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Title: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: holdfast on 21 January 2021, 09:23:25 PM
Now that I am embarked or even disembarked on my Juno beach scenario I am thinking about calling in naval bombardment.
It seems to me that if that weight of stuff hits it certainly suppresses and no possibility of any saves. What is the thinking?
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: jimduncanuk on 21 January 2021, 09:30:13 PM
Not sure if it was Rodney or Nelson but Tiger tanks were getting turned upside down due to near misses.
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: paulr on 22 January 2021, 08:43:44 AM
Pretty sure it was Rodney, Nelson hit two mines on 18 June and was withdrawn for repairs
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 January 2021, 08:54:15 AM
Both present, as were Warspite and Texas.
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: T13A on 22 January 2021, 08:58:41 AM
Hi

Not sure any Tigers were encountered on D Day?

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: holdfast on 22 January 2021, 10:01:36 AM
Sounds unlike minor irritation and a lot more like suppression to me. I will go for that. I tried it on a bunker at the edge of the beach, the fire drifted as per the rules and it caught the forward edge of the advancing Canadians. Not unrealistic as a simulation I think.
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 22 January 2021, 11:04:58 AM
It's been a while since I played any WW2.

I found few rules that got the level of command quite right (Tips hat to Chain of Command and Crossfire, which are pretty good, but at a relatively low level).
Something that never felt quite right were corps/army level assets dropping precision fire onto frontline positions.
The "Sniper" with the Battleship, Long Tom or Bomber.

Much reading later, I understand that these units were usually providing area bombardment to area targets behind the frontlines.
Railyards, road junctions, assembly areas, logistics centres.
There may be exceptions for coastal emplacements, and I know of a few occasions when the US artillery's 155s got uncomfortably close* to the enemy and remained in action.

* Uncomfortable for both sides.
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 January 2021, 12:16:53 PM
There is one occasion with Nelson, used to engage a cyclist....
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 January 2021, 02:25:14 PM
Quote from: T13A on 22 January 2021, 08:58:41 AM
Hi

Not sure any Tigers were encountered on D Day?

Cheers Paul

True ... but if you can flip a 55 ton Tiger with a near miss just think what you would do to infantry, Hannomags and the other stuff that was there on D-Day.
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 January 2021, 02:26:03 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 22 January 2021, 12:16:53 PM
There is one occasion with Nelson, used to engage a cyclist....

A cyclist you say .... must've been an FAO ;)
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: Raider4 on 22 January 2021, 02:29:26 PM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 22 January 2021, 11:04:58 AM
. . . I understand that these units were usually providing area bombardment to area targets behind the frontlines.
Railyards, road junctions, assembly areas, logistics centres.
There may be exceptions for coastal emplacements, and I know of a few occasions when the US artillery's 155s got uncomfortably close* to the enemy and remained in action.

This is what I understand as well. Nelson or Rodney would not be pounding the beaches whilst Allied troops are coming ashore.
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 January 2021, 02:52:19 PM
IIRC, on the 7th June Rodney pounded "Hitlerjugend," who were pushing the Canadians back towards the beaches, with a bombardment that the German commander described as the most devastating ever fired in NWE, demoralising and disrupting them so severely that they temporarily suspended offensive operations.

So fire support is a possibility.
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 22 January 2021, 11:43:26 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 22 January 2021, 12:16:53 PM
There is one occasion with Nelson, used to engage a cyclist....

Serious army point mismatch.
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: paulr on 23 January 2021, 01:43:26 AM
Quote from: T13A on 22 January 2021, 08:58:41 AM
Hi

Not sure any Tigers were encountered on D Day?

Cheers Paul

You are correct, but they were later hence my comment about Nelson withdrawing
Title: Re: Naval Gunfire on D Day
Post by: Orcs on 23 January 2021, 07:56:05 AM
Quote from: paulr on 23 January 2021, 01:43:26 AM
You are correct, but they were later hence my comment about Nelson withdrawing

I didn't know that Nelson was Catholic  :)