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Title: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 16 September 2019, 02:32:51 PM
I'm nearing the end of painting my recent Pendraken ACW purchase.
Casualties, Wagons and a few atrillery odds and sods to go.

Looking closely at the wagons there's something I can't recognise - here's my plea for advice.

The canvas covers of the wagons have a couple of rectangular bits beneath the awning at one end.
I'm not sure whether these are leftovers form casting channels, or whether they represent part of the frame that supports the cover.
Please advise.

If the former, I'll machine them off, of they're a deliberate part of the model, any advice on colour?
I've gone for a rather fabulous powder blue body and oxblood wheels for the rest of the wagon.

And thanks in advance to anybody who comes to my assistance.
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: kipt on 16 September 2019, 04:22:21 PM
I think the tabs on the cover (bottom aren't they?) are just to set them into the wagon body. I have a couple of wagons in my FPW Test picture but they don't show details. As I recall there were also casting sprees on the cover at one end.
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: Leon on 16 September 2019, 11:26:41 PM
If it's the large canvas casting then those will just be the casting sprues and can be removed.  The canvas block should sit snugly into the wagon piece once those are off.

(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/1163/ACW62.jpg)
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 17 September 2019, 08:24:16 AM
Many thanks, I'll fire up the Dremel.


And congratulations on an excellent range.
Great range of poses, all useful.
Nice crisp detail, good painting.
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: Westmarcher on 17 September 2019, 08:32:50 AM
Quote from: Leon on 16 September 2019, 11:26:41 PM
If it's the large canvas casting then those will just be the casting sprues and can be removed.  The canvas block should sit snugly into the wagon piece once those are off.

(https://pendraken.co.uk/_img/products/1163/ACW62.jpg)

I'm wondering. Shouldn't there be a foot board? (if these horses suddenly stop, the driver will slide off). Just saying.
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 September 2019, 08:40:31 AM
Safety belts?
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 17 September 2019, 11:00:39 AM
Not til the 1960's, and not compulsory til 1985
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: Westmarcher on 17 September 2019, 11:32:01 AM
I probably shouldn't worry about his safety. He's probably sitting comfortably on a spike.
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 September 2019, 11:50:39 AM
Paint Your Wagon Lee Marvin!
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 17 September 2019, 12:37:10 PM
Quote from: Westmarcher on 17 September 2019, 11:32:01 AM
I probably shouldn't worry about his safety. He's probably sitting comfortably on a spike.

I'm reminded of Edmund Blackadder's staunchly puritanical relatives..

https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zuyf2 (https://www.dailymotion.com/video/x1zuyf2)
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: Leon on 17 September 2019, 01:23:44 PM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 17 September 2019, 08:24:16 AM
And congratulations on an excellent range.
Great range of poses, all useful.
Nice crisp detail, good painting.

Glad you like them!
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 25 September 2019, 09:17:28 PM
Quote from: Leon on 17 September 2019, 01:23:44 PM
Glad you like them!

Certainly do, my first venture into 10mm for some 2 decades.
I've based up enough grey and blue chaps for some very flexible Rebels and Patriots encounters.
Not to mention casualties and baggage.

Sound forth the trumpet that will never call retreat!
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: Leon on 25 September 2019, 09:34:31 PM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 25 September 2019, 09:17:28 PM
Certainly do, my first venture into 10mm for some 2 decades.
I've based up enough grey and blue chaps for some very flexible Rebels and Patriots encounters.
Not to mention casualties and baggage.

Excellent!
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: MartinKnight1333 on 03 October 2019, 05:59:27 PM
if you sold wagons without canopy ive have a dozen, as I card the tilt and use a fine linen for the feel?

See if its posssible :)
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: Westmarcher on 03 October 2019, 07:26:16 PM
Aren't the canopies separate?
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 04 October 2019, 07:49:48 AM
Yes, and the interior of the wagon bed is detailed.
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: Westmarcher on 15 December 2021, 03:30:20 PM
QuoteI'm wondering. Shouldn't there be a foot board? (if these horses suddenly stop, the driver will slide off). Just saying.
QuoteI probably shouldn't worry about his safety. He's probably sitting comfortably on a spike.

Anyhoo! As has been highlighted elsewhere by Yours truly, it transpires that ACW Supply Wagon drivers tended to drive the wagon seated on the nearest left side horse to the wagon (in the same way as artillery limber drivers). Here's a link for those interested (a couple of other figure manufacturers have cottoned on to this method of driving these wagons also):-

ACW Supply Wagons (http://www.artilleryreserve.org/army%20waggons%202.pdf)

I seem to recall that Leon is perfectly happy to supply spare limber drivers, if desired.  :)
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 15 December 2021, 08:58:01 PM
I tried to download the pdf but it came back to tell me that it was a security risk because of an unsecured connection.
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: Westmarcher on 15 December 2021, 10:36:03 PM
That's unfortunate. I found it in the artilleryreserve.org website under 'History of Artillery' > 'History of the Army Wagon.' The article states that each wagon had one driver mounted on one of the mules. There's not too much to see; 3 illustrations, one of which shows the driver on one of the mules and another which is a photograph of a Union supply train passing through Petersburg. Here's a couple of alternatives ...

A link to the Perry twins' product to give you an idea:-
Perry Miniatures ACW Suppl Wagon (https://www.perry-miniatures.com/product/acw11-six-mule-wagon-standing-with-driver/)

Also, here's a photo of a Wagon train near Richmond (zoom in to the various wagons to see the drivers):-

https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-the-civil-war-wagon-train-of-military-telegraph-corps-near-richmond-50035338.html (https://www.alamy.com/stock-photo-the-civil-war-wagon-train-of-military-telegraph-corps-near-richmond-50035338.html)


Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 16 December 2021, 09:11:52 PM
Thanks
Title: Re: Pendraken model help - ACW 62 Wagons
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 16 December 2021, 11:45:43 PM
Fascinating to see Studebaker supplying logistics trucks as early as the ACW.