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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Firelocks to Maxims (1680 - 1900) => Topic started by: Last Hussar on 11 May 2020, 11:33:20 PM

Title: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Last Hussar on 11 May 2020, 11:33:20 PM
Pick one hat, one flag design, one coat colour, one trouser colour, and bloody well stick to it.

"My French are 5th coalition."
"We could do Austerlitz."
"Wrong hat."
"Borodino?"
"Wrong flag"
:'( :'(
And France? Prussia had blue first. I don't care what you say the shade is, sort yourself out.
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 May 2020, 11:57:14 PM
Yeah, you try finding 1806 French for Jena in 10mm...
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Last Hussar on 12 May 2020, 07:06:42 PM
Austrians.

Imagine trying to explain this to a non-wargaming spouse.

"I need more Austrians."
"You've got a load, can't you just say that unit is another one?
"they are German line for 5th coalition" (white coat, white trousers, helmet to 1808-09ish).

I also need some Hungarian (blue trousers, shako), and German for 6th Coalition (still all white, but wearing Shako, not helmet).

Also Grenz, who are Hungarian, but in brown, and skirmishing. And Jaeger, also skirmishing, but in grey. But different grey to the Landwehr. Who aren't skirmishing.

This is why I bought an excessive amount.
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Raider4 on 12 May 2020, 07:16:42 PM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 12 May 2020, 07:06:42 PM
This is why I bought an excessive amount.

Eh? Surely this is a physical impossibility.
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Last Hussar on 12 May 2020, 07:52:51 PM
"More" than I can "reasonably" field.
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: paulr on 13 May 2020, 07:06:10 AM
No, I'm struggling with those two words in " " :-/ ;)
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Orcs on 13 May 2020, 08:13:24 AM
Quote from: Last Hussar on 12 May 2020, 07:52:51 PM
"More" than I can "reasonably" field.

"Reasonably", please define this, as this does not compute
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 May 2020, 09:13:22 AM
"REasonably" - as much as I want ?
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 May 2020, 09:22:31 AM
If you have more figures than can fit on your table you might consider yourself to have "More" than I can "reasonably" field.

Because if you have more figures than you can fit on your table you have a problem.

However, the problem is ....

.... you need a bigger table! :D
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Orcs on 13 May 2020, 09:45:02 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 13 May 2020, 09:22:31 AM
If you have more figures than can fit on your table you might consider yourself to have "More" than I can "reasonably" field.

Because if you have more figures than you can fit on your table you have a problem.

However, the problem is ....

.... you need a bigger table! :D

Correct! :)
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: FierceKitty on 13 May 2020, 09:55:26 AM
The oddest thing in wargaming - excluding my ability to make the average roll of a D6 about 1.4 - is the way 19th-century gamers will agonise for years about a minute anachronism in shako design (a matter of months in many cases), while ancients players will cheerfully commit Zama using alleged legionaries from half a millennium in the future who look nothing like republican types.
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 May 2020, 10:15:51 AM
Ancient Comps with Sassanians fighting WTR and Aztec always amused me !
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Last Hussar on 13 May 2020, 10:46:55 AM
What Ithoriel said except Physics (time and space available ) is natures way of stopping Wargamers refighting Austerlitz at 1:20 figure scale.

I'm sure there are Napoleonic players who feel the same way about Ancient players.

Me, I use plasticard "pirates" ships to do Naval. The reason I do 10mm is I do t have to paint the detail and bugger it up.
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Orcs on 13 May 2020, 11:02:52 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 13 May 2020, 10:15:51 AM
Ancient Comps with Sassanians fighting WTR and Aztec always amused me !
Many tears ago a club I attended had a couple of players who looked down on "fantasy" gamers, not bothering to go and look at any fantasy gaes in the club.    One week they were playing DBM with New Kingdom Egyptians v Early Imperial Romans. I wandered across and said "Oh a Fantasy game"!  they were not happy  ;)
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: sultanbev on 13 May 2020, 12:16:19 PM
In our 15mm Napoleonics campaign we did allow any units from 1790 to 1815 to be fielded, thus for example you might have 1797 Venetians fighting alongside 1814 Austrians, or 1795 Puerto Rican Spanish against 1812 French. But other than that a lot of the earlier era troops couldn't form attack column, there isn't much difference.

We wouldn't however do in WW2 say a 1940 French versus 1944 Americans though. For WW2 and modern they have to be pretty much match the same quarter year.

So it does vary.
Ancients being obsessed with competition gaming in most of the rules formats, seems to have lost the plot over time scales.

As for too many figures, all those you have that can't fit on the table are simply reserves to bring on after the first wave have died.

Mark
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 May 2020, 12:48:44 PM
I choose to plead the 5th in case I incriminate myself or anyone else in the course of these proceedings. (says a man building an Undead army to use for 26th Dynasty Egyptians)
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: sultanbev on 13 May 2020, 12:50:17 PM
Undead army and 26th Dynasty Egyptians - aren't they the same thing?
Or have I watched too many films.......
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Last Hussar on 13 May 2020, 01:53:13 PM
"After the first wave have died"

You've seen me game then.
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: paulr on 13 May 2020, 07:54:58 PM
A wargaming friend had his plan on the back of his club t-shirt

Attack, attack, attack until:
a) they are all dead
b) you are all dead
Title: Re: Dear Early 19th Century Commissariats
Post by: Last Hussar on 13 May 2020, 10:14:15 PM
He obviously never played Sunjester. No need for case A.