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Title: Napolionic Russian
Post by: YORSTONS on 03 November 2019, 09:48:16 PM
Good evening,
Are there any plans to re model and increase the Russian range.
Thanks
Steve.
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: Leon on 03 November 2019, 10:59:43 PM
No plans at the moment I'm afraid, next up on the Naps schedule will be the Peninsular ranges.
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: MooseDontBounce on 04 November 2019, 12:27:47 AM
Leon:
Very happy for the Penninsular range.  Been wanting to do that theater plus I can use those British for some of my Prussian reserve regiments.  Add my second vote my Russians too.

Dale
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: Not Drowning, Waving on 04 November 2019, 10:04:53 PM
Another vote for Nap Russians. Should be easy to do as there are very few uniform differences with infantry, basic variables are plume/no plume greatcoat/no greatcoat.

Leon are you sure you couldn't sneak in 4 sculpts in between some of those other projects? Happy to supply the artwork if that assists.
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: Leon on 04 November 2019, 10:08:01 PM
Quote from: LetsPartyWithCossacks on 04 November 2019, 10:04:53 PM
Another vote for Nap Russians. Should be easy to do as there are very few uniform differences with infantry, basic variables are plume/no plume greatcoat/no greatcoat.

Leon are you sure you couldn't sneak in 4 sculpts in between some of those other projects? Happy to supply the artwork if that assists.

I don't think 4 sculpts would be quite enough!  If we're going to do Russians then we'd want to do them properly and devote a few months of sculpting to it.  Once the Peninsular is done, it seems that Russians will be the next thing to look at!
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: Zippee on 11 November 2019, 08:28:31 AM
Not forgetting that asking for "Russians" without further definition is misleading.

Not everyone wants vulgar post 1811 scuttle wearing infantry and razorcut-plumeless cavalry. Some of us prefer the more splendorously equipped gentlemen with bush plumes and a full head of hair on the helmet. Still others will want some kind of Potemkin nonsense.

So when asking for Russians be clear what you you're asking for

That siad they're not huge ranges - Jager, Grenadier, Musketeer; Hussar, Uhlan, Dragoon, Cuirassier; Horse & Foot artillery; Cossack & Opalchenie
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: Not Drowning, Waving on 11 November 2019, 09:16:31 AM
If by scuttle wearing infantry you mean the kiewer, then there is considerable doubt as to whether it was ever worn by Russian infantry 1812-14.  The shako was certainly worn at that time and was worn earlier still, thus having the advantage of spanning a wide time period  (in 10mm the shako variations of earlier shakos are not that obvious).  As everyone in other scales does them in Kiewer, the dreaded thing should probably be added.  Oh and infantry in formal headdress, formal headdress in oilskin, forage cap, and bear headed, each with greatcoat variation.

You are of course right that the Grenadier plumes do change significantly.  If the shako is kept, then the change is only the plume size.  A similar issue for Dragoons and Cuirassier with their caterpillar combs being reduced to brushes.  Pavlov Grenadiers are essential.

Zippee I think the Guard Cossacks would be a must - you can use them for Ukranian Cossacks (possibly even the St Petersberg Opolchenie cavalry which had fur caps with cords) and more spectacularly for the later Prussian Guard Cossacks.  Hussars would need front rank lancers and second rank sabres. 

Ideally Opolochenie would be foot with pike, musket and some with spear head fastened to muskets without barrels.  There are however more than 10 regional variations, but perhaps 4 might do initially.  Oh and horse.  Cossacks should span the three basic types Don, Bug and Ural, and ideally some irregular as well. 

A good range of staff is essential too. A seated portly Kutuzov would be nice.  Command should be both in shako and in bicorne (worn late, especially for Opolochenie command, when retired officers were pressed into service).

Lastly Bashkir, Tartar and Kalmuk.  Spear and bow.

Leon is that really more than 4 already?
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: mollinary on 11 November 2019, 11:39:22 AM
Quote from: LetsPartyWithCossacks on 11 November 2019, 09:16:31 AM

1812-14.  Oh and infantry in formal headdress, formal headdress in oilskin, forage cap, and bear headed, each with greatcoat variation.

I too would love to see 'bear headed' Russians, even if they could be described as a bit stereotypical!    ;) ;)
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: FierceKitty on 11 November 2019, 12:23:06 PM
And Muscovite militia pikemen. And a few extras from Tolstoy.
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: mollinary on 11 November 2019, 12:40:39 PM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 11 November 2019, 12:23:06 PM
And Muscovite militia pikemen. And a few extras from Tolstoy.

Aren't those the same as Opolchenie?
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: FierceKitty on 11 November 2019, 01:08:17 PM
Dunno. Russkies aren't my strong suit.
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 11 November 2019, 02:56:10 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 11 November 2019, 12:40:39 PM
Aren't those the same as Opolchenie?

Yep, armed with pikes....
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: Not Drowning, Waving on 11 November 2019, 09:02:43 PM
Russian Bear headed!  Almost a Freudian slit, to quote the great John Cleese...
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: dimmy on 18 December 2019, 10:31:13 PM
Another vote too for Nap Russians. The new range could be funded as it has been done for the "Not-Kickstarter" 1809 range.
And it could be use for 1812-1813 campaign.
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: sultanbev on 19 December 2019, 05:02:26 PM
"I don't think 4 sculpts would be quite enough!  "

Indeed, on another thread somewhere I worked out you'd need three different musketeer figures alone (variations in hats and packs) just for the 1809 era.

But yes, another vote for Russians!
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: Leon on 07 January 2020, 10:26:14 PM
Votes added!

8)
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: Sandyfalkirk on 25 February 2020, 10:08:30 PM
Add my vote too. I'd order a couple hundred quid of peninsular stuff and Russians too.
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: monkeynut on 17 May 2020, 05:21:30 PM
Would definitely pledge towards a new kickstarter for Russians if and when you get time to do it along with all your other requests.Dont know how you keep up with it all Leon and still manage to provide a great service while juggling so many ideas/requests. Keep up the great work.

🐵
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 May 2020, 06:34:24 PM
That's why he has clones...
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: WeeWars on 17 May 2020, 06:48:04 PM
Quote from: Not Drowning, Waving on 11 November 2019, 09:16:31 AM
A good range of staff is essential too. A seated portly Kutuzov would be nice.

And an essential good range of French staff, too. Napoleon seated with his foot on a drum, obviously, if we're talking 1812. If not, Pendraken Napoleon is looking very lonely all on his own on his horse without any staff. Not even his chief of staff.
Title: Re: Napolionic Russian
Post by: mollinary on 17 May 2020, 06:49:06 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 17 May 2020, 06:34:24 PM
That's why he has clones...

Yes, I had heard he wasn't very well recently.