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Wider Wargaming => Painting & Modelling => Topic started by: OldenBUA on 07 July 2020, 04:18:55 PM

Poll
Question: What colour would you paint elephants
Option 1: Brownish votes: 0
Option 2: Greyish votes: 15
Option 3: Sandy (WW2 tank hunter types) votes: 1
Option 4: Other (please specify) votes: 1
Title: Elephants
Post by: OldenBUA on 07 July 2020, 04:18:55 PM
From my personal observation, it has long been established that there are two camps when it comes to painting elephants. The Browns and the Greys. Even a trip to the local zoo by my fellow wargamers never decided the issue over here.

As evidenced by the recent post on his Siamese army, Mad Lemmy is obviously in the Brown camp, but well, he's mad you see?

So, which camp do you belong to?
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Ithoriel on 07 July 2020, 04:22:49 PM
Grey as a mouse, Big as a house
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 07 July 2020, 04:23:59 PM
Voted for 3, except that the elefants at Kursk were plain dark yellow  :D ;)
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Raider4 on 07 July 2020, 04:55:59 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 07 July 2020, 04:23:59 PM
Voted for 3, except that the elefants at Kursk were plain dark yellow  :D ;)

And they were still Ferdinands, weren't they?
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 July 2020, 05:21:43 PM
My roman elephants are grey, so no.
It depends where they are from.
Elephants are pink, they are just dyed by the colour of the mud they roll in to keep bugs off.

I researched Thai elephants, and used photos from Thai elephant sanctuaries, plus our honeymoon photos of Sri Lankan nellies, so I went for a brown/grey base coat, some very dark grey, with flesh highlights and toes.

Except the royal 'White Elephant which are pinker, but not albino.
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Raider4 on 07 July 2020, 05:58:04 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 07 July 2020, 05:21:43 PM
Elephants are pink . . .

Only towards the end of the evening!
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Orcs on 07 July 2020, 07:16:47 PM
I do not have any Elephant armies that I have painted. I do own some 6mm Elephants in an Indian army and a Ferdinand on my 20mm ww2.

I have a Revel acrylic  colour called Mouse Grey No 47 and It does seem to have a brownish tinge to it. Ironically given the Elephants reputed dislike of mice I would probably use this colour 
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: OldenBUA on 07 July 2020, 07:32:27 PM
OK, that's what you get for just going by memory. Fixed the ww2 reference for you all.

As to 'mad' Lemmey's extensive answer: I meant no offence by my remarks, and your rendition certainly does them justice. It's just that I remembered the (sometimes heated) discussions on the subject from all those years ago. For the record, in the DBM days, I had Ghaznavids and Seleucids, both with elephants. And also Swiss, with a single one. You know, bred from the ones abandoned during Hannibal's foray in the Alps. Well, that's my story anyway and I stick to that.
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 07 July 2020, 09:34:22 PM
Grey - darken than you imagine, with characteristic fade to pink and "freckles" on lower ears and upper trunk.

(https://animalcorner.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/asian-elephant-1.jpg)
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 07 July 2020, 09:40:51 PM
Quote from: OldenBUA on 07 July 2020, 07:32:27 PM
OK, that's what you get for just going by memory. Fixed the ww2 reference for you all.

As to 'mad' Lemmey's extensive answer: I meant no offence by my remarks, and your rendition certainly does them justice. It's just that I remembered the (sometimes heated) discussions on the subject from all those years ago. For the record, in the DBM days, I had Ghaznavids and Seleucids, both with elephants. And also Swiss, with a single one. You know, bred from the ones abandoned during Hannibal's foray in the Alps. Well, that's my story anyway and I stick to that.

There was this film, with Oliver Reed:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Brooks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hannibal_Brooks)
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 08 July 2020, 06:16:02 AM
Quote from: Raider4 on 07 July 2020, 04:55:59 PM
And they were still Ferdinands, weren't they?

Both I think  :-/
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: paulr on 08 July 2020, 06:24:06 AM
Greyish Brown ;)

Pierre the Shy and I know the Military Historian for Sir Peter Jackson's They Shall Not Grow Old he was given a t-shirt by the colourists working on the film

Brownish Green
Greenish Brown


His two most common answers when asked what colour anything should be, this was usually followed by a long discussion on the actual colour
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Raider4 on 08 July 2020, 08:00:00 AM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 07 July 2020, 09:34:22 PM
Grey - darken than you imagine, with characteristic fade to pink and "freckles" on lower ears and upper trunk.

(https://animalcorner.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/asian-elephant-1.jpg)

Wild elephants appear brown because they wallow in mud and cover themselves in dirt to protect their skin.
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Raider4 on 08 July 2020, 08:01:29 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 08 July 2020, 06:16:02 AM
Both I think  :-/

My understanding is the 40-odd survivors of Kursk were upgraded with a cupola and a bow machine gun, and were then renamed as Elefant.
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 08 July 2020, 09:36:10 AM
Depends on the species!

Asiatic elephants do this:
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 07 July 2020, 09:34:22 PM
Grey - darken than you imagine, with characteristic fade to pink and "freckles" on lower ears and upper trunk.

(https://animalcorner.org/wp-content/uploads/2015/02/asian-elephant-1.jpg)

Neither species of African elephants do!

Mammoth are orange-brown and hairy  ;)
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Ithoriel on 08 July 2020, 09:50:27 AM
Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 08 July 2020, 09:36:10 AM
Mammoth are orange-brown and hairy  ;)

Actually, mammoths had the same range of hair colours as humans do. Though I believe female mammoths had less of a tendency to die their hair blonde, aubergine or teal ;)
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 08 July 2020, 10:21:10 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 08 July 2020, 09:50:27 AM
Actually, mammoths had the same range of hair colours as humans do. Though I believe female mammoths had less of a tendency to die their hair blonde, aubergine or teal ;)

I believe there is some evidence of a worrying trend towards dip-died pink tips towards the end of the last ice-age  :O)

Of course, I completely forgot about all the non-hairy mammoth species!  I'm off to hand in my pleistocene zoologist accreditations!  :-[
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: sean66 on 08 July 2020, 01:35:32 PM
I know female elephants like to colour their toe nails red.   :o
easier to hide in cherry trees  :D ;D
regards
Sean
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Ithoriel on 08 July 2020, 01:53:30 PM
Quote from: sean66 on 08 July 2020, 01:35:32 PM
I know female elephants like to colour their toe nails red.   :o
easier to hide in cherry trees  :D ;D
regards
Sean

They also paint the soles of their feet yellow so they can hide upside down in bowls of custard. :D
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Techno on 08 July 2020, 02:11:03 PM
 X_X X_X X_X

Next 'joke' from that era will be getting his (or her) coat chewed by Nobby.

Cheers - Phil  ;)
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Ithoriel on 08 July 2020, 02:12:32 PM
Quote from: Techno on 08 July 2020, 02:11:03 PM
X_X X_X X_X

Next 'joke' from that era will be getting his (or her) coat chewed by Nobby.

Cheers - Phil  ;)

Perhaps he'd like some butter with that .... wait! .... there are footprints in it!!!

:D
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Orcs on 08 July 2020, 06:54:35 PM
Quote from: sean66 on 08 July 2020, 01:35:32 PM
I know female elephants like to colour their toe nails red.   :o
easier to hide in cherry trees  :D ;D
regards
Sean

Q - Whats the loudest noise in the jungle?

A- Girraffes eating cherries


Here Nobby - chew my coat
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: sean66 on 09 July 2020, 11:07:36 AM
Quote from: Orcs on 08 July 2020, 06:54:35 PM
Q - Whats the loudest noise in the jungle?

A- Girraffes eating cherries


Here Nobby - chew my coat
or even locals picking low hanging Fruit !!!!!
its OK Nobby I've chewed my own coat to save you the trouble
regard
Sean
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Techno on 09 July 2020, 11:54:25 AM
Gimme strength !  ;)

Stop it.... or I'll join in with all the so called 'jokes' that were around, when I was about 13. :P

Cheers - Phil ;)
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: fred. on 09 July 2020, 01:36:01 PM
Quote from: Techno on 09 July 2020, 11:54:25 AM
Stop it.... or I'll join in with all the so called 'jokes' that were around, when I was about 13. :P


Will you be providing translations from Olde English?
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 09 July 2020, 03:16:38 PM
Quote from: Techno on 09 July 2020, 11:54:25 AM
Gimme strength !  ;)

Stop it.... or I'll join in with all the so called 'jokes' that were around, when I was about 13. :P


They woukld be carved on stone tablets and writ in cuneform would they Phil ?  :d
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Techno on 09 July 2020, 04:03:34 PM
Go away ! ;)....That's the polite version.

It's reminded me FAR too much of all the appallingly cr*p 'jokes' from well over 50 years ago.

Oh...sod it ! :P

What's yellow, with black spots, and is very dangerous ?....Shark infested custard.
How do hefferumps get down from a tree......They sit on a leaf, and wait until Autumn.....

(There was one about a blackbird in a tree with a machine gun......amongst all the the others......I can remember dozens)

Now b*gger off ! ;)

Cheers - The Ancient One :-*

Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Ithoriel on 09 July 2020, 08:10:59 PM
Q: How do elephants climb trees?
A: They stand on an acorn and wait.
Q: How do they get back down?
A: They stand on a leaf and wait 'til autumn?

Q: What's black, dangerous and lives in a tree?
A: A crow with a machine gun.

Q: What's white and lives in the Borneo jungle?
A: A merangutan

Q: What sits at the bottom of the sea and shivers?
A: A nervous wreck

Q: How many people does it take to change a light bulb in a gallery of modern art?
A: Two, one to change the bulb and one to say,"My two year old could do better!"

Q: What do you do if your car runs out of petrol next to a hive?
A: Fill it with BP

Q: What has four legs and flies?
A: A dead horse

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I'm here all week :D

.... if I can stay ahead of the mob with the torches and pitchforks :)



Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Steve J on 09 July 2020, 09:02:25 PM
 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Orcs on 09 July 2020, 11:00:45 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 09 July 2020, 08:10:59 PM
Q: How do elephants climb trees?
A: They stand on an acorn and wait.
Q: How do they get back down?
A: They stand on a leaf and wait 'til autumn?

Q: What's black, dangerous and lives in a tree?
A: A crow with a machine gun.

Q: What's white and lives in the Borneo jungle?
A: A merangutan

Q: What sits at the bottom of the sea and shivers?
A: A nervous wreck

Q: How many people does it take to change a light bulb in a gallery of modern art?
A: Two, one to change the bulb and one to say,"My two year old could do better!"

Q: What do you do if your car runs out of petrol next to a hive?
A: Fill it with BP

Q: What has four legs and flies?
A: A dead horse

Thank you! Thank you! Thank you! I'm here all week :D

.... if I can stay ahead of the mob with the torches and pitchforks :)




That deserves more than a coat chewing..... Nobby Chew his underpants!  :-&



Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: sean66 on 10 July 2020, 06:50:25 AM
Quote from: Orcs on 09 July 2020, 11:00:45 PM

That deserves more than a coat chewing..... Nobby Chew his underpants!  :-&




Oooh err missus  ;)
Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Techno on 10 July 2020, 06:59:53 AM
Listerine on standby !  ;)

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: Elephants
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 10 July 2020, 07:07:35 AM
Quote from: Techno on 10 July 2020, 06:59:53 AM
Listerine on standby !  ;)


Why would you want floor polish !  :P