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Title: Argh I HATE that manufacturers bases...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 June 2019, 09:17:45 PM
That manufacturer from the East of England, I'm putting together 100 of his infantry for a commission, I've had to trim and bend, stick, rebend, restick every figure, at least twice.


Just... grrr!! 
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Post by: mmcv on 15 June 2019, 09:23:30 PM
hE' sux?  :-$
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 15 June 2019, 10:20:20 PM
Yes, they sux mightily! 
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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 17 June 2019, 09:07:49 AM
 :)
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 June 2019, 12:03:24 PM
And 5/8 of each pack reglued yesterday too!  :'(
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Post by: Leman on 17 June 2019, 03:14:27 PM
When people talk about the east of England, I tend to think of Lincolnshire and East Anglia. Never had any dealings with figure manufacturers from that neck of the woods.
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 June 2019, 03:16:02 PM
There must be some...
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Post by: Leman on 18 June 2019, 08:26:36 AM
I appreciate that you don't want to identify this manufacturer but I am getting nothing from the clue referring to the east of England. If you mean Yorkshire then that's the North. If you mean Nottinghamshire then that's the East Midlands. I suppose it's a bit like my reference to bloody southerners, actually it just means the Home Counties, not places like Wiltshire or Dorset.
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Post by: O Dinas Powys on 18 June 2019, 08:37:16 AM
Quote from: Leman on 18 June 2019, 08:26:36 AM
I appreciate that you don't want to identify this manufacturer but I am getting nothing from the clue referring to the east of England. If you mean Yorkshire then that's the North. If you mean Nottinghamshire then that's the East Midlands. I suppose it's a bit like my reference to bloody southerners, actually it just means the Home Counties, not places like Wiltshire or Dorset.

You need to come a lot further south and think where Messers Gooch and Cook used to ply their county trade  :-$ ;)
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Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 18 June 2019, 09:47:37 AM
Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 18 June 2019, 08:37:16 AM
You need to come a lot further south and think where Messers Gooch and Cook used to ply their county trade  :-$ ;)

And the girls, the girls!
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Post by: mmcv on 18 June 2019, 10:26:25 AM
Where the Saxons did roam.
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Post by: Raider4 on 18 June 2019, 10:31:05 AM
Only the eastern ones.

The southern, western and middle saxons settled elsewhere.
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Post by: Techno on 18 June 2019, 10:57:34 AM
Quote from: Leman on 18 June 2019, 08:26:36 AM
I appreciate that you don't want to identify this manufacturer but I am getting nothing from the clue referring to the east of England. If you mean Yorkshire then that's the North. If you mean Nottinghamshire then that's the East Midlands. I suppose it's a bit like my reference to bloody southerners, actually it just means the Home Counties, not places like Wiltshire or Dorset.

Oh, Andy.....Even I can get this one.....Even tho' I've never made any figures for them.

Write a PM to me...addressed to.....

Techno....Behind the pipes...Third washroom along....Somewhere in.....Oh, never mind. ;)

Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Zippee on 18 June 2019, 11:00:28 AM
I find the best solution to the East Saxon problem is to use blu-tac on the bases and then glue the figures (and what base they have) into the blu-tac'd base.

Either a blob for each or a sausage of the blue stuff across the width of the base - which can then be pushed around and textured a bit to boot.
Title: Re: Argh I HATE that manufacturers bases...
Post by: Leman on 18 June 2019, 12:40:22 PM
It's ok, enough clues now. Didn't even need a Joey, as the Aussies might say. I suppose it saves on metal but they can be a pain to get to stand upright initially. And yes, I would refer to that as the south. My mum came from there and we often used to take the mick out of her herm sandwiches.
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Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 18 June 2019, 01:15:55 PM
Quote from: Raider4 on 18 June 2019, 10:31:05 AM
Only the eastern ones.

The southern, western and middle saxons settled elsewhere.

I'm pretty sure they got a Dutchman to reclaim that particular spot.
Makes you wonder why they didn't re-reclaim it during their raid on the Medway.

As for me.
I construct a Plasticine scaffold to fold the little guys in place until the gloop is set.
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Post by: Dr Dave on 18 June 2019, 05:56:57 PM
Essex? Why can't we just say: "ESSEX"?  :o

It is Essex isn't it?
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Post by: mmcv on 18 June 2019, 06:41:50 PM
Quote from: Dr Dave on 18 June 2019, 05:56:57 PM
Essex? Why can't we just say: "ESSEX"?  :o

It is Essex isn't it?

Why would you think it was Essex?  8->
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 18 June 2019, 06:45:46 PM
 :-t ^#(^ :-$
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Post by: Orcs on 18 June 2019, 07:25:36 PM
I know LOTS of Essex girl jokes

What's the difference between a Walrus and an Essex girl?

One has a moustache, oily skin and smells of fish.  the other one is a Walrus.

I can go on .........
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Post by: Leman on 19 June 2019, 08:30:43 AM
Please don't; I'm feeling queasy now.
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Post by: John Cook on 19 June 2019, 02:29:58 PM
Still none the wiser.  If goods are faulty I usually send them back.
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Post by: Techno on 19 June 2019, 02:48:54 PM
 X_X

(Ohhh.....Gimme strength....... ;D ;D ;D ;D)

OK.....Enough about ESSEX.

That includes you, Mark.....Especially !!

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Argh I HATE that manufacturers bases...
Post by: Leman on 19 June 2019, 07:19:37 PM
Quote from: John Cook on 19 June 2019, 02:29:58 PM
Still none the wiser.  If goods are faulty I usually send them back.
Essex is a British wargame company that has been in business for almost forty years. They have very crisp figures, but in order to save weight/metal/money (?) they deliberately make their stands very small and, in the case of cavalry, very narrow, thus making them very difficult to glue to a base without them flopping to one side or the other before the glue has set.
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Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 19 June 2019, 09:14:47 PM
Quote from: Dr Dave on 18 June 2019, 05:56:57 PM
Essex? Why can't we just say: "ESSEX"?  :o

It is Essex isn't it?

You said it three times.

Now Joey Essex will appear and won't leave until you#ve taught him the rules of Advanced Squad Leader.
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Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 19 June 2019, 09:18:56 PM
Quote from: Leman on 19 June 2019, 07:19:37 PM
Essex is a British wargame company that has been in business for almost forty years. They have very crisp figures, but in order to save weight/metal/money (?) they deliberately make their stands very small and, in the case of cavalry, very narrow, thus making them very difficult to glue to a base without them flopping to one side or the other before the glue has set.

A very fair summary.

Very crisp castings and a huge variety of figures, nations and periods.
But difficult to base.
I wonder whether I should break out my recently acquired hot glue gun to speed things along.

I based 18 of their little blighters this morning and had to do it in two sessions, with a Plasticine scaffold improvised for each one.


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Post by: sultanbev on 19 June 2019, 11:29:10 PM
Ah, the dreaded Essex bases!
My technique is:
smear the mdf/card base with contact adhesive.
smear the underside of the cavalry base with gel superglue, hold for a few seconds, then press firmly into place, and hold for a few seconds - the superglue causes the contact adhesive to set mmuch quicker. You'll still get the odd one that falls over a minute later, but it works 10 times out of 12.

Mark
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Post by: Orcs on 20 June 2019, 12:32:12 AM
Quote from: sultanbev on 19 June 2019, 11:29:10 PM
smear the mdf/card base with contact adhesive.

That statement reminds me of another Essex girl joke.

How does an Essex girl know if she has had a good night out? .........  The rest of this joke has been censored by Techno.  :o  Whatever happened to Free Speech?


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Post by: Techno on 20 June 2019, 06:05:10 AM
If that's the joke I'm thinking of, Mark....And I'm fairly certain it is. X_X

I'm glad you 'self censored'. ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 20 June 2019, 06:46:09 AM
LIke I said before - the Welsh have no sense of humour ! ;)
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Post by: Dr Dave on 20 June 2019, 07:24:02 AM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 19 June 2019, 09:14:47 PM
You said it three times.

Now Joey Essex will appear and won't leave until you#ve taught him the rules of Advanced Squad Leader.

Just the basic game was bad enough. But to compound the added complexity with poor Joey as well... That's just harsh...  :(
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Post by: Leman on 20 June 2019, 09:26:59 AM
An Englishman, an Englishman and an Englishman go into a pub, get totally and absolutely legless, throw up over each other, lose half their clothes, come round with the world's worst headaches then tell everyone they had a great time. As a Welshman I find that hilarious.
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Post by: Orcs on 20 June 2019, 06:48:54 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 20 June 2019, 06:46:09 AM
LIke I said before - the Welsh have no sense of humour ! ;)

Lets be honest If you lived in Wales where:-

99% of your neighbours were sheep with the best conversation limited to BAAA,
It rained all the time
Summer was the single afternoon it rained only with a shower or two
You had little or no TV/phone reception due to the mountains.
The pubs all shut on Sundays
Most place names are unpronounceable.

You would not have much of a sense of humour  :d
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Post by: Leman on 21 June 2019, 07:28:47 AM
Twll du'n bob sais!
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 21 June 2019, 08:20:13 AM
Quote from: Orcs on 20 June 2019, 06:48:54 PM
Lets be honest If you lived in Wales where:-

99% of your neighbours were sheep with the best conversation limited to BAAA,
It rained all the time
Summer was the single afternoon it rained only with a shower or two
You had little or no TV/phone reception due to the mountains.
The pubs all shut on Sundays
Most place names are unpronounceable.

You would not have much of a sense of humour  :d


You missed one - the locals all spoke gibberish !!!
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Post by: O Dinas Powys on 21 June 2019, 10:56:06 AM
Quote from: Orcs on 20 June 2019, 06:48:54 PM
Lets be honest If you lived in Wales where:-

99% of your neighbours were sheep with the best conversation limited to BAAA,
It rained all the time
Summer was the single afternoon it rained only with a shower or two
You had little or no TV/phone reception due to the mountains.
The pubs all shut on Sundays
Most place names are unpronounceable.

You would not have much of a sense of humour  :d


Bit racist  :-/
Title: Re: Argh I HATE that manufacturers bases...
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 21 June 2019, 10:57:00 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 21 June 2019, 08:20:13 AM
You missed one - the locals all spoke gibberish !!!

It's these continual micro-aggressions that are both lame and wearing...
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Post by: Leman on 21 June 2019, 01:27:37 PM
Also getting pissed off with this. If Black, muslim or women was substituted there would be a positive shitstorm!
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Post by: Raider4 on 21 June 2019, 01:51:23 PM
Quote from: Leman on 21 June 2019, 01:27:37 PM
Also getting pissed off with this.

Absolutely! Please stop.
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Post by: Techno on 22 June 2019, 10:43:41 AM
I've found it personally insulting.

It's NOT banter...(Tee Hee hee).....It's......No forget it ! >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:( >:(

Be nice to get a couple of apologies.....But that's not going to happen..

*****.

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Post by: Techno on 22 June 2019, 04:07:01 PM
I'm still waiting.

...Why do I bother.
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Post by: John Cook on 22 June 2019, 10:51:31 PM
Quote from: Leman on 19 June 2019, 07:19:37 PM
Essex is a British wargame company that has been in business for almost forty years. They have very crisp figures, but in order to save weight/metal/money (?) they deliberately make their stands very small and, in the case of cavalry, very narrow, thus making them very difficult to glue to a base without them flopping to one side or the other before the glue has set.


Really.  Well, I've been wargaming for 55 years and I can't say I remember ever having heard of them, not even when I was into 15mm, which must now be more than 30 years ago. 
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Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 23 June 2019, 12:16:55 PM
Quote from: John Cook on 22 June 2019, 10:51:31 PM

Really.  Well, I've been wargaming for 55 years and I can't say I remember ever having heard of them, not even when I was into 15mm, which must now be more than 30 years ago. 

Worth a look, some of the pictures provide a good illustration of the tiny bases.

https://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/ (https://www.essexminiatures.co.uk/)

My Plasticine basing system consists of building a harness / scaffold to support the figures.
The supports start life as a mushroom shaped bit of plasticene and are re-shaped to provide a stable pose for the figure until the glue is properly set.