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Title: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Steve J on 25 July 2019, 07:02:55 PM
An AAR of this weeks game can be found on my Blog. It is very pic heavy due to the nature of the game. Hope you enjoy it as much as we did playing it:

https://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-battle-of-kurudere-1854-bloody-big.html (https://wwiiwargaming.blogspot.com/2019/07/the-battle-of-kurudere-1854-bloody-big.html)

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Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: d_Guy on 25 July 2019, 11:18:44 PM
Enjoyed reading through the AAR and, as usual liked the abundance of pics which makes following how the battle develops much easier. Knowing what you want to accomplish and then sticking to the plan is a great observation. Once you lose focus an start improvising only the lucky win. 😀
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Ithoriel on 25 July 2019, 11:45:28 PM
"No plan survives first contact with the enemy"  - Helmuth van Moltke.
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Steve J on 26 July 2019, 05:55:51 AM
Having a plan is good, certainly in terms of deployment, placement of artillery and broad plan of attack. In this game the plan broadly worked, until I got a bit of a kicking assaulting one of the objectives!
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: paulr on 26 July 2019, 06:12:20 AM
Had a chance to read the AAR  :-bd =D> :-bd

Interesting Post Game Thoughts as always :)
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Techno on 26 July 2019, 06:42:42 AM
Excellent report, Steve.  :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Shedman on 26 July 2019, 07:26:46 AM
Excellent - this one is on my to-do list
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 July 2019, 07:28:20 AM
Nice report chaps
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Leman on 26 July 2019, 07:35:57 AM
That looked terrific. I am becoming quite inspired to have a goo at the BBB Crimean battles in 6mm.
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Steve J on 26 July 2019, 07:50:28 AM
Glad you enjoyed chaps, as we certainly did. Andy, I'd never considered the Crimea, but I'm going to have a look at the other battles as well as the general history. From a quick search there is a lot more to it than I ever learnt in school!
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Chris Pringle on 26 July 2019, 12:32:17 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 26 July 2019, 07:50:28 AM
I'd never considered the Crimea

Me too - I was pretty sceptical about whether it would produce games that were actually any fun to play. I couldn't have been more wrong, the Crimea campaign turned out to be one of the best we've done. I think the asymmetry between the opposing armies is a big part of it, but also the battle situations are actually much more interesting than my previous superficial knowledge made me assume. There's a lot more to it than a dull frontal assault at the Alma and a doomed cavalry charge at Balaclava.

Chris

Bloody Big BATTLES!
https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/BBB_wargames/info
http://bloodybigbattles.blogspot.com/
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Dave Fielder on 26 July 2019, 12:38:04 PM
"Doomed, were are all doomed". I must admit that the Russians made very hard work of the battle and the Turks seemed to be unusually motivated. I think SteveJ has re-installed the magnetic loop under the table which flipped all my 6 results to 1, the flickering lights were a give away.
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Steve J on 26 July 2019, 03:36:02 PM
I've been rumbled ;) :D.
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Techno on 26 July 2019, 03:42:39 PM
You certainly have, Tarquin.  :D

Cheers - Phil  ;)
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: mmcv on 30 July 2019, 05:58:28 PM
Good game chaps
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Leman on 31 July 2019, 07:17:28 AM
Quote from: Steve J on 26 July 2019, 07:50:28 AM
Glad you enjoyed chaps, as we certainly did. Andy, I'd never considered the Crimea, but I'm going to have a look at the other battles as well as the general history. From a quick search there is a lot more to it than I ever learnt in school!
School history has become naff since the National Curriculum. The study of history is an exercise in developing curiosity as much as anything. Pre-1988 I used to teach about the ACW quite extensively to third years (now Y9 - if the yanks do it then it must be good and slavishly followed), covering all the different aspects of it. When I retired slavery had become the fault of the British Empire and how awful we all were because of it. The ACW was not mentioned at all. I had to cover British history from 1485 to 1914 in the second year (Y8) on two lessons a week. In the following year WWI got a whole term to itself!
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Chris Pringle on 31 July 2019, 07:46:24 AM
Quote from: Leman on 31 July 2019, 07:17:28 AM
School history has become naff since the National Curriculum.

I may have mentioned this here before: a couple of years ago I reviewed a chapter of the manuscript of a textbook being written for the War and Society curriculum. I caused the authors serious problems because the historical facts I pointed out were at odds with what the curriculum required them to say.

Chris

Bloody Big BATTLES!
https://uk.groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/BBB_wargames/info
bloodybigbattles.blogspot.com/


Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Techno on 31 July 2019, 08:08:52 AM
Quote from: Leman on 31 July 2019, 07:17:28 AM
School history has become naff since the National Curriculum.

I found it totally naff in the sixties......It was SO boring, the only thing I can remember is the 'South Sea Bubble'.

(Just the South Sea Bubble........Not what it was, or anything about it....Just the phrase 'South Sea Bubble'.

Blank knows how I ever got an O level pass in History.

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: fsn on 31 July 2019, 11:44:24 AM
They thought that after 23 years it was worth it just to get rid of you.  :P
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 31 July 2019, 03:26:27 PM
You missed a zero there Nobby - the time for his clay tablets to dry enough for marking.
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Dave Fielder on 13 August 2019, 03:56:34 PM
I've been inspired to read more into the 1877-78 Russo-Turkish war following this battle and also a holiday in Turkey. Quentin Barry's The War in the East is a very detailed account and captures a lot of the flavour in Balkans and the Caucasus region. The impact of this war led to the instability in the Balkans that started WW1, this sort of information is not being covered in school and hence we are failing to teach and learn about previous mistakes. Looking at the current Euro-babble rhetoric I question if we are yet again sleep walking into European conflict exactly as we did at the start of the 19th Century.

Then again, the uniforms are really interesting and fun to paint, so what-evs.  ;)
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: Leman on 14 August 2019, 04:17:42 PM
Late 20s early 30s C20th - recession, austerity, persecution of minorities and big promises made to a gullible public by right wing leaders. Don't think that could ever happen again after what we learned from that!
Title: Re: The Battle of Kurudere, 1854 - a BBB AAR.
Post by: ronan on 14 August 2019, 06:44:02 PM
Quote from: Leman on 14 August 2019, 04:17:42 PM
Late 20s early 30s C20th - recession, austerity, persecution of minorities and big promises made to a gullible public by right wing leaders. Don't think that could ever happen again after what we learned from that!

I really hope you're right ......