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Wider Wargaming => Painting & Modelling => Topic started by: Kiwidave on 25 August 2020, 01:41:02 PM

Title: Ink comparison
Post by: Kiwidave on 25 August 2020, 01:41:02 PM
My supply of Army Painter Light Shade ink is running low, and I'll need a replacement soon. Does anyone know how the Vallejo inks compare to the Army Painter ones? I quite like the AP inks, but would prefer to buy from Pendraken if I can, which means getting the Vallejo Game Inks.

Cheers,

KD
Title: Re: Ink comparison
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 August 2020, 02:12:47 PM
Windsor and Newton calligraphy inks are awesome!
Title: Re: Ink comparison
Post by: Kiwidave on 25 August 2020, 02:23:28 PM
I've got some of those (pyramid-shaped bottles?), but I didn't have much joy with them. They seemed to take forever to dry, and (from memory) leached into the paint as well :(
And having just checked them, the Peat Brown has set!
Title: Re: Ink comparison
Post by: Techno on 25 August 2020, 02:53:06 PM
Don't think those are the same ones, Dave.

The old 'pyramid' bottled ink used to give a bit of a 'glossy' finish.....and if you left the models in bright sunlight, the ink's colour could shift quite dramatically. :(

Cheers - Phil :)
Title: Re: Ink comparison
Post by: Kiwidave on 25 August 2020, 03:05:13 PM
Cheers Phil. I may have another go with them then. The HobbyCraft store here sells them (or used to), so not hard to get hold of.

Title: Re: Ink comparison
Post by: Techno on 25 August 2020, 04:40:57 PM
If they're the 'drawing' inks rather than the calligraphy inks, I'd just be a little bit careful, Dave.

(Unless they've changed the 'formula'.  ;))

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Ink comparison
Post by: Norm on 25 August 2020, 04:56:45 PM
Comparing the vallejo inks, I would say they are stronger than the army painter and would thin by an extra ratio of 1, so if you do water (Or medium) to ink at 2:1, I would go 3:1 (or even 4) and do a test.
Title: Re: Ink comparison
Post by: fred. on 25 August 2020, 06:39:28 PM
I've found all 3 quite different and prefer the AP washes (even though vallejo is my preferred paint brand).

As Norm says the Vallejo inks are much darker, and I find they act far more as stains rather than washes.

I have some of the W&N inks in glass bottles, but haven't used them in ages, perhaps I need to try them again.
Title: Re: Ink comparison
Post by: Kiwidave on 25 August 2020, 07:11:07 PM
Thanks for the input :)

I use the AP inks neat. I use W&N India Ink for inking metals, but heavily diluted as it makes everything black otherwise!
Title: Re: Ink comparison
Post by: jimduncanuk on 25 August 2020, 07:16:42 PM
Be wary of the Winsor & Newton inks. I have had the occasional disaster with them.

It seems they are 'drawing' inks so are expected to be applied to paper or parchment.

There may be other types of ink in their range but I am not familiar with them.

I have used them to shade acrylic painted figures. The effect is often pleasing.

I have had them pool badly on some figures.

I have had them lift after being varnished.

They have to be left a long time to fully dry which requires a level of patience which I rarely have.

Army Painter inks are designed to work with acrylic paints. I like them a lot.