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Pendraken Rules! => Blitzkrieg Commander IV => BKC-IV Rule Queries => Topic started by: AJ at the Bank on 27 May 2019, 03:38:06 PM

Title: Water Obstacles
Post by: AJ at the Bank on 27 May 2019, 03:38:06 PM
Clarification on this rule on p34 please -

Looks like this rule is a lift from BKCII - but does it now only apply for units without the Amphibious Special Ability - and units with that ability use the appropriate rule on p76?

Thanks

A
Title: Re: Water Obstacles
Post by: Big Insect on 28 May 2019, 09:10:39 PM
Sorry - I don't understand the question?

P34 is clear. Amphibious vehicles, infantry and engineers in assault boats can cross water obstacles.
Amphibious vehicles are classified in the army lists (no different from BCKII).
An assault boat is actually a transport with Aquatic capabilities.

I see no need to change this. Am I missing something here?
Title: Re: Water Obstacles
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 29 May 2019, 07:06:31 AM
I hope the assault boat has aquatic only capabilities, - 70's British Army ones were da*med heavy !
Title: Re: Water Obstacles
Post by: AJ at the Bank on 29 May 2019, 01:25:35 PM
Thanks Mark -

Apologies ...I was not being clear.

Rule on p34 states "Separate orders must be issued to enter and exit each water obstacle and all troops move at 5cm per action when in water."

Amphibious Special Ability allows units to treat as Open Terrain for movement

(1) Are there any units that can cross water obstacles - but do not have the Amphibious ability please?
E.g. Does any unit have to be issued separate orders and only move 5cm?

(2) Do Amphibious units move only 5cm per action or their listed Move rate please (e.g. DUKW 20cm)?

Many thanks
Title: Re: Water Obstacles
Post by: Big Insect on 29 May 2019, 01:57:45 PM
The 5cm move restriction was intended to apply to wading shallow rivers and streams by units and troops that are not equipped to be fully amphibious.

We'll pick that up in the errata. Your DUCKW will traverse the water at it's actual speed - but must stop to enter the water obstacle - so cannot move (for example - it cannot move 10cm to a river, them move 10cm across the river, within a single turn.)

Thanks
Title: Re: Water Obstacles
Post by: AJ at the Bank on 29 May 2019, 02:21:17 PM
Thanks Mark


oh right - I just read the '..treat as Open Terrain' as meaning nothing causes me to stop cause its open.

Helpful clarification indeed!
Title: Re: Water Obstacles
Post by: Big Insect on 29 May 2019, 02:31:39 PM
This is because a lot of so called amphibious vehicles need some element of preparation to go amphibious - there will be exceptions - but its a general rule.
Also most crews are more cautious about just flinging their vehicle into unknown water than we might imagine!
Title: Re: Water Obstacles
Post by: AJ at the Bank on 29 May 2019, 06:05:21 PM
Thanks Mark - Understood.
Closed
Title: Re: Water Obstacles
Post by: Dr Dave on 29 May 2019, 06:38:52 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 29 May 2019, 07:06:31 AM
I hope the assault boat has aquatic only capabilities, - 70's British Army ones were da*med heavy !

Ian, were the aquatic assets "dam" heavy? Dam heavy... dam.  ;D ;D ;D

I'm hear all week. Try the fish.

Coat please.
Title: Re: Water Obstacles
Post by: Raider4 on 29 May 2019, 06:54:32 PM
Quote from: Dr Dave on 29 May 2019, 06:38:52 PM
I'm hear all week.

Pardon?