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Title: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: FierceKitty on 15 February 2021, 01:41:04 AM
Zulus, sah! Six 'av 'em!
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Steve J on 15 February 2021, 07:28:41 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Techno II on 15 February 2021, 08:28:28 AM
Oh dear.......I was rather slow getting that.  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 15 February 2021, 08:33:16 AM
Don't laugh now lad: get those eight mealie bags piled into a redoubt.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Chad on 15 February 2021, 10:24:49 AM
Because we're 'ere lad. Because we're 'ere.
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 15 February 2021, 12:42:01 PM
Quote from: Chad on 15 February 2021, 10:24:49 AM
Because we're 'ere lad. Because we're 'ere.

Can I go sumer else Sgt !
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: d_Guy on 15 February 2021, 07:03:23 PM
Can't you see their spear point gleaming.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: FierceKitty on 16 February 2021, 01:54:56 AM
Cannon to left of them/Cannon to right of them,/Cannon in front of them/Volley'd and went Pew! Pew!/....Into the valley of death/Rode the two.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: mollinary on 16 February 2021, 08:54:01 AM
Man of Harlech!
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 16 February 2021, 10:00:01 AM
Quote from: mollinary on 16 February 2021, 08:54:01 AM
Man of Harlech!

Writ 1880 after the Zulu war
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Leman on 16 February 2021, 10:26:20 AM
You can always rely on pedantry to kill humour  ;)
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 16 February 2021, 11:07:07 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 16 February 2021, 10:00:01 AM
Writ 1880 after the Zulu war

Maybe they were demoing the chorus prior to publication.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: jimduncanuk on 16 February 2021, 12:11:43 PM
More than a few here:

http://jim-duncan.blogspot.com/2021/02/ancientmedieval-arab-army-25mm-rebasing.html

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-UuKIVYkDfLk/YCrjAIN-jhI/AAAAAAAAKBw/Kq3RqRsdyywT3OO6KbSUYtgshWcd-hLWQCLcBGAsYHQ/s1024/P1010315.JPG)

And, there's still more to do.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 16 February 2021, 12:23:22 PM
Quote from: Leman on 16 February 2021, 10:26:20 AM
You can always rely on pedantry to kill humour  ;)

But you know I don't 'ave a sense of 'umor  :P
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: d_Guy on 16 February 2021, 01:56:41 PM
Quote from: jimduncanuk on 16 February 2021, 12:11:43 PM
More than a few here:


They bestride the world like giants!  :D

Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: d_Guy on 16 February 2021, 02:03:11 PM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 16 February 2021, 11:07:07 AM
Maybe they were demoing the chorus prior to publication.

;D ;D

The tune is MUCH older and acquired Welsh lyrics along the way  - although what they were singing G_d alone knows!

See your pendant, Ian, and raise you two pendants!  ;)
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: mollinary on 16 February 2021, 02:34:41 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 16 February 2021, 10:00:01 AM
Writ 1880 after the Zulu war

Actually, Ian, the tune was 18th century, and a number of versions of the words were in circulation in the 19th, before Thomas Oliphant's version combining both was published in 1862. However, it appears the particular words used in the film were commissioned specially for it! Does that make me pedant in chief, or merely a lowly Wikipedia reader?
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: d_Guy on 16 February 2021, 03:10:15 PM
I think you raised my raise!
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 16 February 2021, 03:41:48 PM
I'll try harder in future
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Post by: Steeleye on 17 February 2021, 07:02:42 AM
It's 'horses for courses' really.

For 'Big' battles I tend to use 10mm, for 'small' battles where the individual is more important I use 28mm.

It's simple really,no scale is 'right' or 'wrong', it's down to practicality and personnel preference.

These days, now that my eyes are shot and my hands tremble so much (coz I'm old an' had a shitty life) I prefer to use 28mm figures because I can actually see them and they're not to fiddly for my old fingers. I still have (and use loads of 10mm stuff) but I still have a lot of 10mm stuff that's unpainted and that will probably remain unpainted because I now find them too small to work with.

I don't care if this thread was supposed to be humourous or serious. There is no problem with 28mm gaming if that's what you want to do, like there's no problem with 10mm gaming.

Sure even I have a 'problem' with 12 figure battalions. But, in the 28mm games I play I use 12 figure units, but they represent 12 actual warriors/soldiers, so, no problem.

Whatever...
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Raider4 on 17 February 2021, 07:22:26 AM
Quote from: d_Guy on 16 February 2021, 02:03:11 PM
The tune is MUCH older and acquired Welsh lyrics along the way  - although what they were singing G_d alone knows!

There's also the National Anthem of the Ancient Britons (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/National_Anthem_of_the_Ancient_Britons)
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Techno II on 17 February 2021, 07:45:32 AM
If that's going to be an ear-worm, Martyn...I'm not clicking on it. ;)

Cheers - Phil.  :)
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 February 2021, 07:45:51 AM
Quote from: Steeleye on 17 February 2021, 07:02:42 AM


I don't care if this thread was supposed to be humourous or serious. There is no problem with 28mm gaming if that's what you want to do, like (sic) there's no problem with 10mm gaming.


It can become a problem when new gamers don't see the own true scale in action on account of aggressive competition, and then give up after a few years, bored and impoverished. It's like religion; an adult's choice - fine, it's your life, sir. But what you can do to kids with fear of the All-Seeing Eye or what Kali will do to you if she catches you....
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 17 February 2021, 08:19:38 AM
Quote from: Techno II on 17 February 2021, 07:45:32 AM
If that's going to be an ear-worm, Martyn...I'm not clicking on it. ;)

Cheers - Phil.  :)
It's a wiki file - no singing Phil - even you will be safe.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: d_Guy on 17 February 2021, 03:09:19 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 17 February 2021, 08:19:38 AM
It's a wiki file - no singing Phil - even you will be safe.

I don't know about that. I was compelled to sing my way through it (and dang funny lyrics they were mind).  :)
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: d_Guy on 17 February 2021, 03:30:14 PM
Quote from: Steeleye on 17 February 2021, 07:02:42 AM
These days, now that my eyes are shot and my hands tremble so much (coz I'm old an' had a shitty life) I prefer to use 28mm figures because I can actually see them and they're not to fiddly for my old fingers. I still have (and use loads of 10mm stuff) but I still have a lot of 10mm stuff that's unpainted and that will probably remain unpainted because I now find them too small to work with.

This is very relatable point to me (I'll be 74 soon). For much the same reason I have had to give up on my 10mm's (they have now joined my 25/28mm's in final storage for executor to deal with). I am making Peter Dennis paper soldiers now because I can hold them in focus with my large magnifier and can actually see what unit is what on the board.

I still use Minibits MDF for bases (the latest order arrived yesterday) so feel I am still a Pendrakenite.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Techno II on 17 February 2021, 04:15:08 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 17 February 2021, 08:19:38 AM
It's a wiki file - no singing Phil - even you will be safe.

That's alright, then. I've got an ear-worm already. (Bruce Springsteen....Glory Days.)

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 February 2021, 04:33:11 PM
I had to give myself radical therapy to get The House of the Rising Sun out of my head yesterday. Ugh.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: d_Guy on 17 February 2021, 05:04:12 PM
Sharing who's voice was singing it in your head would tell us much about you, Kitty.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 17 February 2021, 06:57:08 PM
To go off on ANOTHER tangent, lol...
I have not actually VISITED many battlefields... wish that I could!
But now, from DVDs, I am amazed at the sheer areas and distances in which combat took place! To MY mind's eye, a battle took place on a table top... with 20/25mm figures... later 'expanded' when I found 10mm, or, for armoured fighting, 6mm. The REALITY of advancing under fire, and the ranges for such fire, on a real battlefield, is astounding... and very humbling.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 February 2021, 01:22:30 AM
Quote from: d_Guy on 17 February 2021, 05:04:12 PM
Sharing whose voice was singing it in your head would tell us much about you, Kitty.

The Animals. But this just reflects that it was a listening exercise in a textbook the school uses.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: d_Guy on 18 February 2021, 04:23:08 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 18 February 2021, 01:22:30 AM
The Animals. But this just reflects that it was a listening exercise in a textbook the school uses.

The famous version but your introduction to it is interesting (and unexpected).

Woodie Guthrie, since I'm a Hillbilly.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 18 February 2021, 05:26:14 AM
The book is UK-produced. They are very reluctant to admit the existence of America as a region of note in the English-speaking world (except for the inevitable listening exercise featuring an idiot with a California accent getting lost in London). Aussies - about as rare. Indians - never. Africans - never.

I've just listened to Joan Baez singing it. Not a fan, myself, but she has a good voice for a ballad like that.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: Gwydion on 18 February 2021, 12:13:22 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 16 February 2021, 10:00:01 AM
Writ 1880 after the Zulu war
Pedantry ain't what it used to be  :)-

There are many versions of Men of Harlech - one at least written in 1830 - slightly before the Zulu War and the music was first written down in 1794. (but words and music are probably a much older folk song).)
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Post by: Gwydion on 18 February 2021, 09:53:55 PM
Doh! Missed page 2.
Sorry
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Post by: d_Guy on 19 February 2021, 03:39:19 AM
Quote from: Gwydion on 18 February 2021, 09:53:55 PM
Doh! Missed page 2.
Sorry
No worries, mate. Most of us here (and every other forum on any subject) suffer from advanced Pendanitis. I myself am martyr to it. In fact thinking I can offer absolution is one of the 427 known signs of the condition.

Like your screen name btw.
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Post by: Ithoriel on 19 February 2021, 04:02:10 AM
Quote from: d_Guy on 19 February 2021, 03:39:19 AM
Most of us here (and every other forum on any subject) suffer from advanced Pendanitis.

[pedant] Shouldn't that be pedantitis? [/pedant] :D
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: FierceKitty on 19 February 2021, 04:19:24 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 19 February 2021, 04:02:10 AM
[pedant] Shouldn't that be pedantitis? [/pedant] :D

I s'pose it depens on whether you could only get into Oxford, so got a inferor ejucayshun.
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Post by: d_Guy on 19 February 2021, 03:24:25 PM
Gentlemen - you need to hear the diphthongs and skipped consonants to fully appreciate the word.
You are speaking of the University of Mississippi at Oxford? I muhtrcoolae'd at'ah eqwvant but faeld to take a doo-gree.
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Post by: FierceKitty on 19 February 2021, 03:29:20 PM
Quote from: d_Guy on 19 February 2021, 03:24:25 PM
Gentlemen - you need to hear the diphthongs and skipped consonants to fully appreciate the word.
You are speaking of the University of Mississippi at Oxford? I muhtrcoolae'd at'ah eqwvant but faeld to take a doo-gree.


That poor, harmless infinitive. You've been boldly watching Startrek!
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: d_Guy on 19 February 2021, 04:37:59 PM
To decisively split an infinitive is to colo(u)rfully give scope to language.  :-*

not sure how to accurately diagram the above.
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: mollinary on 19 February 2021, 05:55:28 PM
But sometimes, just sometimes, the split is just too terrible. Today, on the BBC news, a reporter spoke of the need 'to totally vaccinate the population'.  Arggggh! Preserve us from these partial vaccinations!
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Post by: d_Guy on 19 February 2021, 05:59:45 PM
Yeah! Like totally!
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Post by: paulr on 19 February 2021, 10:04:14 PM
 X_X
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Post by: Last Hussar on 03 April 2021, 09:18:02 AM
I like the Drinkers version. Verse 2 starts

"Disorders that are metabolic,
Ceilings that are parabolic,
These are for the alcoholic,
Laying on the floor."
Title: Re: This is the problem with 28mm gaming.
Post by: FierceKitty on 03 April 2021, 10:07:31 AM
I don't like laying on the floor. She'll complain about bruises afterwards.