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Non-Wargaming Discussion => Chat & News => Topic started by: Kiwidave on 31 August 2019, 06:02:22 PM

Poll
Question: Should I restore this desk to some semblance of its former glory, or just leave it be?
Option 1: Leave it - it's going to get trashed anyway votes: 3
Option 2: Paint it matt black to make it look cool votes: 1
Option 3: Restore it to the best of your ability votes: 9
Title: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Kiwidave on 31 August 2019, 06:02:22 PM
Question for the hive mind:

I have been given this desk for my painting, modelling etc. I'm in two (three?) minds whether I should attempt to smarten it up.

(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/135257379/Desk%20exterior.jpg)

(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/135257382/Desk%20interior.jpg)


It's not the most well-made desk, and quite clearly past it's prime. I can't open the central door without forcing it as I don't have a key.

If I do tart it up, I'm leaning towards stripping out the internal drawers, and painting the exterior matt/satin black so that it matches the rather nice computer desk I've bought from Ikea. I'd do the interior on off-white, or possibly light grey.

Restoring it to its wood finish would be the most effort, and I'm no cabinet maker...

Over to you, gentlemen.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Noktu on 31 August 2019, 06:37:55 PM
I assume it still has some laquer on top?

You could try to paint it with a dark pigmented laquer. So you would not need to sand it at all.

And I'd probably pick the locks open and remove them alltogether and just glue the face back after painting.

I'd definately try to touch it up, it has a certain mystique to it!
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Dave Fielder on 31 August 2019, 07:36:21 PM
I'd got for it, keeping the natural colour. It'll take some sanding and then a coat to finish off but the effort will be worth it.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 31 August 2019, 07:38:48 PM
Sand, wax, or sell to my wife for her furniture restoration projects!  ;)
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Noktu on 31 August 2019, 09:29:11 PM
https://salvagedinspirations.com/5-ways-to-paint-furniture-without-sanding/

Some great ways to avoid sanding
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Steve J on 31 August 2019, 09:31:20 PM
I'd give it a coat/s of Danish oil, to help restore the wood and give it a nice finish. I think you would be pleasantly surprised. You can then wax over the top should you want to.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 August 2019, 11:46:39 PM
Speak to an expert. But that's too handsome to go to waste.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Sandinista on 01 September 2019, 12:43:13 AM
I like the matt black idea, but then I was a Goth briefly in the 80s  :)

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: FierceKitty on 01 September 2019, 01:05:30 AM
Goths couldn't have produced much black cloth, if a recent debate got it right.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Techno on 01 September 2019, 07:14:33 AM
I think you should pick the lock on that door...There might be something interesting hidden in there.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: OldenBUA on 01 September 2019, 07:44:12 AM
I am all for the practical solution. It's not the most spectacular desk, and it should fit with the other furniture, so just paint it black.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: fsn on 01 September 2019, 08:10:49 AM
Quote from: Steve J on 31 August 2019, 09:31:20 PM
I'd give it a coat/s of Danish oil, to help restore the wood and give it a nice finish. I think you would be pleasantly surprised. You can then wax over the top should you want to.
Yup. Wot Mr J said.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Kiwidave on 01 September 2019, 12:38:41 PM
Cheers guys - given me something to think about :)

[Knowing me, I'll agonise over it for another month before making a decision...]
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Sandinista on 02 September 2019, 07:28:25 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 01 September 2019, 01:05:30 AM
Goths couldn't have produced much black cloth, if a recent debate got it right.

That's why I stopped being a Goth - I ran out of cloth  ;)

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: FierceKitty on 02 September 2019, 08:13:46 AM
And why Swedes are so often nudists these days.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: industrialtrousers on 03 September 2019, 08:47:59 PM
If it were my desk I'd probably strip the bugger then use a teak varnish or stain.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Norm on 04 September 2019, 04:38:07 AM
Two points grabbed my attention first;

has a it a rarity value, i.e. does it 'deserve' to be restored for its own sake?

how is that drop down flap supported. I know it is intended as a writing type desk, but will it take the rigours of a painting desk.

outside of all of that, as already suggested, I would lightly sand and then lightly rub in Danish Oil .... repeat etc. until the wood is fully fed, has a sheen and no raised (swollen) grain. There is a smell off Danish Oil.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Kiwidave on 04 September 2019, 05:58:34 AM
Norm,

It has two arms that come out of the desk to support the flap. The flap itself will need a bit of work as the pieces of wood that constitute it are starting to part company.

The main drawback to any restorative work is that we are in an apartment, so nowhere convenient to sand or stink out with oils.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Kiwidave on 14 October 2019, 09:08:56 PM
Apologies for the thread necromancy!

Desk now completed :D

Stripped the original varnish and sanded; then two coats of Jacobean Dark Oak wood dye, then two coats of lacquer/varnish. The metalwork polished up with liberal application of Brasso and elbow grease.
I've not done the internal drawers section (other than the door) as a) it would be fiddlier to strip, and b) look OK as is.

Before and After
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/135257379/Desk%20exterior.jpg) (http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/136300998/Desk%20exterior%20%28new%29.jpg)

(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/135257382/Desk%20interior.jpg) (http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/136301001/Desk%20interior%20%20%28new%29.jpg)   

Drawers
I also lined the drawers with adhesive vinyl:
(http://kiwidave.pbworks.com/w/file/fetch/136300995/Desk%20drawers.jpg)   

All I need now is my painting stuff to arrive and I'm all set :)
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Ithoriel on 14 October 2019, 09:11:46 PM
Very nicely done!
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 October 2019, 09:56:47 PM
Superb work.
1:1 scale work is really hard.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: paulr on 14 October 2019, 10:57:47 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Poggle on 15 October 2019, 12:05:33 AM
Jolly nice, that.  :-bd
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: FierceKitty on 15 October 2019, 01:20:27 AM
Time well spent, there. :)
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: lowlylowlycook on 15 October 2019, 02:04:26 AM
Well done!
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Techno on 15 October 2019, 06:27:20 AM
Really good job ! :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: fsn on 15 October 2019, 06:51:39 AM
Nicely done, sir.
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: mmcv on 15 October 2019, 07:01:34 AM
Good job, looks the part
Title: Re: To Restore or Not to Restore - That is the Question
Post by: Kiwidave on 15 October 2019, 12:40:19 PM
Cheers guys. :)

It was an interesting exercise, and I'm sort of tempted to do it again to something else, but it will have to wait until we move to a house with a shed/garage to work in.

KD