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Title: A different way to spend the day
Post by: pierre the shy on 24 February 2020, 07:45:05 PM
Spent most of yesterday in the local hospital A&E ward after presenting signs of a mild stroke  :(

However after being prodded and poked and x-rayed by 4 different people, (two of whom had more letters after their name than in it) they could find nothing of note wrong with me so they literally gave me an aspirin and told me I could go home.

Got to have a foillowup MRI scan etc and I am not allowed to drive till then so Lisa is acting as my chaffeur for the moment  ;)

Guess I have been very lucky, but my moral for this story would be if you present stroke symtoms use the FAST test and if in doubt get checked out immediately. https://www.stroke.org.nz/fast       
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Steve J on 24 February 2020, 08:14:38 PM
Fingers crossed the tests all come out OK. A former colleague had all the symptoms of a heart attack after a football match and spent 5 nights in hospital undergoing various tests, but no sign of anything wrong with him. The old body does strange things at times.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: d_Guy on 24 February 2020, 08:43:22 PM
Hope all is well also, Peter. Scary, but you were so right to take quick action and not ignore. Blessings.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 February 2020, 08:51:49 PM
Hope all is okay
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: sunjester on 24 February 2020, 09:20:46 PM
Likewise hoping this is all a false alarm.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: paulr on 24 February 2020, 09:31:36 PM
What they all said

Also happy to act as chauffeur if required
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Ithoriel on 24 February 2020, 09:32:05 PM
Look after yourself Peter
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: jimduncanuk on 24 February 2020, 10:02:27 PM
Yeah, recognise the story, been there, done that, didn't get a T-shirt though.

http://jim-duncan.blogspot.com/2017/08/different-strokes-for-different-folks.html

The main thing is that you are still with us.

Take care.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 24 February 2020, 10:52:34 PM
Best wishes Pierre.
Take it easy, live long - and prosper.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Norm on 25 February 2020, 05:57:33 AM
A nasty scare, hoping all the results come back good and that you back to driving soon.

We are so used to expecting an answer for everything, I think sometimes we can get a 'turn' that is left unexplained and is not repeated - a complicated business indeed.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Techno on 25 February 2020, 06:52:47 AM
Take care, Peter.
Hope all turns out well.

Very best wishes - Phil
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: pierre the shy on 25 February 2020, 06:55:33 AM
Thanks for all your thoughts  >:<

Went to do a follow up visit today where they confirmed that don't know exactly whats happening as everything was within normal limits.  

Got the CAT scan slot in a couple of days so here's hoping for a clean bill of health.

Feeling OK today  :)
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Techno on 25 February 2020, 07:55:31 AM
Good man.  :)

Long may that continue.

At least a CT scan is all but silent..... compared to the racket from an MRI when you're inside it ! %-(

Fingers crossed for you.

All the best, again - Phil.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: pierre the shy on 25 February 2020, 08:00:55 AM
Thanks Techno....

Just noticed I have finally got to just over 1000 posts, so can wear those red tabs now  :)
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Techno on 25 February 2020, 08:04:17 AM
Heeeeey !! <:-P

Congrats, Peter.  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: paulr on 25 February 2020, 08:06:05 AM
Congratulations on the promotion <:-P
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 25 February 2020, 09:33:37 AM
I had a TIA about 6 yrs ago, they found I was diabetic...but I feel fit and still walk to most places locally - enforced atm as wrote me car off last July !  :'( :'(
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 February 2020, 12:47:03 PM
Congratulations on the promotion.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Leon on 25 February 2020, 02:49:28 PM
Hope you're OK Peter and let us know how the scans go.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: pierre the shy on 27 February 2020, 03:39:09 AM
Went and had MRI scan today....they were behind schedule so I got to watch Ellen and Tipping Point on the reception area TV since I was divested of all metal prior to going into the scanner itself.

Quite a confined space to go into for 15 minutes for the actual head scan, and not move..... 

Will be told in next day or so what they found, if anything....but they said it was more of a precautionary scan than them looking for something in particular.



Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Techno on 27 February 2020, 07:14:22 AM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 27 February 2020, 03:39:09 AM
Quite a confined space to go into for 15 minutes for the actual head scan, and not move..... 
Will be told in next day or so what they found, if anything....but they said it was more of a precautionary scan than them looking for something in particular.

I tried to go to sleep in the MRI.....But the racket those machines make stopped that plan. (I think I said when I had my scan, it was like being inside a tractor engine, which was on the point of falling apart.)

Fingers and everything else crossed for you, Peter.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: paulr on 27 February 2020, 07:36:44 AM
Hoping it is good news
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Steve J on 27 February 2020, 07:51:50 AM
I've had a few now and the noise is incedible, even with head 'phones on. The worst one was having to listen to Ken Bruce on Radio 2 whilst being scanned!!! Figners crossed that the results are all OK.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 27 February 2020, 08:28:54 AM
Quote from: Techno on 27 February 2020, 07:14:22 AM
I tried to go to sleep in the MRI.....But the racket those machines make stopped that plan.

Fingers and everything else crossed for you, Peter.

Cheers - Phil

For my scan they asked what music I wanted, Pink Floyd was not a good choice !
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Techno on 27 February 2020, 10:20:30 AM
I have to admit....I got conned with the MRI scan.

They gave me what I thought was a pair of headphones.....(Oooh... :) they're going to play me some music, while I'm in this metal tube.....Brilliant.)

No.....They were ear defenders....because of the sodding din from the machine. =)

The CT machine barely makes a low 'hum' while it's going.....and, for me, those scans were over so quickly, that you'd have never got to the end of any 'pop' song.

(Depends on which Floyd song they played you, Ian. ;))

Steve.....They must have switched the amp up to 11......  :o

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 27 February 2020, 12:07:57 PM
Twaz 'ard to tell, sumat off t'wall I tink !
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: jimduncanuk on 27 February 2020, 12:42:54 PM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 27 February 2020, 03:39:09 AM

Went and had MRI scan today....they were behind schedule so I got to watch Ellen and Tipping Point on the reception area TV since I was divested of all metal prior to going into the scanner itself.


When I was working in the Dick Vet I installed the IT side of an MRI scanner for horses.

It is an enormous electro-magnet and you had to leave all metal outside the room which was in an animal yard (think posh farm). So that was keys, mobile phone, wallet with credit cards, coins, belt and hearing aids. Still I preferred that to working in the Scintigraphy Scanning room where they inject radio-active dyes into horses. Nothing glowed but you could never be sure of what you were touching.

Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Techno on 27 February 2020, 02:50:43 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 27 February 2020, 12:07:57 PM
Twaz 'ard to tell, sumat off t'wall I tink !

Well...I'd have been able to sing along with that...(Wherever they started. ;))

Quote from: jimduncanuk on 27 February 2020, 12:42:54 PM
When I was working in the Dick Vet I installed the IT side of an MRI scanner for horses.
It is an enormous electro-magnet

Stroll on.....That must have been GINORMOUS to get anything up to (and beyond) half a ton of flesh inside. :o :o :o :o

Must have been a very posh equine vets, Jim. :o

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: jimduncanuk on 27 February 2020, 04:21:29 PM
Quote from: Techno on 27 February 2020, 02:50:43 PM

Stroll on.....That must have been GINORMOUS to get anything up to (and beyond) half a ton of flesh inside. :o :o :o :o

Must have been a very posh equine vets, Jim. :o


Not what you might think Phil.

If you google 'veterinary mri' images you will see a wide variety of scanner types none of which have the whole horse passing through a rotating scanner. Sorry to dampen your imagination although some of them are pretty big in their own right. Even bigger is the Linear Accelerator across the road in its own purpose built building with concrete walls two feet or more thick. The scanner itself is about two and a half tons and the building was constructed around it.

The 'vets' I worked for was 'The University of Edinburgh (Dick) School of Veterinary Sciences at Easter Bush who are a world leading veterinary centre. Some of their clients would pass for 'posh' but many wouldn't some coming from crofts in the north of Scotland but others who are based in places like Dubai. They'll take money from anyone but most of the big bills are covered by veterinary insurance.

But I do agree that traditional MRI scanners are pretty noisy whereas X-Ray and CT scanners are pretty quiet. Ultrasound scanners are completely silent.

Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Techno on 27 February 2020, 04:48:09 PM
Well, Jim.

That's simply just cheating if the whole beastie doesn't have to go in the 'scanner'.  ;).....Stroll on...That must take a load of 'knock out' drops, to keep them still for a good few minutes, anyway.

(I have had a Google.) :o

Yes, I can imagine that that would have to be done with some sort of 'insewerance' cover..........Or paid for by some extremely wealthy clients.

Cheers - Phil  :)
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Westmarcher on 27 February 2020, 09:04:48 PM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 27 February 2020, 03:39:09 AM
Went and had MRI scan today....

Will be told in next day or so what they found, if anything...

Fingers crossed, Pierre.

Quote from: jimduncanuk on 27 February 2020, 12:42:54 PM
... MRI scanner for horses.

It is an enormous electro-magnet and you had to leave all metal outside the room which was in an animal yard (think posh farm).

Visions of horse shoes neatly laid outside at front door and horses sauntering in to Scanner room with slippers on ....
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: jimduncanuk on 27 February 2020, 09:28:03 PM
Quote from: pierre the shy on 27 February 2020, 03:39:09 AM

Went and had MRI scan today....they were behind schedule so I got to watch Ellen and Tipping Point on the reception area TV since I was divested of all metal prior to going into the scanner itself.


Had a phone call late this afternoon from my GP Surgery.

They've been reviewing the assessment of my 2 year on CT scan in January. Initial comments had been all clear in fact quite unremarkable. I had had renal cancer and a kidney removed.

They've now spotted something, nothing to worry about they say, something to do with an artery near my heart. They want to investigate further and will see one of my GPs in a couple of weeks.

Nothing to worry about they say.

Time to finish some figures first.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: paulr on 27 February 2020, 09:46:39 PM
Fingers crossed
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Ithoriel on 27 February 2020, 11:19:54 PM
Here's to the doctors being right, Jim!
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Steve J on 28 February 2020, 06:38:41 AM
Fingers crossed Jim.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Techno on 28 February 2020, 06:45:15 AM
Same here, Jim !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: pierre the shy on 09 March 2020, 05:22:16 AM
Went to local hospital see their stroke specialist today -  She showed me that MRI was clear, with no evidence of any stoke activity  :-bd <:-P

She was very down to earth and we had a good discussion about my case.
   
I am allowed to drive again too, much to Mrs Shy's relief since she (and Paul) have been chaffeuring me around for the past two weeks.

Overall it does make me feel a bit more able to get on with things now that's out of the way.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: paulr on 09 March 2020, 06:10:45 AM
 :-bd <:-P

Not that I minded the couple of times I chauffeured you to games
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Techno on 09 March 2020, 06:55:34 AM
Excellent news, Peter. :-bd

(Good on Paul. :-bd)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Steve J on 09 March 2020, 07:10:04 AM
Fantastic news :)!
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Westmarcher on 09 March 2020, 09:20:35 AM
Good news, indeed, Pierre.  :-bd

Let's hope Jim's will turn out just as good.*

* they don't seem to be in a tearing hurry, Jim, so hopefully that's a good sign.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: jimduncanuk on 09 March 2020, 11:54:02 AM
Quote from: Westmarcher on 09 March 2020, 09:20:35 AM

Let's hope Jim's will turn out just as good.*

* they don't seem to be in a tearing hurry, Jim, so hopefully that's a good sign.


Saw GP this morning.

CT scan showed no further cancer signs.

However I seem to have a partially blocked left coronal artery.

Just waiting on someone in Cardiology to waken up and tell me what my options are.

Jim
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Ithoriel on 09 March 2020, 12:48:54 PM
Fingers crossed you don't need anything drastic Jim.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Westmarcher on 09 March 2020, 01:17:14 PM
Jim, if you don't end up taking more drugs, don't be surprised if they book you in for coronary angioplasty (fitting a stent). Don't worry if they do. I got a stent (actually two together) fitted nearly 11 years ago after suffering a series of 'unstable'* angina attacks that knocked me down to the floor on my knees. My young GP couldn't figure out what it was** and every time I suffered an attack I kept thinking, "this can't be good for my heart!"  ;D  I eventually got to see the the most experienced GP in the practice (I wanted an experienced GP from the word 'go' but was arrogantly informed they were all 'experienced') and, more or less at the same time, as I was telling him I wanted to see a heart specialist, he was telling me, "I think we better refer you to a heart specialist."

They will warn you that, like any surgical procedure it can go wrong (in which case you might get whisked away for heart by-pass surgery) but the stats are well in favour of a successful outcome. So, for the vast majority (myself included) it is a very straightforward procedure done under local anaesthetic (you can even watch your op on the telly) and they might even kick you out the hospital the same day. I've never had a problem since.

* "Unstable" angina (aka acute coronary syndrome) attacks happen at random and, unlike 'stable' angina are not necessarily related to stress or physical exercise or work. 
** to be fair to him, I had been to A&E and they said they could find nothing wrong with my heart so that set him off on another direction. It turned out that A&E's tests can detect if you have had a heart attack but not if you have had an unstable angina attack and by the time I got to A&E, I had completely recovered from the attack and it was as if nothing had happened. 
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Techno on 09 March 2020, 01:51:31 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 09 March 2020, 12:48:54 PM
Fingers crossed you don't need anything drastic Jim.

Ditto, Jim. (Great news on the 'no further signs', though'.)

Sounds like Davy's on the right track, from what I've heard from friends and acquaintances.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: jimduncanuk on 09 March 2020, 02:19:55 PM
Quote from: Westmarcher on 09 March 2020, 01:17:14 PM
Jim, if you don't end up taking more drugs, don't be surprised if they book you in for coronary angioplasty (fitting a stent). Don't worry if they do. I got a stent (actually two together) fitted nearly 11 years ago after suffering a series of 'unstable'* angina attacks that knocked me down to the floor on my knees. My young GP couldn't figure out what it was** and every time I suffered an attack I kept thinking, "this can't be good for my heart!"  ;D  I eventually got to see the the most experienced GP in the practice (I wanted an experienced GP from the word 'go' but was arrogantly informed they were all 'experienced') and, more or less at the same time, as I was telling him I wanted to see a heart specialist, he was telling me, "I think we better refer you to a heart specialist."

They will warn you that, like any surgical procedure it can go wrong (in which case you might get whisked away for heart by-pass surgery) but the stats are well in favour of a successful outcome. So, for the vast majority (myself included) it is a very straightforward procedure done under local anaesthetic (you can even watch your op on the telly) and they might even kick you out the hospital the same day. I've never had a problem since.


Thanks Westie

I had googled around a bit and I could see all these options, none of which were a surprise anyway.

After three trips in an ambulance in recent years, once with blues and twos going I don't think I am going to panic.

I'll probably just get annoyed if something disrupts my figure painting.

Jim
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: d_Guy on 09 March 2020, 02:21:23 PM
Very good news, Peter!

Hope also that things continue to get positively sorted for you too, Jim.
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: paulr on 09 March 2020, 06:15:41 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 09 March 2020, 12:48:54 PM
Fingers crossed you don't need anything drastic Jim.

Thirded
Title: Re: A different way to spend the day
Post by: Smoking gun on 12 March 2020, 06:29:10 PM
Pierre,
I had a small stroke nearly 11 years ago, with a similar scan result to yours. I've suffered no after effects and have returned to a "normal" life but I have to take blood pressure, statin and asprin tablets daily.

I hope your experience matches mine and you're back to normal life soon. Being able to drive is a great step forward.

Martin