most of the British and French forces can be found within the Seven Years War range and the Indian forces can be compiled, with a little imagination,  from the ancient, medieval and colonial ranges  - can anyone suggest suitable proxies for the British sepoys?

Also if anyone already has a list of the suitable figures that can be used for the forces involved - please advise.

Your inputs will be greatly appreciated

Many thanks
Blodwin
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 23 March 2021, 01:48:08 PM
Can't answer your qyuestion, but it is customary to welcome newbies. So hi...
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Orcs on 23 March 2021, 02:13:30 PM
Again I am sorry but I cannot answer your query, but no doubt someone will

Welcome to the forum,
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: FierceKitty on 23 March 2021, 03:06:37 PM
This sounds silly, but check the Mahdist range - they and some sepoys may have shared a skullcap.

Welcome aboard. There can never be too many SYW nutters.
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Steve J on 23 March 2021, 03:41:15 PM
First of all, welcome on board :). Off the top of my head, I can't think of anything, outside of those ranges already suggested. If you have some pics of what you're after, that might help narrow the options down.
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Ithoriel on 23 March 2021, 04:11:51 PM
Firstly, let me add my "welcome to the forum" to the others above!

Not really a period I've had any interest in for decades but I have dim memories that British sepoys were in native smock and turban, with a distinguishing red sash, until after Plassey.  Would MUT7 Barkandaze feudal matchlockmen do, if my memory is correct?

Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: fsn on 23 March 2021, 05:38:56 PM
Hello Blodwin.

Sorry, I don't go south of the Equator ... or indeed between Malplaquet and Maida.

However, I've had a look and they're some snazzy looking troops. I'd love to see what you come up with.

Anyway, welcome to the Forum.

Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Leman on 23 March 2021, 06:53:29 PM
Sut mae Blodwin,

I go south whenever I get the opportunity, which is not often now I am in my dotage. Welcome to the forum. Sorry but I'm a SYW in Europe fan with not much truck for Robert Clive.
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 23 March 2021, 11:38:35 PM
Hello Blodwin

Welcome to the forum.

I scratched around to get an idea of what you're after, came across these (got these pics from here https://www.britishbattles.com/anglo-french-wars-in-india/) (https://www.britishbattles.com/anglo-french-wars-in-india/)):-

(https://www.britishbattles.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/16-AAA-assault-on-french-troops-580.jpg)

(https://www.britishbattles.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/01/8-AAA-alberto-salinas-the-siege-of-arcot-lasted-for-fifty-days_a-g-12097129-8880742.jpg)

Can't think of anything much that could be used without significant modification. It's their shorts and muskets that make an unlikely pairing with current figures.

Maybe the centre figure from the Indian Mutiny matchlockmen but he has no tunic (centre figure in pic):-

(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/4817/MUT7.jpg)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Ithoriel on 23 March 2021, 11:45:42 PM
GOM, I think those are the post Plassey uniforms, so it depends on what period Blodwin is looking to do.

IIRC, Clive had British uniform coats cut down for the veteran sepoys from Plassey. The two newly raised sepoy forces were in yellow and green jackets respectively. I'm dredging this up from an increasingly erratic memory. I really ought to go a-googling!
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Techno II on 24 March 2021, 07:37:30 AM
Welcome to the forum, Blodwin.  :-h

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Steve J on 24 March 2021, 07:50:54 AM
The following links have some useful images, but can't think of anything close, other than doing some conversions for the headgear and a paint job to 'remove' the leggings on the AWI range:

https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/indian-armies-art (https://www.nam.ac.uk/explore/indian-armies-art)

https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2016/02/01/india-east-india-company/ (https://weaponsandwarfare.com/2016/02/01/india-east-india-company/)
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 March 2021, 09:18:34 AM
Phil is always looking for things to do......he's never busy.  :P
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Blodwin on 24 March 2021, 09:46:13 AM
I thank everyone for their warm welcome and responses.

I will review all your suggestions and do a little further research on the uniforms of the sepoy troops around 1751 chiefly the siege of Arcot and the battle of Arni.

In the above picture of the elephant ramming the gate at the siege of Arcot, posted by Grumpyoldman, i believe is a representation of a French sepoy.

If the sepoys had bare legs, It's the thought of shaving or filing of the baggy trousers that daunts me - hence my query for an equivalent

In the mean time I will submit an introductory post, to say hello, and let you know how I came by this wonder scale and informative forum.

Thanks Blodwin
Title: Re: Seven Years War in India query
Post by: Leman on 24 March 2021, 09:51:28 AM
Spot on with that Blodwin.