Hello!
Just started to experiment with my new WW2 miniatures, and figuring out a colour scheme for these. And I'd love your opinion, how and what I should do with these.
For the time being, I was thinking about basing my army around Splittermuster camouflage and feldgrau trousers and helmets. With a greatcoat should I go with a more stone gray tone, or stick with the feldgrau?
These 2 guys are Wehrmacht Panzernacht truppen. With extensive googling I could not find anything about "Panzernacht" before ordering these, but apparently these are german soldiers carrying a satchel charge.
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Like those a lot.
The field grey looks spot on (as it doesn't matter if you match in a few extra shades, German uniform was rarely uniform in shades, especially later in the war)
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Quote from: Noktu on 12 January 2020, 09:53:33 PM
With a greatcoat should I go with a more stone gray tone, or stick with the feldgrau?
I'd mix the tones up a bit, on both the greatcoats and pants...
Lovely painting!
They look great ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Cheers!
Hey, what should I do with these tanks. I wanted to try out painting a camo on these. vehicles overall are not where I shine. So I was thinking at this point should I apply a soft wash and then drybrush with beige? At the moment the tanks pop out a bit too much? Or should I just admit my defeat and go factory gray.
Panzer IV and Stug III
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I use a GW Devlin Mud wash (not sure what it's called now) over the whole vehicle, then local drybrushing to lighten things a touch. I recommend you try it on one tank, before doing the others, so you get a technique that works for you.
Quote from: Steve J on 14 January 2020, 08:19:02 PM
I use a GW Devlin Mud wash (not sure what it's called now) over the whole vehicle, then local drybrushing to lighten things a touch. I recommend you try it on one tank, before doing the others, so you get a technique that works for you.
Gentle wash with AP Soft Tone mixed with water. and afterwards a drybrush with beige.
Let me know should I just repaint these and maybe experiment with doing the camouflage by just washing the camouflage patterns. Or would these suffice as plausible WW2 camouflage?
Inspiration:
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They look good. I certainly wouldn't be repainting them.
At first look I thought the sand was a bit pale for Dunkelgelb, but it is a good match for the picture. There were many patterns and shades of colours used on German Panzers. For much of the war the green and brown and the 3 tone camo was applied by the crews in the field - so obviously could vary a lot. Later in the war more camo was factory applied so patterns were more standardised, then at the very end, paint was in short supply so all sorts of stuff was seen.
The wash helps darken them up, and give a bit more contrast around the panel lines.
I thought the sand colour looked a bit harsh and pale on the first photograph.
Of course this may be related to the illumination.
The post-wash ones sat on the kitchen roll look great.
I'd suggest that's the job done.
As for the foot guy, he looks fine.
The art with the foot soldiers seems to be to put them in a nicely sanded and flocked base in a credible formation.
A bit of time and love spent at that point really pays dividends.
:-bd =D> :-bd
They look good to me, certainly too good to repaint
A trick I tried recently was to give the vehicles a very light over spray with Dunkelgelb from about 30cm, it softens up the painted camo quite nicely
I did it before washing and dry brushing
Maybe on future vehicles let a little more of the camo show through the mud on the vehicle sides, in some ways this makes them look more muddy
Adding some Balkenkreuz and vehicle numbers would also add to them (I use transfers/decals)
Hopefully some of the above suggestions are useful
Really cool 8)
Quote from: Noktu on 14 January 2020, 07:24:31 PM
Hey, what should I do with these tanks.
Give them to me ! (Don't repaint them, Atte.)
I think they look superb !! :-bd =D> :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Phil what would you do with tanks ?
Treasure them.....Or give them to Nobby on his birthday. :)
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Techno on 15 January 2020, 10:28:52 AM
Treasure them.....Or give them to Nobby on his birthday. :)
Cheers - Phil
I'm sorry Phil, I just could not get past the fact that I felt it didn't look right enough. So ended up repainting them, going to see if I'll just go with a factory gray this time.
Thanks for the tips and heads up everyone, I'll keep you up to date with the progress!
Also Paul, this time I'll try your tip with the sides!
Hey Ho ! ;)
Heck....They're your tanks, Atte. :)
I'm sure they'll look superb, once again.
Look forward to seeing them 'revamped'.
Cheers - Phil
... and yet again Poor Nobby has the cup of hope dashed from his lip. :(
Never mind.
Poor Nobby expects little and usually over-estimates.
Ah well.
All is for the best in this best of all possible worlds.
Quote from: Noktu on 15 January 2020, 02:24:12 PM
I'm sorry Phil, I just could not get past the fact that I felt it didn't look right enough. So ended up repainting them, going to see if I'll just go with a factory gray this time.!
Remember that Panzer Grey is for early war. I think end of 42 was the switch over, though it obviously took a while (though with attrition rates on the Ost Front not sure there was ever a need to repaint Panzers from Grey to Dark Yellow).
Long barrelled StuG in Grey is unlikely, long barrelled Pz IV is possible
Both the figures and the tanks look great. I certainly would not repaint them.
A light wash on the tanks perhaps if your really that bothered, and have too much time on your hands.
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Alright, I've got no idea if this could be a plausible camouflage pattern. But I had to spend some time learning how to dab a camouflage pattern with soft edges with a paintbrush, but I'm confident that it's getting better.
What do you guys think? Or shall we go for the 3rd round?
No point in asking yours truly about the camo' pattern, Atte. :-[
They look great to me, though. :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Phil, German crews were issued paint, diluted with petrol , and applied it themselve, presumably with pattern books, but no two would be identical.
Thanks Phil!
Wanted to provide you guys a better view of the Panzer IV, in a better lightning. As I seem to get really saturated pictures depending on where I am in the house.
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I did also make the yellow "pop" a bit more.
Super
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Wow, a real perfectionist!
Think they were better before. :P
Kidding!
Quote from: ianrs54 on 17 January 2020, 04:41:21 PM
Phil, German crews were issued paint, diluted with petrol , and applied it themselve, presumably with pattern books, but no two would be identical.
An interesting fact, Ian. :)
Something that I hadn't even considered, re the camo'.
Cheers - Phil
Excellent Noktu.
As Ian says, pattern was very random. Applicators could be anything mop, broom, rags, paintbrush, or occasionally sprayed on.
Just imagine , bored p*ssed off tankie, not fed or slept properly for days, given a couple of pots of paint and then asked to camouflage his tank.
They also used water if fuel was scarce.
Hilfe!
And thank you gentlemen!
I wasn't impressed with my 2nd try as the colours were rather futuristic on the panzers, so painted these panzers over for the 4th time now and ended up with this.
As this might be more realistic representation of the colours used back in the day, I just feel like I never get it quite right. Should I do this but with the bigger botches of colour used in the previous iteration shown here?
And trust me, I'll keep doing this until I get it right.
EDIT1: Should I drybrush this a bit more to make the colours a tad bit more subtle?
EDIT2: Pendraken models are über. As mentioned these have been painted over for the 4th time without any detail gone missing, and I've been rather generous with the paint.
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Well in action tanks are lugging 2 tonnes of dust and mud....
They've all looked great, as far as I'm concerned. :)
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: Techno on 22 January 2020, 05:52:12 PM
They've all looked great, as far as I'm concerned. :)
Yep!
They look good to me too.
I accept that most tanks, most of the time would be somewhat grubby but I prefer my miniature vehicles clean.
Thank you guys,
Okay, I did a heavy drybrush on these tanks to make the colours blend in a bit more. It looks pretty nice from a distance, made the tank pop up a bit more instead of making it hard to look at because of the heavy camouflage.
Think it went better or for worse? Going to clean the tracks from the drybrushing of course.
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This looks good to me. Whatever you do, the camouflage does make them look rather blobby on the table, as it is hard to make out the shape. Naturally the camo has done its job :D.
These past weeks I've been trying to nail the dunkelgelb on this scale but to no success. Therefore I decided it'd be better to just go gray with the tanks.
Here's a couple of shots from the so far finished germans. Will take new pictures tomorrow in a better lightning.
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They look great, but it looks to me like you have nailed the dunkelgelb on your guns.
WoW!
Stunning!
Wonderful !! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Seed Worser !!!
Thank you!
Quote from: mollinary on 03 February 2020, 09:10:49 PM
They look great, but it looks to me like you have nailed the dunkelgelb on your guns.
Appreciated, I'll give the panzer IV and Stug 3 a one more go. I've repainted those two while experimenting for like 11th time now, and twice I've had to remove the paint with an old toothbrush. The stug is in a shape where it will most probably end up as a stug casuality prop at this stage!
Also a few more images of the troops taken just as the sun was escaping me. It's rather hard to get these shot in the perfect circumstances, and to get the colours show right. And what I dont understand is, that how can the camera see the different shades of colour and brush strokes. Like when I've highlighted a tunic, I cant see the different layers as I've tried to blend them in. But the of course the camera picks them out!
I feel like this "fake" situation shot shows the colours in a rather natural state.
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A backshot to show the gear
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Panzergrenadiers
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MG 42
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Mortars
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Pak 40
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Lovely !! (Once again) :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Fabulous
This has been an interesting thread, and I fully identify with your pursuit of correctness. So I'll share a few thoughts.
First, there is really only one person you need to satisfy, and that is you.
Then, who can say for sure what the exact shade was, especially after being in the weather and action a bit.
And finally. a thought - gray with dunklebraun scheme was really a very, very early war camo pattern. I am sure some still wore it into the French campaign, but it was rapidly going away. Yet having said that, who is to say it wasn't used later in the war if that was all that was available.
If you are going to do a British counter force I highly recommend the Stamner books. They are excellent and include true paint color chips. Or if I can be of nay help as I am a big fan of the British, send me a private note and we'll chat.
Terry
Thank you Phil and Lemmey.
And also thank you Terry for your input. I'll definately take any advice considering the allies.
I actually received some modelling paints from my aircraft modeler friend and those are giving me a new hope. As the Army Painter paints I use for the miniatures are of inferior consistency, especially when painting vehicles. I'm still trying to nail the dunkelgelb camos as the infantry is late war, so the tanks have to be aswell.
I will keep posting updates and will not stop till I "nail" it.
I may have missed a few messages but has anybody recommended the 'Panzercolours' series (1 - 3) yet?
They're a very good start with good drawings and examples plus backgrounds on camouflage, markings etc. For the brown in the camouflage schemes I would use something with a little more red in it.
Late war vehicles ('45) often had the painting of camouflage reversed; the tanks would be in dark red/brown primer and the dunkelgelb and (by that stage) olive green would be painted over it leaving the red/brown untouched where needed.
Your infantry looks stunning! The shading on them works really well and is something you should look for in your vehicles too I'd say. Now the heavily drybrushed vehicles won't mix in too good with the figures I guess... Your first batch followed the shading of the vehicles more closely I feel. Adjusting the pattern and perhaps the colours would have done the trick I'd say.
Well; there you have it... another opinion to get you distracted. Sorry 'bout that...
Cheers,
Rob
Hey guys,
Got some more guys done, aswell as did a couple of stands with Waffen-SS guys. Also I think the stug came out pretty well, considering the camouflage.
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As usual, Atte.....Those look brilliant !! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
What Phil said!
Good stuff 8)
Fab
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Just catching up on this, looking great!
Quote from: Noktu on 25 February 2020, 12:55:01 PM
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Very impressive. What diameter bases have you used?
Thank you everyone!
Quote from: hammurabi70
Very impressive. What diameter bases have you used?
I've used 20mm for single miniature.
30mm for 3 infantry.
And Tank bases I've picked according to the track sizes. Think the stug here is on a 40mm base.
Good ones. It really sets the cats apart from the kittens, taking an intrinsically dull subject like WWII and painting it so it looks good; that takes real brushwork. Anyone can make hoplites or grenadiers look smart.
A bit like painting still-life, really. You've got to be good to make a saucepan worth looking at....
Quote from: Noktu on 25 February 2020, 10:48:33 PM
Thank you everyone!
I've used 20mm for single miniature.
30mm for 3 infantry.
And Tank bases I've picked according to the track sizes. Think the stug here is on a 40mm base.
Ah! Variable sizes; an interesting trick.
Quote from: FierceKitty on 26 February 2020, 03:16:13 AM
Good ones. It really sets the cats apart from the kittens, taking an intrinsically dull subject like WWII and painting it so it looks good; that takes real brushwork. Anyone can make hoplites or grenadiers look smart.
A bit like painting still-life, really. You've got to be good to make a saucepan worth looking at....
My concern with moving into 10mm is that it is big enough to have to paint well. Normally my beloved 6mm can be done on a more minimalist level!
Hoi - from someone about to paint a lot of Hoplites ;)
Actually I agree with you, the plainer troop types are harder to make look good and these look very good indeed
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 26 February 2020, 07:54:59 AM
My concern with moving into 10mm is that it is big enough to have to paint well. Normally my beloved 6mm can be done on a more minimalist level!
Mmm, that's why I sold off my own 6mm, after many years of faithful service. I still feel a bit of a deserter.
Quote from: paulr on 26 February 2020, 08:02:21 AM
Hoi - from someone about to paint a lot of Hoplites ;)
They do look the bee's knees and the cat's pajamas when they're painted properly.
Thank you for your kind words.
Today I decided to try a new camouflage scheme on the panzers which I think worked pretty alright for me! A camouflage that is on par with the quality I've got on the infantry pieces.
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Seriously, beautiful, for a tank.
You've done a great job on that tank and no mistake 8).
That really looks great!
What they all said ! :-bd
Cheers - Phil
Glad to hear it finally paid off!
I almost screwed up totally though, I tried to paint the balkenkreuz on the model but decided it did not turn the way I wanted it though. So Proceeded to clean it off gently with my girlfriends nail polish. Ended up rubbing the paint off to the metal surface. So I spent a good while painting those sides to match the rest of the model... PHEW!!!
SO THEREFORE, I've just placed an order for a large bunch of decals. And I'll be leaving the artistic freehand painting to the past. Let me know how you feel about the Stug IV and Panzer III paint job, is the camo job decent now?
Also, got some more germans done, aswell as a couple of more tanks. I'll be redoing the tank shots for you guys when I've applied the decals. (The PzIV and Stug3 I initially showed in this thread, will be joining the destroyed tank battalion scenery on the field!)
Note: I've added a sniper rifle scope on the sniper model.
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You're just showing off, Atte ! ;)
Those are superb !
TOP job, that man. :-bd =D> :-bd
Cheers - Phil
It's all looking good to me. :-bd
... scope ... I've trouble seeing the rifle! ..... :D
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Great stuff :-bd
Brilliant work 8)
Eww, that's terrible work Atte, what are you even playing at..
Only joking, amazing as ever! :D
:-bd :-bd
Thank you guys,
Got some more minis painted today, still waiting for my decals though!
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As per usual, Atte.....Those look wonderful ! =D> :-bd =D>
Cheers - Phil
Beautiful.
:-bd
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Very nice work (again!)
Stunning work as always 8).
Looks like the next C20th Category winner is all sorted!
Fantastic painting!
Regards
Mart
Quote from: Noktu on 01 April 2020, 04:34:22 PM
Thank you guys,
Got some more minis painted today, still waiting for my decals though!
Works of art :-bd =D>; that's what worries me in moving from 6mm to 10mm! ~X( #-o
coming along beautifully!
compliments.
Cheers,
Rob
Yet again I thank you for your nice comments gentlemen.
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 03 April 2020, 06:58:34 PM
Works of art :-bd =D>; that's what worries me in moving from 6mm to 10mm! ~X( #-o
The amount of detail that needs to be painted up? You really should not worry about that. Sure when you put in some extra time you can get some nice shots from up close with the miniatures. But just for gaming pieces I bet you can get away with quite a lot, as with these no one see half the details that are painted up when you look at them from 1 meter away.
And especially Pendraken miniatures paint up so nicely and with ease!
Some of the best painted 10mm miniatures I have ever seen Noktu ! Lovely. Can't wait to see another update ;)
Stunning figures. Hard not to be in awe!
Thank you so much guys!
Got some more german infantry done yet again.
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They're just awful. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
They look brilliant, Atte.....Spot on !...I really DO like your painting style !...Keep them coming !
Cheers - Phil
Superb
These are really good, great painting and basing.
That officer figure is an interesting pose...
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Quote from: fred. on 16 May 2020, 06:46:22 PM
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That officer figure is an interesting pose...
He didn't get the memo about never saluting in the field ;)
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Quote from: Techno on 16 May 2020, 04:31:41 PM
They're just awful. ;) ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
They would never be seen on my battle table! :D @-)
[ 'Cos I'm such a lousy painter that I cannot manage better than poor wargaming standard. ;D #-o Getting to grips with 10mm is a major challenge - but one I am enjoying. :o :-/ ]
10mm painting,
Base colour, ink wash, highlight. Use a shade lighter than other scales.
Remember the rule of cool, when it looks cool, stop.
Those look good, as ever, Noktu.
Also, I'm sure those officers are just stopping their hats blowing off :D
Thank you guys for the cheerful comments!
However, is the splittertarnmuster camouflage on the wehrmacht troops too bright? And I have no idea did they still use the brighter version in WW2, or was everything issued already the darker Fallschirmjäger splittertarnmuster version.
Versio 1 Reichswehr - Wehrmacht
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Versio 2 , Luftwaffe
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Just managed to add all the decals. Now waiting for them to dry to brush on the varnish.
Also, the tiger 1 in the middle. Is the panzegrau tiger that I had to repaint due to the public outrage.
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Beautiful
As impressive as ever. Any particular reason for putting them on bases? The use of bases for tanks seems currently a topic for review.
10mm is the smallest scale that there is a debate if the vehicles can free stand.
Pros - It looks SO much better.
- your AFVs can go places where a wider base would prevent them - bridges, narrow streets Or - on a landing craft. You don't have to make your streets as wide as a four lane motorway to accommodate a jeep. I hate to see tanks parked on rooftops or replaced by "counters".
Cons - unless you base infantry on thinner plastic- they tower beside the vehicles.
- rules: In some rules you measure to the base. Its a hit. Freestanding you could argue the hit was against a track guard etc. The rule needs to be sorted prior to the dice roll.
There is no correct answer here. Do you write with your left or right hand? Do what works for you and your game ! Noktu has gone with bases. He paints very well and will inspire many with his eye candy. +1 Noktu!
Thank you fellas,
I suppose the reasoning for basing these was that my friends who'll end up playing with them, will not smear their sticky finger grease all over the models.
Awesome work, Atte !.....Wonderful painting. :-bd
You let other people actually touch these !! :o :o :o
Cheers - Phil :)
Thank you Phil!
Anyone else notice but the balkenkreuzes in the Heavy Panzer decal set seem to be misaligned...?
Clearly visible on Tiger 2 here.
Hadn't noticed until you pointed it out :)
It is very slightly out of kilter but to be honest it's still so much better than I could do freehand that I wouldn't care.
.... and those tanks still look brilliant!
Very nice work Atte! A great looking collecting of heavy metal!
Can't say I'd noticed any issues with the crosses - but it is a fairly small photo.
Quote from: Noktu on 23 May 2020, 09:22:27 AM
Thank you fellas,
I suppose the reasoning for basing these was that my friends who'll end up playing with them, will not smear their sticky finger grease all over the models.
The British Government have issued a memo that wargamers must wash hands after every move, and dice, vehicles and figures sprayed with disinfectant.
Indeed they recommend that we invest in long range guns and fight our battles at the correct social distance.
So get your orders in for trenches, bunkers and Big Bertha style 16" railway guns. (anything over 2 meters tabletop range.)
Is Graham joking, or isn't he.
And beware f you get a phone call from me, I'm on a govt contract for track and trace :d
Quote from: Sunray on 23 May 2020, 09:20:35 AM
10mm is the smallest scale that there is a debate if the vehicles can free stand.
Pros - It looks SO much better.
- your AFVs can go places where a wider base would prevent them - bridges, narrow streets Or - on a landing craft. You don't have to make your streets as wide as a four lane motorway to accommodate a jeep. I hate to see tanks parked on rooftops or replaced by "counters".
Cons - unless you base infantry on thinner plastic- they tower beside the vehicles.
- rules: In some rules you measure to the base. Its a hit. Freestanding you could argue the hit was against a track guard etc. The rule needs to be sorted prior to the dice roll.
There is no correct answer here. Do you write with your left or right hand? Do what works for you and your game ! Noktu has gone with bases. He paints very well and will inspire many with his eye candy. +1 Noktu!
I should have thought it a debate for 6mm but perhaps not with 3mm. Many thanks for a very helpful summary.
It is always helpful to get the perspective of others when considering such matters; as with cutting string the right length, there may be more than one use to consider.
Quote from: Noktu on 23 May 2020, 09:22:27 AM
Thank you fellas,
I suppose the reasoning for basing these was that my friends who'll end up playing with them, will not smear their sticky finger grease all over the models.
A very good point, well worth thinking about providing they do use the base and not the model. I have not had free standing tanks since my Airfix teenage years.
I recently ran through this exact dilemma. Your troops and vehicles look fantastic!
V/R,
Jack
Got some amerikaners finished today, let me know what you think!
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Also hope you guys are doing okay, it has been 30 degrees plus celsius here for the past week. The snowmen are melting.
Fanstastic!!! 8). Been hot here as well, but only for a few days. Still trying to sleep in 30 degree heat somehwat challenging...
Quote from: Noktu on 27 June 2020, 02:51:57 PM
Got some amerikaners finished today, let me know what you think!
Looking great, as ever; what colour have you used on the vehicles?
Awesome, Atte........I hate you.... ;D ;D ;)
Those look superb.
Cheers - Phil
Wot they said!
Fantastic, great, awesome, superb .... and I hate you! :D
Seriously, an excellent job on those. I am well jealous!
I think they look brilliant.
Beautiful!
🐵
Superb!
Really, really nice! :'(
Cheers Paul
Good work, very crisp!
But that painting station is far too clean...
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Beautiful work!
Thank you gentlemen, I'm honoured that you feel those turned out alright!
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 27 June 2020, 03:27:16 PM
Looking great, as ever; what colour have you used on the vehicles?
I've used Vallejo Model Color - 70.889 USA Olive Drab. Blended with Army Painter - Matt White for a couple of times to bring lighter layers.
Quote from: fred. on 27 June 2020, 06:15:54 PM
But that painting station is far too clean...
Illuminati Confirmed? (:
Alright ? :o :o :o
Bloomin' heck, Atte......Those are a bit better than 'alright'.
I'm very jealous of your skill.....and I know that that there are a load of our friends, on the forum who feel just the same.
You keep them coming !....Love seeing your work. :-bd
Cheers - Phil :)
Quote from: Noktu on 28 June 2020, 07:34:33 AM
Thank you gentlemen, I'm honoured that you feel those turned out alright!
I've used Vallejo Model Color - 70.889 USA Olive Drab. Blended with Army Painter - Matt White for a couple of times to bring lighter layers.
Illuminati Confirmed? (:
Does that mean doing a couple of washes with a slight thinning of white or am I misunderstanding something?
Quote from: Techno on 28 June 2020, 11:36:38 AM
Alright ? :o :o :o
Bloomin' heck, Atte......Those are a bit better than 'alright'.
I'm very jealous of your skill.....and I know that that there are a load of our friends, on the forum who feel just the same.
You keep them coming !....Love seeing your work. :-bd
Cheers - Phil :)
Thank you Phil! It certainly feels very motivating and encouraging when you guys take the time to come over and drop your thoughts!
Quote from: hammurabi70 on 28 June 2020, 11:00:24 PM
Does that mean doing a couple of washes with a slight thinning of white or am I misunderstanding something?
First I've basepainted the models with Olive Drab
Then 1/8 white - olive drab mix ( going over the whole model except the very recesses )
Wash the whole model with Army Painter - Soft Tone
1/8 white - olive drab highlight ( going over almost everything except recesses )
2/8 white - olive drab highlight again, bringing the colour on the more surfaced areas ( slightly damped down with water to make it blend more )
3/8 white - olive drab highlight, on the more pronounced areas. ( also made slightly more runny with water )
Army Painter - Strong Tone on all the recessed areas to make them pop out even more
I have to admit I dont remember the exact white to olive drab ratio. Next time I paint a sherman, I'll take pictures of all the phases and drop them here.
Quote from: Noktu on 29 June 2020, 02:17:23 AM
First I've basepainted the models with Olive Drab
Then 1/8 white - olive drab mix ( going over the whole model except the very recesses )
Wash the whole model with Army Painter - Soft Tone
1/8 white - olive drab highlight ( going over almost everything except recesses )
2/8 white - olive drab highlight again, bringing the colour on the more surfaced areas ( slightly damped down with water to make it blend more )
3/8 white - olive drab highlight, on the more pronounced areas. ( also made slightly more runny with water )
Army Painter - Strong Tone on all the recessed areas to make them pop out even more
I have to admit I dont remember the exact white to olive drab ratio. Next time I paint a sherman, I'll take pictures of all the phases and drop them here.
Very helpful. I am working out now what to do with my US Korean War tanks.
Wanted to show you guys some of my WW2 buildings from battlescale.
Do the "red" tiles look okay? Or should I improve them somehow. Does it look too bland?
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That looks superb. No worries about the tiles - they are fine.
I really like the small piles of rubble as well. Where do you
get these if you don't mind me asking ?
Phil
That all looks great, the red tiles provide a nice contrast to the darker roof on the other buildings, lovely work.
That looks fantastic, really nice!
Thank you gentlemen! Glad you feel like the tiles turned out alright.
Quote from: Glorfindel on 17 September 2020, 03:01:57 PM
Where do you get these if you don't mind me asking ?
I've ordered them all from https://battlescale.com/
Cracking job on those Noktu and the Battlescale stuff is really rather nice 8).
Very impressed by those
They look awesome, I'm jealous!
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:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Red tiles work well and are a nice contrast to the greys :)