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Title: Anyone made a ship-mill?
Post by: Chris Pringle on 30 July 2019, 09:32:08 PM
I think it would be a cool terrain item to have:
https://bloodybigbattles.blogspot.com/2019/07/unusual-terrain-item-ship-mill.html

Chris

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Title: Re: Anyone made a ship-mill?
Post by: Steve J on 31 July 2019, 06:08:58 AM
It certainly would Chris 8)
Title: Re: Anyone made a ship-mill?
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 31 July 2019, 10:16:40 AM
I recall an account of one of the Napoleonic battles (Aspern Esseling), where a "Mill" was sent downstream in an attempt to cut the bridges.

At the time I wondered at the engineering effort to drop a building into a river, and indeed whether it would provide the necessary buoyancy.
It seems very likely that the mill in question was one of these ship mills.


From an engineering perspective, it's an excellent solution to the problem of broad, flat slow-moving waterways with variable water level.
Contrast with the traditional watermill with pool / weir, sluices and flume / race.
Title: Re: Anyone made a ship-mill?
Post by: FierceKitty on 31 July 2019, 10:18:25 AM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 31 July 2019, 10:16:40 AM

From an engineering perspective, it's an excellent solution to the problem of broad, flat slow-moving waterways with variable water level.
Contrast with the traditional watermill with pool / weir, sluices and flume / race.

Good point.
Title: Re: Anyone made a ship-mill?
Post by: Chris Pringle on 31 July 2019, 10:36:05 AM
Aspern-Essling? Excellent find!

And the answer to my question is yes, at least one wargamer has done it:
http://paulsbods.blogspot.com/2015/07/shipmill-scratchbuilt.html

Chris
Title: Re: Anyone made a ship-mill?
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 31 July 2019, 09:35:26 PM
Quote from: Chris Pringle on 31 July 2019, 10:36:05 AM
Aspern-Essling? Excellent find!

And the answer to my question is yes, at least one wargamer has done it:
http://paulsbods.blogspot.com/2015/07/shipmill-scratchbuilt.html

Chris

Excellent stuff!

His rough description of its control gives me a few good ideas.
How do you position your "ship mill" in the strongest current, yet retain the ability to berth it for loading and unloading.

1. Tether to a fixed point on the bank, pay out retaining roles and rudders on the ship control its facing (think of flying a kite, but in two dimensions).

2. Strong piles close to the current, and more on the bank, a windlass aboard permits the mill to "crab" out to the current or back to the bank, much like a modern chain ferry.
    2a. Extra credit for students who link the windlass to the mill-wheel. The mill now powers itself from midstream to bank (and back if you engineered a reverse gear).

3. Dangle the mill downstream form a bridge, you can now tow it sideways to the back, or pull it in to a dock built into the bridge.
    (This one won't work on a tidal stretch of the river unless you have elaborate arrangements to pass the mill under the bridge every turn of tide).
Title: Re: Anyone made a ship-mill?
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 31 July 2019, 09:41:27 PM
When I first read "Ship Mill" I wondered whether it was this.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesapeake_Mill (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chesapeake_Mill)

A mill built from old ship's timbers.