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Title: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: Techno II on 29 November 2020, 08:30:09 AM
Have I got this right ?

Adobe are shutting down the 'free' program from the 31st Dec ?
Any recommended free alternatives ?

Cheers - Phil. :)
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: fsn on 29 November 2020, 09:12:14 AM
Flash? (Ahhh-Ahhhh, he's wanted for a miracle!)

Yes, that is ending after 31st Dec.

https://www.adobe.com/uk/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html (https://www.adobe.com/uk/products/flashplayer/end-of-life.html)
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: mmcv on 29 November 2020, 09:57:36 AM
Flash has been getting phased out for a long time. It was riddled with insecurities and mostly obsolete technology, so nothing really uses it anymore. Doubt you'll notice its passing unless you were using it specifically for something? All video etc have been natively supported by HTML for a while now so no issues there.
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: Ray Rivers on 29 November 2020, 11:31:50 AM
Thanks for the info!

Was wondering the same thing as my computer keeps asking me to delete it.
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: Techno II on 29 November 2020, 12:05:27 PM
You understood that, Ray ?

I frigging didn't. ;D ;D ;D

I'll just demand that people (Leon et al  ;)) send me jpegs. embedded in emails, so I can transfer them to the tablet.  :P

Modern technology.....PAH !!

Cheers - Phil  ;)
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 29 November 2020, 12:38:27 PM
Hi Edward Lud  :-bd
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: mmcv on 29 November 2020, 01:35:46 PM
Quote from: Techno II on 29 November 2020, 12:05:27 PM
You understood that, Ray ?

I frigging didn't. ;D ;D ;D

I'll just demand that people (Leon et al  ;)) send me jpegs. embedded in emails, so I can transfer them to the tablet.  :P

Modern technology.....PAH !!

Cheers - Phil  ;)

In ye olde days of the internet anytime someone wanted to include something like a video or fancy animation in a website they needed the person viewing it to download special software on their pc to view it, e.g. Flash Player.

However, web technology has now moved on that it no longer needs that. Your browser (e.g. Firefox) can run videos and animations without any additional special software. It's "baked in" to the language of the webpage and the browser you use to view it.

So really it's unlikely Flash has done anything for you in years. When you watch a video in YouTube for instance, it's just the website and browser playing it, no additional software required.

Would only be if you were using quite old websites that hadn't updated in many years, but they'll have to update or shut down. I can't remember the last time I encountered a site that still used Flash.
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: Ray Rivers on 29 November 2020, 02:36:12 PM
Quote from: Techno II on 29 November 2020, 12:05:27 PM
You understood that, Ray ?

Not really.  :D

But I can't ever remember an application asking to be deleted. The general gist, I believe, is to go ahead.  ;)
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: Techno II on 29 November 2020, 04:11:54 PM
Hey, ho....If I can use it to do what I want....I'll continue to use a twenty year old Ap.

It's what I use to play with piccies I send to Leon.

Cheers - Phil  ;)
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: fred. on 29 November 2020, 04:19:20 PM
I really don't think it is Phil

Adobe Flash Player (as said above) lets you play videos and some basic games on websites. It's dead old

Adobe Acrobat Reader - mainly lets you read PDF docs, but can be used for a bit of basic image editing. This is current software, but is very different to the one above.

Adobe is the company name, so by itself is a bit too generic to tell us quite what you are doing.
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: Techno II on 29 November 2020, 04:46:04 PM
Thanks, Forbes. :)

I don't 'do' games or videos......I use a very ancient app to mess around with piccies that I send to Leon...and 'whoever '.

The only game (games) I ever DO play are around 12 or more years old......But they still work.

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: mmcv on 29 November 2020, 05:00:48 PM
Adobe make a lot of other software like Photoshop. Would be surprised if they used Flash but could be a really old web based one...


What's the application you use called and I'm sure there's plenty of alternative ones. GIMP for instance is a nice replacement for Photoshop but probably more than you need.


Adobe Spark, which I think is free, is a photo editor that may be more what you need.
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: Orcs on 29 November 2020, 07:52:58 PM
Quote from: Techno II on 29 November 2020, 12:05:27 PM
You understood that, Ray ?

I frigging didn't. ;D ;D ;D

I'll just demand that people (Leon et al  ;)) send me jpegs. embedded in emails, so I can transfer them to the tablet.  :P

Modern technology.....PAH !!

Cheers - Phil  ;)

MMCV - Please can you translate your explanation into Olde English and then Techno might have a chance of understanding it  :)
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: mmcv on 29 November 2020, 09:53:01 PM
Quote from: Orcs on 29 November 2020, 07:52:58 PM
MMCV - Please can you translate your explanation into Olde English and then Techno might have a chance of understanding it  :)

Flash is like using an old knackered gee gee to pull a carriage to the market town along a poorly maintained road well known for highwaymen and bandits, when you could just hop in a car to drive round to the shop...

Which is why they're closing that road.
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: sean66 on 30 November 2020, 07:39:36 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 29 November 2020, 09:53:01 PM
Flash is like using an old knackered gee gee to pull a carriage to the market town along a poorly maintained road well known for highwaymen and bandits, when you could just hop in a car to drive round to the shop...

Which is why they're closing that road.
MMCV
remember Techno is from Wales so he wont understand what a "car" is  ;D
a better analogy for our Techno phobia friend would be a bullock pulling an old cart along the poorly maintained road. when you could hitch up a horse and go there at a trot.
happy to help bridge the gap between Generations  :D
Regards
Sean
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: Techno II on 30 November 2020, 08:20:10 AM
Quote from: mmcv on 29 November 2020, 05:00:48 PM
What's the application you use called and I'm sure there's plenty of alternative ones. GIMP for instance is a nice replacement for Photoshop but probably more than you need.

ACDSee, Matthew.....It must be SO old by now.

But it does everything I need it to do.....and stuff on there that I've never ever used.
It works....I'm familiar with it....So I'm more than happy to keep using it.  :)

I'll only have a panic when I get something I can't open without 'Flash'...Then I'll have to sort sommat out. ;)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: mmcv on 30 November 2020, 08:42:39 AM
Looks like there are newer versions of it, though they are paid. I suspect you'll be fine and Flash won't have any impact on it!
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: Techno II on 30 November 2020, 08:52:33 AM
Thanks, Matey.

Like I said, I'll only panic when I need to.  ;)

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: Alternative(s) to Adobe.
Post by: Raider4 on 30 November 2020, 10:00:23 AM
Quote from: Techno II on 30 November 2020, 08:20:10 AM
But it does everything I need it to do.....and stuff on there that I've never ever used.
It works....I'm familiar with it....So I'm more than happy to keep using it.  :)

As someone who still uses PaintShop Pro 4.12 (released Jan 1997) - and keeps a Windows 2000 virtual machine around just to use it (and a couple of other things) - I absolutely agree with this ;).