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Title: Carnival Row
Post by: SV52 on 01 September 2019, 01:53:21 PM
Long time no post :(

The above mentioned is a new start series on Amazon Prime.  Fantasy, all the various races are human sized; has flying fairies, human-faced sheep-people (like WH beastmen), centaurs, two human factions, the Pact and the Burg Republic, one the ememy of the other. Set in a late Victorian type timeline with a steampunk element.  All the usual bonking and gore.  Orlando Bloom, Jed Harris and other well known faces. Very well made with good CGI.

I've watched the first fouir or so.  I make no comment on whether it's good bad or indifferent, watch it and make up your own mind.

It is however ideal fodder for wargame armies!  ;)
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: d_Guy on 01 September 2019, 04:51:47 PM
Looks interesting, just put on our watchlist. Thanks.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: petercooman on 02 September 2019, 12:15:12 PM
Thanks for the heads up. Will check out later!!!
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Leman on 02 September 2019, 12:15:41 PM
Particularly good scrap in episode 3 featuring airships. Ian should watch it to examine the unpleasantness of an unjustified dislike of foreigners.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: flamingpig0 on 02 September 2019, 12:55:52 PM
Quote from: Leman on 02 September 2019, 12:15:41 PM
Particularly good scrap in episode 3 featuring airships. Ian should watch it to examine the unpleasantness of an unjustified dislike of foreigners.

Isn't he one of the characters?
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: petercooman on 02 September 2019, 09:24:52 PM
On to episode 2, great show!

Thanks for filling us in  :D
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Ithoriel on 02 September 2019, 10:03:24 PM
Went to Prime to investigate - first thing up was an advert for Carnival Row, so not hard to find!

30 mins into Episode 2 and loving it so far.

Cheers!
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Leman on 03 September 2019, 08:24:48 AM
It gets very dark.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: petercooman on 03 September 2019, 11:50:42 AM
Episode 4 so far and pretty great. Don't mind the darkness. Cthulu like vibe!
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: SV52 on 03 September 2019, 02:01:47 PM
 :D I gather Episode 1 of Series 2 is already in production.

Hear that first episode of George R.R. Martin's frst 'Game of Thrones' spin-off series is in cut for HBO review.  Seems that there are 4 othr series in the queue.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Raider4 on 03 September 2019, 02:15:04 PM
Quote from: SV52 on 03 September 2019, 02:01:47 PM

Hear that first episode of George R.R. Martin's frst 'Game of Thrones' spin-off series is in cut for HBO review.  Seems that there are 4 othr series in the queue.

I'd normally say "stop dicking about with distractions and finish the Winds of Winter book!", but I've realised that I don't actually care anymore.

And if you like Victorian-set fantasy then I'd recommend Penny Dreadful.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 03 September 2019, 03:12:45 PM
Quote from: flamingpig0 on 02 September 2019, 12:55:52 PM
Isn't he one of the characters?

Na - no acting ability at all, along with no sense of humour !  :d :d
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: SV52 on 03 September 2019, 05:17:35 PM
Yup Penny Dreadful a good 'un.  Some outstanding performances there.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: petercooman on 03 September 2019, 05:51:25 PM
Quote from: SV52 on 03 September 2019, 05:17:35 PM
Yup Penny Dreadful a good 'un.  Some outstanding performances there.

That one has been on my list for a while as well!
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Leman on 03 September 2019, 09:15:07 PM
Never heard of it, please expand.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Raider4 on 03 September 2019, 09:23:40 PM
It's got Eva Green in it.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: petercooman on 03 September 2019, 09:32:22 PM
Carnival row done, was great!
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: FierceKitty on 03 September 2019, 10:45:50 PM
Quote from: Raider4 on 03 September 2019, 09:23:40 PM
It's got Eva Green in it.

And Timothy Dalton.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: SV52 on 03 September 2019, 11:16:47 PM
Quote from: Leman on 03 September 2019, 09:15:07 PM
Never heard of it, please expand.

Penny Dreadful is Victorian Gothic and is a mash up of Dracula, The Picture of Dorian Grey, Frankenstein with a leavening of supernatural devilry.

Supposed to be a TV sequel; Penny Dreadful - City of Angels in the offing.

The phrase 'penny dreadfu'l. 'The expression is American and came into use in the late 19th century as a perjorative term for the numerous cheap crime magazines that purveyed poorly written and hackneyed storylines.'
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: FierceKitty on 04 September 2019, 05:51:59 AM
And owing a great deal to Victorian cityscape paintings by Atkinson Grimshaw.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 19 September 2019, 01:09:15 PM
Just heard on one of the Podcasts I listen to that there is an official, FREE, Carnival Row RPG.  Written by the Carnival Row creator, Travis Beacham, it uses the "Cypher System by Monte Cook Games and the Cypher System Rulebook is required to play".

https://www.enworld.org/threads/free-carnival-row-rpg-from-nerdist-monte-cook-games.667255/ (https://www.enworld.org/threads/free-carnival-row-rpg-from-nerdist-monte-cook-games.667255/)
https://nerdist.com/article/carnival-row-rpg-download-free/ (https://nerdist.com/article/carnival-row-rpg-download-free/)

Direct link to the rules: https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Carnival-Row-RPG.pdf (https://nerdist.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/09/Carnival-Row-RPG.pdf)

I've not seen the show yet, so only skimmed through the PDF to avoid potential spoilers, but it's very pretty with atmospheric art and a map of the world. 

Apart from some character generation stuff and the sample characters at the end it seems mostly rules-free background information of the world and the city of Burgue.

Cheers!

Meirion
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: The Baron on 07 March 2023, 02:15:27 AM
Am I wrong to look at the new sculpts, yet to be released, for Russo Japanese war and think.....hmmmmmmm... :-\  Burgue and Pact for Carnival Row?  ;D
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Steve J on 07 March 2023, 06:37:26 AM
I must admit it has piqued my imagination as to some future projects based upon the whole look of both sides, which would be pretty easy to do from existing ranges. Once FWCII is released, I might revisit this...
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Big Insect on 07 March 2023, 10:28:45 AM
I'm part-way through series 2 - shame the plot is almost the same as series 1, surely they could have come up with something s little more inventive, however I am also liking the Steam-Punk Victoriana approach.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: The Baron on 07 March 2023, 12:13:15 PM
Quote from: Big Insect on 07 March 2023, 10:28:45 AMI'm part-way through series 2 - shame the plot is almost the same as series 1, surely they could have come up with something s little more inventive, however I am also liking the Steam-Punk Victoriana approach.
They were pretty hamstrung for the production by infighting and then filming was impacted by Covid restrictions. The original intention was for the series to run for a long time so I think they had to wrap it all up pretty quickly :(
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Steve J on 07 March 2023, 03:06:27 PM
I think Amazon chose not to do any more series, so everything has had to be 'rushed' to bring it to a satisfactory conclusion (hopefully). Shadow & Bone on Netflix is in a similar vein, but with magic rather than fey creatures.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Big Insect on 07 March 2023, 05:38:15 PM
Just finished episode 6 series 2 ... there must be another series planned. I will say no more.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Steve J on 07 March 2023, 07:14:32 PM
There are four more episodes to come Mark IIRC. I think we are to watch episode 6 tonight, if we haven't already done so :-\ .
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: The Baron on 07 March 2023, 09:28:43 PM
Quote from: Big Insect on 07 March 2023, 05:38:15 PMJust finished episode 6 series 2 ... there must be another series planned. I will say no more.
I'm afraid it is 2 seasons and done, I was gutted when it was announced :(
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Raider4 on 08 March 2023, 09:00:36 AM

QuoteAm I wrong to look at the new sculpts, yet to be released, for Russo Japanese war and think.....hmmmmmmm... :-\  Burgue and Pact for Carnival Row?  ;D
It's been a while since I've seen it - didn't finish the first series - but the Burque are surely just WW1 British in cap and greatcoat?
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: The Baron on 09 March 2023, 01:53:59 PM
QuoteIt's been a while since I've seen it - didn't finish the first series - but the Burque are surely just WW1 British in cap and greatcoat?

Sort of...both sides seem closer to various Russian style uniforms in the show but the original concept art for the costumes is a bit different.

Pact Soldier
(https://i.postimg.cc/DZCKJtXm/simon-gocal-evil-pact-soldiers-of-true-evil-final-solo.jpg)

Burgue Soldier
(https://i.postimg.cc/J0GCbPNx/simon-gocal-basic-burgue-soldiah-solo.jpg)

Burgue Palace Guard
(https://i.postimg.cc/gjQF484W/simon-gocal-army-guard-palace-final-final-with-rifle.jpg)
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: Raider4 on 09 March 2023, 03:30:20 PM
QuoteSort of...both sides seem closer to various Russian style uniforms in the show but the original concept art for the costumes is a bit different.
I've since read that Serbians make good stand-ins for The Pact troops.
Title: Re: Carnival Row
Post by: The Baron on 09 March 2023, 04:06:50 PM
 :-\  I'd forgotten about the ones in caps :)

The issue I have is that I have a big bag of the old/current Pendraken figures for the Russo Japanese war that could be easily used but the new range is coming out and they are much nicer!! Plus the Serbians are an old range and wouldn't match.

I could swerve the issue altogether and go for 28mm...where I already have a steampunk airship and a few suitable figures..........or both :D