As part of our Peninsular Napoleonics campaign we've now opened up the ADCs target, so we'll now be adding these extra command figures to the sculpting schedule.
This is where we're looking for your input into which nations and dress styles you'd like to see? We're happy to look at the whole Naps period with this and not just Peninsular theatre so if you'd like some for your 1809 Austrians or 1815 British, let us know. If there's any uniform/headgear combo's that could cover multiple nations, those would be a great addition and save on sculpting costs, for example a British chap in fore-aft bicorne could be used for Hanover and the KGL as well.
Pictures or references would be great so please add pics where possible.
L'ouverture is one I'd want if I were involved in this project.
You need a Spanish lancer and his fervent to go again at those new windmills...
The Spanish range needs generals as well as ADCs. It would be nice if we could have a pack that includes both.
Something like these would be great:
(Sorry for the poor quality of the scans but my copy of Uniformes Espanoles de la Guerra de Independencia refused to lie flat in the scanner) :-[
Here's a thread on TMP that covers some of this information: http://theminiaturespage.com/boards/msg.mv?id=498823
Pictures included on the thread.
Well, it was way back in 2012 that I did this
http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost50.htm (http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/1809blogpost50.htm)
because it was an ADC that I wanted (although I didn't want the sheepskin saddle). But I would suggest a French ADC with bicorne, fore and aft. However, if you produce a French ADC in colpack busby (without rattling his sabre), he could potentially also be used as the missing and much needed French Hussar Officer (because he wouldn't have a sheepskin saddle).
If the Spanish get generals, can the French have generals, please, so that the Magister Militum ones can be given a pension and retired?
http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/blog2015/1809blogpost179.htm (http://www.michaelscott.name/1809/blog2015/1809blogpost179.htm)
French infantry are still behind in the pose department.
Austrian Insurrection cavalry from the original Master List, please.
Guard Polish Chevaulegers from the original Master List are also needed for both up-to-Wagram 1809 and the mad-dash charge outside Madrid 1808. No lances, they became lancers later.
French Young Guard, please, also from the original Master List.
Wurst gun, please.
I can also tell you what the other French Guard artillery crew greens you have are.
Quote from: Skurvey on 05 May 2020, 10:54:14 AM
The Spanish range needs generals as well as ADCs. It would be nice if we could have a pack that includes both.
Something like these would be great:
(Sorry for the poor quality of the scans but my copy of Uniformes Espanoles de la Guerra de Independencia refused to lie flat in the scanner) :-[
These should be covered in the Spanish mounted officers.
I feel that it not so much mounted chaps in particular uniforms that are needed but suitably arrogant or indolent poses.
Perhaps some with a telescope or paper in their hands or a generic bicorned general raising both fists in fury at his subordinates or just siting down drunk. Something players can associate with.
Freicorps in their 15mm Spanish American range did (or still do) a magnificent figure for General Shafter all 300lbs of him. That's about 21 stone but lbs sounds heavier and he was American after all. He became my generic 19th Cent officer for many an army.
Am just looking for French 1812 divisional and corps commanders and found there aren't any. Found NPA26 for the Austrians, we need something like that for each army. As it is I'm now using NPA26 for both French and Austrian senior command.
I'm assuming the NSP4 Spanish mounted officers, NPP5, NPB6 are more like brgade and regiment commanders, rather than flashy assorted generals in all their finery.
One thing I would like, threat hijack I know, but related, is a wounded general marker, as when commanders are killed in our games we still need a focus point to mark brigade casualties. A diorama scuplt of a wounded general sat back leaning on his dead horse, being given water by his adjutant, or such similar idea, that will fit on a 20mm-ish round base. The figures can be generic sufficient to use for all armies, but am sure our marvellous sculptor could be inspired to produce something. I'd buy 20 just to make sure we have enough for both sides!
Mark
Waving Bicorne forwards is obligatory for any British Command ;D :D
(http://theminiaturespage.com/news/pics/2008/mar/731948b.jpg)
I would like to see an ADC or general for Grand Dutchy of Warsaw represented something in a czapka. Something that could be used for Murat, Poniatowski, or other Grand Dutchy of Warsaw field commander.
(https://i.postimg.cc/C1YdS3FD/french-marshal-murat.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/RV063xwL/polish-adc-colonel-and-trumperter-7th-lancer-reg.jpg)
(https://i.postimg.cc/sD0B7Hcd/polish-Prince-Jozef-Poniatowski-2.jpg)
Quote from: sultanbev on 05 May 2020, 08:24:05 PM
Am just looking for French 1812 divisional and corps commanders and found there aren't any. Found NPA26 for the Austrians, we need something like that for each army. As it is I'm now using NPA26 for both French and Austrian senior command.
I'm assuming the NSP4 Spanish mounted officers, NPP5, NPB6 are more like brgade and regiment commanders, rather than flashy assorted generals in all their finery.
One thing I would like, threat hijack I know, but related, is a wounded general marker, as when commanders are killed in our games we still need a focus point to mark brigade casualties. A diorama scuplt of a wounded general sat back leaning on his dead horse, being given water by his adjutant, or such similar idea, that will fit on a 20mm-ish round base. The figures can be generic sufficient to use for all armies, but am sure our marvellous sculptor could be inspired to produce something. I'd buy 20 just to make sure we have enough for both sides!
Mark
'Mounted Officers' throughout the ranges are field officers, as far as I can see. I expect, NSP4, NPP5, NPB6 to be no different. NSP4 will, I expect, paint up as a Spanish general in his service dress. But, you are right French general officers from Maréchal de l'Empire to Général de Brigade, and equivalents in other nationalities, are a gap.
Yes, I agree that a set of generic type generals for each nationality would be very nice. Tony Barton does rather nice little sets of 6 in his AB 18mm ranges and something along those lines would work, although they need not be 6 figures. The two LOA sets LOA 39 and LOA 40 are great and something similar in the Napoleonic ranges would be welcome.
I would recommend fairly bland poses, as these are more useful; there are only so many "hat wavers" that can be accommodated in an army before it looks like co-ordinated hat waving or a form of semaphore.
Quote from: DHautpol on 06 May 2020, 11:57:51 AM
I would recommend fairly bland poses, as these are more useful; there are only so many "hat wavers" that can be accommodated in an army before it looks like co-ordinated hat waving or a form of semaphore.
Definitely agreed, am not a fan of hat waving and finger pointing generals. If you have two or more figures on a command base pointing, it means there's an argument going on. :)
Mark
Just wondering how personalised you can make them in 10mm, then remembering that I have recognisable Wellington and Napoleon in my Irregular 6mm stuff.
Quote from: ianrs54 on 06 May 2020, 03:16:08 PM
Just wondering how personalised you can make them in 10mm, then remembering that I have recognisable Wellington and Napoleon in my Irregular 6mm stuff.
Come on...Let's see 'em, then.....'Bout time you showed us some of your soldiers. ;)
Cheers - Phil
I is a rubbish photographer, and me painitin is not good. :-[
Oh, Ian...... ;)
I was supposedly a profeshnial (sic) photographer =O =O =O =O when I worked for the Evil Empire in the late eighties to the early nineties.
I've said it umpteen times before....You should see the rushed 'snaps' I send to 'Sir', so he can have a gander at what I'm doing, as far as the 'green' masters are concerned.
I'll bet you're a damn sight better than you think you are.
My very good friend Nobby conned us all in saying that "He couldn't paint."
That was a load of poop !
You know that all the folk here are MORE than encouraging. :)
Cheers - Phil
I'll tink bout it, but dont have any storage apps on this box, so uploading may also be a problem..
Thanks for the feedback, much appeciated. The current thinking is a 3-figure pack of ADCs or senior officer types, for the:
- British
- French
- Prussian
- Spanish
We've had some good info for French options (including WeeWars busby chap!) and Spanish in this thread, but if you've got any pics of suitable British and Prussian ADCs/senior officers/generals, it'll save a bit of time with the sculptor. We'll make sure that they're not waving hats about as well, so we'll use telescopes, maps, etc to give them some authority!
Telescopes rather than binoculars, or is my historical database incomplete?
Quote from: FierceKitty on 09 May 2020, 03:27:25 AM
Telescopes rather than binoculars, or is my historical database incomplete?
That'd be a better idea wouldn't it! Maybe I'm not at 100% just yet...!
Fixed it now.
Nice to see you back Leon, and yes would be telescopes...
First off ... I read the title wrong as was wondering if the choices were ...
(https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/4/4a/Alexandria_Ocasio-Cortez_Official_Portrait.jpg)(https://encrypted-tbn0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn%3AANd9GcQUKmaqqA4FFbVCMqX1w4hWYhMisw8L8D-clrMau2oOxxI7aZTY&usqp=CAU)(https://www.themainewire.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Alexandria.jpg)
... but having read the thread properly, may I suggest one writing/drawing? Very important skill for an ADC.
Quote from: fsn on 09 May 2020, 08:04:41 AM
... but having read the thread properly, may I suggest one writing/drawing? Very important skill for an ADC.
Or playing the riff from 'A whole lot of Rosie'......I've
got to get my glasses sorted out. X_X :D
Cheers - Phil
Just a couple of suggestions;
Guard Engineer Officer in helmet as part of staff group ?
Napoleons headquarters Ordnance Officer.
British ADC doffing his bicorne hat / using his bicorne hat to point.
British ADC hand on hip arrogant pose.
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