I miss my never victorious DAK from Flames of War days, so with the release of the new Panzer IIIs I thought it was time to rebuild in 10mm. Starting with...
Panzer IIIF - early in the desert campaign, camo was literally mud slapped onto field grey tanks, so weathering was an issue!
(https://i.imgur.com/hxdUYzj.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Sfbtp38.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/2Lq65Vf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Z6irTTf.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/gjcuX07.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/VnF3UK4.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/P8sJYvE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/x5n0I5D.jpg)
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Sd.Kfz. 231 8 rad - love these insane vehicles, had to buy more of these.
(https://i.imgur.com/dXlB8xx.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/T8qhuEm.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/Eknt8P3.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/MAnPfqZ.jpg)
"What's over here!"
(https://i.imgur.com/gAUajiU.jpg)
"Oh hellllooo!"
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Cool idea, Lemmey, and looks good.
I'm so angry at myself for getting into North Africa in 15mm; it's too big, and 10mm is really perfect for the desert (in particular).
V/R,
Jack
The 'mud splattering' effect has worked really well, Will ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil :)
Quote from: bigjackmac on 16 February 2021, 12:43:40 AM
Cool idea, Lemmey, and looks good.
I'm so angry at myself for getting into North Africa in 15mm; it's too big, and 10mm is really perfect for the desert (in particular).
V/R,
Jack
Not sure why the
10mm is really perfect for the desert (in particular); mine are 6mm. Care to clarify?
Hammurabi,
"Not sure why the 10mm is really perfect for the desert (in particular); mine are 6mm. Care to clarify?"
Sure. 15mm is too big and 6mm is too small.* That's why 10mm is perfect.*
I've got tons of WWII stuff in 6mm, 10mm, and 15mm, and 10mm is big enough to be able to ascertain unit types at 'normal gaming distance' on a 6' x 4' table* and provides an aesthetically pleasing look with regards to tabletop engagement distances.* Seeing units at 15mm is no problem,* but the units look too close and are easy to get too bunched up,* and 6mm looks good regarding spacing/ranges on the tabletop* but I really have to lean in close to figure out what type of unit I'm looking at and which one it is. Which really sucks.*
I hope that clarifies.
V/R,
Jack
*This is all simply my opinion, which I figured was obvious since there can be no objective "truth" as to which scale is 'really perfect' for anything...
Quote from: bigjackmac on 17 February 2021, 03:35:53 AM
I hope that clarifies.
*This is all simply my opinion, which I figured was obvious since there can be no objective "truth" as to which scale is 'really perfect' for anything...
Yes. It is indeed a matter of opinion but at least I can appreciate WHY you have that opinion.
You bet.
I'm a big fan of 6mm, have quite a bit of WWII and Cold War, just have problems with seeing it on a 6' x 4' table. It works very well for me on a 3' x 3' or 4' x 4' table (more so the former) with one base=one company rules, as long as I keep the unit density low enough. I base them on 60mm x 30mm with three vehicles per base.
You can see them here:
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,19099.msg287539.html#msg287539
V/R,
Jack
Quote from: bigjackmac on 17 February 2021, 07:42:37 PM
You bet.
I'm a big fan of 6mm, have quite a bit of WWII and Cold War, just have problems with seeing it on a 6' x 4' table. It works very well for me on a 3' x 3' or 4' x 4' table (more so the former) with one base=one company rules, as long as I keep the unit density low enough. I base them on 60mm x 30mm with three vehicles per base.
You can see them here:
http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,19099.msg287539.html#msg287539
V/R,
Jack
Interesting. We have company bases of 75mm x 25mm with three tanks, support platoons on a single base of 25mm square.
http://blackwolfwargames.blogspot.com/2010/09/pmz-campaign-antwerp.html
Not as good looking as yours!
Pedantry STRIKES - Will that armoured car is a 234 - not 231 (8 Rad)
As to scale I have deserty stuff in 20mm, 15mm and 6mm - use as appropriate.
Its got 8 wheels, its an 8 rad... oh well
Early Fleetwood Mac ?
You oik, Will.....That'll be an ear-worm for the rest of the day. ;)
Cheers - Phil. :)
Dedumdedumdediddlydum... oh well
They look good to me, Hammurabi. I can't believe I've never found your blog before, some cool stuff in there, need set some time aside to get through more of it.
V/R,
Jack
Quote from: bigjackmac on 18 February 2021, 03:51:22 PM
They look good to me, Hammurabi. I can't believe I've never found your blog before, some cool stuff in there, need set some time aside to get through more of it.
V/R,
Jack
Most kind but that is the website of my principal oppo's club and it shows his GHQ tanks. He is a GOOD painter and provided the German and Soviet tanks. Other club members produced the American and British armies. I also have an American army (H&R) and fielded it in the subsequent Normandy campaign. Unfortunately our free website, which we used to record our games on, has changed to require payment and so we have lost all our historic records. [Copies available on old computers but who cares?]. He has summer clothed Eastfront troops. I am due to do the winter troops and we are supposed to start a refight of the Eastfront in June, starting with the June invasion and marking the 80th Anniversary. [Will you be back to WWII marking the event with a new campaign?]. I am a POOR or INDIFFERENT painter but hope the lessons I am learning here will improve my output. However, the pandemic has put a huge question mark over all activity.
My blog https://blogofthenautilus.wordpress.com but it has not been updated in three years. I am having problems posting to it and general problems with downloading pictures and posting them. I do have a mass of games played over the last three years, which nobody will want to read the AAR reports of anyway.
I have just got through a Zoom campaign on Punic Wars II using Command & Colors: Ancients for which I had the 6mm troops. Now I am hurriedly finishing 2mm Napoleonics for a Peninsular War campaign using Command & Colors: Napoleonics. Then I need to get back to finishing my 10mm Pendraken figures for the Korean War campaign, to be fought using Memoir 44 and PBI. After that I need to do the Eastfront winter troops in time for the November attack on Moscow. Never a dull moment!
Two Sd.Kfz. 222 - nothing says recon quite like it!
(https://i.imgur.com/qu9bLrk.jpg)
Must be something out there!
(https://i.imgur.com/qykLzCr.jpg)
Brumbrum...
(https://i.imgur.com/Z42xmw1.jpg)
Pootpoot!
(https://i.imgur.com/rPKNFit.jpg)
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 16 February 2021, 03:16:20 PM
Not sure why the 10mm is really perfect for the desert (in particular); mine are 6mm. Care to clarify?
You can't tell 6mm apart at gaming distances. You might as well go to 3mm with multi-vehicle stands.
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And as that was your first post........
A very warm welcome to the forum, Saladin. :-h
Cheers - Phil :)
Likewise, but please read and maitain the sentiment in Phil's signature :d
Quote from: ianrs54 on 17 March 2021, 08:37:34 AM
Likewise, but please read and maitain the sentiment in Phil's signature :d
You'll have to send that in clear. I'm not all that well informed on the code in of all these emoticons.
Quote from: Saladin on 17 March 2021, 01:09:48 AM
You can't tell 6mm apart at gaming distances. You might as well go to 3mm with multi-vehicle stands.
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I am a bit surprised by that as I need ocular correction, having had the good fortune to reach such an age that requires it, yet I find that I can quite readily see the difference on the game-table. We also have multi-vehicle stands.
Three more panzers completed, a J and 2 F/G/H, two older tanks in emergancy smear, The J in the proper DAK camo colours.
(https://i.imgur.com/MYnc6BX.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/5WNpN5o.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/llMRP2T.jpg)
Quite like the back view
(https://i.imgur.com/CRq2o4E.jpg)
Top view
(https://i.imgur.com/mq1QLUd.jpg)
And a ubiquitous Opel Blitz
(https://i.imgur.com/vM83KlJ.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/y1eyaVS.jpg)
What's it carrying? Maybe the Arc?
(https://i.imgur.com/5nlkM4y.jpg)
8)
Cheers - Phil. :)
Yet more - good stuff again
9 stands of DAK infantry with added MG34 and Anti-tank rifles
(https://i.imgur.com/U7pmvs8.jpg)
Top view to show anti-tank rifles.
(https://i.imgur.com/Q0sq6xB.jpg)
Battalion assault?
(https://i.imgur.com/MHqthlN.jpg)
Hmm.. FOCUS!
(https://i.imgur.com/9EXqYAW.jpg)
Back view
(https://i.imgur.com/ukLhp0W.jpg)
Mortars
(https://i.imgur.com/YxFzZGW.jpg)
They're in there somewhere!
(https://i.imgur.com/zbMST1i.jpg)
Oh, there they are!
(https://i.imgur.com/PUXgQJg.jpg)
PAK36s
(https://i.imgur.com/0u7GKFr.jpg)
Two to a base was much better, one just got lost!
(https://i.imgur.com/RRzdMPn.jpg)
Come on then Tommy!
(https://i.imgur.com/YcY6rRp.jpg)
Very nicely done. I particularly like the "door-knockers."
Nice work Will 8)
Quote from: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 03 May 2021, 02:19:06 PM
9 stands of DAK infantry with added MG34 and Anti-tank rifles
Very impressive stuff! I have never read of the use of anti-tank rifles by the Germans in the desert. Do you have any material on it?
They were in the ToE but it is questionable if they were taken. Would have been marginally effective against A13's and almost useless agaist any other tanks in theatre. Still something is better than nothing.
Very nice work, Will. :-bd
Cheers - Phil. :)
DAK nearly to a stage where I am happy to call them done (HQ/Spotters to do, plus when Panzer IIs come out, plus...)
HMG platoons
(https://i.imgur.com/bM8wvZh.jpg)
One facing the wrong way!
(https://i.imgur.com/JKy2V5R.jpg)
I sculpted the sandbags in a moment of boredom
(https://i.imgur.com/rZsHNBs.jpg)
They're not perfect, but they work from 3 feet away!
(https://i.imgur.com/z92kXpu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/3gma9dA.jpg)
The 'missing' Panzer IIIJs
(https://i.imgur.com/X6D2iqI.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/KBktTL1.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vY7zHlu.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/ZuxxPAd.jpg)
What's that over there?
(https://i.imgur.com/iMaFY0o.jpg)
Panzer IVDs
(https://i.imgur.com/xhWy2qo.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/RqgBDy0.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/NzEY8ln.jpg)
PAK38 stand
(https://i.imgur.com/U7awAtE.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1OKnsWD.jpg)
Transports
BMW sidecar combinations, another classic DAK image
(https://i.imgur.com/XK0Asjg.jpg)
Should they all have anti-tank rifles or are the MG34s??
(https://i.imgur.com/eb1UZGd.jpg)
Brum brum!
(https://i.imgur.com/BLPQit2.jpg)
Hannomags
(https://i.imgur.com/oXbrtE8.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/UjgVYCC.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/tGbeSD3.jpg)
Portze Trucks
(https://i.imgur.com/wgUTgNO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/JZow82Y.jpg)
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 03 May 2021, 11:28:17 PM
Very impressive stuff! I have never read of the use of anti-tank rifles by the Germans in the desert. Do you have any material on it?
The Osprey Battle Orders 20 on the DAK lists equipment strengths at various points in the desert, eg even in May 1942 15th Panzer Division still had 35 Boys/PzB39 and 4x 28mm sPzb41 against a TOE requirement of 39x 28mm sPzB41 for the Schutzen Regiment and 3 more for other units of the division.
In 1941 they were authorised many more, for example actual strengths on 11th November 1941:
15th Panzer Div: 74x PzB39, 4x sPzB41
21st Panzer Div: 91x PzB39
So yes, every DAK infantry, motorcycle & engineer platoon you field before June 1942 should have anti-tank rifles. They often issued captured Boys in leui of PzB39.
Thank you sir.
Rommel - if you are going to have a level 10 CiC in BKCIV, might as well have a good one!
(https://i.imgur.com/MRZjSzk.jpg)
Since I have sorted the overspill onto his hat brim... ~X( 8-}
Good grief!
(https://i.imgur.com/DFlwdLd.jpg)
Passenger
(https://i.imgur.com/S0gS7hs.jpg)
Extra radio operator
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Top view
(https://i.imgur.com/m5lVymd.jpg)
A 250 or Dorchester might be more accurate, but an excellent job !
8)
Though I'm really struggling to figure out what's happening by the track in the top piccy. :-\
Cheers - Phil. :)
Badly positioned RTO
RTO ? :-\
Radio something ? (Couldn't find that in the acronyms thread...... :( )
Cheers - Mr Thicky. :-[
US for Radio Operator, Radio Telephone Operator
Thanks, Ian ! :-bd
TTFN - Phil :)
OMG! Seriously out of date with this project!
German platoon command stands for 'other' rules sets
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Back view
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Erm...
Added figures, last seen in painting comp in February
German company commanders
(https://i.imgur.com/hvOk6m4.jpg)
Top down
(https://i.imgur.com/RtE5OPR.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/1VvnYRz.jpg)
Back views
(https://i.imgur.com/2xtFKNt.jpg)
I say again, when do you sleep?????