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Title: This should hurt.....
Post by: sultanbev on 21 May 2019, 03:44:59 PM
https://www.mdmrc.org/stamford-show-2019.html

=((

crowdfunding page:
https://www.justgiving.com/crowdfunding/market-deeping-mrc

Mark
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: Raider4 on 21 May 2019, 04:41:50 PM
Yeah, saw that on the Beeb a couple of days ago. Apparently they've already got north of £30K.

But, money can't replace the time & effort & love that's gone into building what's been destroyed. I really, really feel for the members of the MRC.
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: mollinary on 21 May 2019, 07:38:12 PM
No. Money cannot replace what they have lost, but it can show that others care, and inspire them to rebuild, better than before. This could happen to any of us, and I think it should make us think, and if we can, contribute to the recovery of fellow hobbyists.
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: fsn on 21 May 2019, 07:47:19 PM
Shocking. I've made a modest donation.
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: paulr on 21 May 2019, 07:52:10 PM
Appalling, I hope they catch the @#$$%-&+
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 21 May 2019, 08:12:10 PM
Quote from: paulr on 21 May 2019, 07:52:10 PM
Appalling, I hope they catch the @#$$%-&+

The police arrested four youths at the school.
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: Westmarcher on 21 May 2019, 08:27:31 PM
They are way over target, now. According to this Rod Stewart is pledging £10k.

https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/people/devastated-sir-rod-stewart-to-donate-10k-after-stamford-model-railway-exhibition-destroyed-1-8933754 (https://www.peterboroughtoday.co.uk/news/people/devastated-sir-rod-stewart-to-donate-10k-after-stamford-model-railway-exhibition-destroyed-1-8933754)
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: fsn on 21 May 2019, 08:38:07 PM
I believe Mr Stewart is something of a model train enthusiast. Said he was more proud of appearing on the cover of Railway Modeller Magazine than any of the music magazines.
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: Techno on 22 May 2019, 07:20:28 AM
Good for Rod S. :)

Great to hear that they've gone past their target.  :-bd.....But as has already been said, you can't really replace what has been lost

What a sad little bunch of wonkers to cause this type of mindless damage.  >:( >:( >:(

Let's hope they have caught the perpetrators.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: paulr on 22 May 2019, 08:42:17 AM
Quote from: fsn on 21 May 2019, 08:38:07 PM
I believe Mr Stewart is something of a model train enthusiast. Said he was more proud of appearing on the cover of Railway Modeller Magazine than any of the music magazines.

Rachel Hunter, the New Zealand super model, complained that Rod spent too much time playing with his trains while they were married #-o
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 22 May 2019, 11:06:44 AM
Quote from: paulr on 22 May 2019, 08:42:17 AM
Rachel Hunter, the New Zealand super model, complained that Rod spent too much time playing with his trains while they were married #-o

It was mentioned on the There's No Such Thing as a Fish podcast (from the QI Elves/fact finders) that when on tour he books two suites: one for himself, one for his model railway  ;)
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: fsn on 22 May 2019, 11:22:45 AM
Ah! A fellow Fish fancier!

That's my friday evening treat.  :D
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: FierceKitty on 22 May 2019, 11:36:50 AM
Just seen this now. Swines; here's hoping they get Hannibal Lecter as a cellmate.
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: Leon on 22 May 2019, 01:10:53 PM
I saw this at the weekend, absolutely awful and I hope these kids get some form of punishment and not the usual slap on the wrist.  Maybe make them come along to the Railway club and actually force them to build a small layout themselves, so they can see how much time and effort goes into these things.

As a show organiser, this is also my worst nightmare.  We're lucky that our venue have got 24-hour security on the campus in case of break-ins, and I always make sure that I'm there when they lock up on the Friday night before the event.
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 23 May 2019, 11:03:39 AM
Quote from: Leon on 22 May 2019, 01:10:53 PM
I saw this at the weekend, absolutely awful and I hope these kids get some form of punishment and not the usual slap on the wrist.  Maybe make them come along to the Railway club and actually force them to build a small layout themselves, so they can see how much time and effort goes into these things.

Hear, hear

Personally I think that is a perfect situation for "restorative justice": if facing people whose twenty-five years of hard work you've wrecked doesn't have an effect, help show them that crimes are never victimless and understand the devastation they've caused ...
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: Techno on 23 May 2019, 12:37:19 PM
Trouble is Meirion....They probably still think it was 'a larf'.

(Gits) >:( >:( >:( >:(

Cheers - Mr Angry.

Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 23 May 2019, 12:54:09 PM
Quote from: Techno on 23 May 2019, 12:37:19 PM
Trouble is Meirion....They probably still think it was 'a larf'.

(Gits) >:( >:( >:( >:(

Cheers - Mr Angry.

Possibly, but I believe there's good evidence - not that I can cite any off the top of my head - that putting the human face in the perpetrator's mind of the victim can have a profound effect.  It can also have a cathartic and ameliorative effect on the victim as well.

Got to be worth a try?

Anyway, this has the potential to become political so let's leave it at that and send best wishes to Market Deeping Model Railway Club.
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: Techno on 23 May 2019, 03:26:33 PM
Fair enough, Matey.  ;)

Cheers - Phil

Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: FierceKitty on 24 May 2019, 12:22:34 AM
Speaking as someone who grew up in a police state, I need to remark that there are some victimless crimes. Turing was legally convicted of a crime, but he was the only victim. My present marriage would have earned me five to ten in the old days in my dear country.

None of which excuses malicious vandalism.
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: fsn on 24 May 2019, 06:41:18 AM
I have just received a nice message from the club, thanking me for my donation.

They're now at £136000 so they are greatly over their target.

I was reflecting that I have always thought of railway modellers as second class citizens* in a way. Great at terrain, but their models don't have a "bang" element and there don't seem to be dice involved.

I am comforted by the thought that this dreadful incident shows the commonality in our hobbies. We're not so different. Perhaps there's a wider lesson there?


*Techically third class. Them toffee nosed modellers and their artistic ways! Always lauding it above us hard hobbying gamers!
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: fsn on 10 June 2019, 12:30:48 PM
Message from the "Market Deeping Model Railway Club"

"This (crowdfunding) page will close on the 19th of June. During that short period of time you, our supporters and fellow modelers have raised a staggering amount of money for which we shall ever be grateful. In addition, we have received numerous offers of goods and help in all sorts of ways. Thank you one and all We are currently formulating plans but above all we are determined that we will be promoting model railway modelling amongst the local youngsters and model rail clubs."

5,435 people gave £107,200. 
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: Leman on 10 June 2019, 01:23:08 PM
Quote from: O Dinas Powys on 23 May 2019, 12:54:09 PM
Possibly, but I believe there's good evidence - not that I can cite any off the top of my head - that putting the human face in the perpetrator's mind of the victim can have a profound effect.  It can also have a cathartic and ameliorative effect on the victim as well.

Got to be worth a try?

Anyway, this has the potential to become political so let's leave it at that and send best wishes to Market Deeping Model Railway Club.
Were it me  a bullet in the perpetrator's mind would have an ameliorative effect. There are too many people on the planet and too many are about as much use as a chocolate fireguard. Then when they do something despicable we have to pay for them to be kept out of the way. Age is having a decided effect on my levels of toleration.
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: Big Insect on 10 June 2019, 01:32:28 PM
It's worth checking out the average age of dictators Leman - well particularly in the past - as it generally has a direct correlation to the 'angry old men' brigade time of life.

At least with dictators, the trains ran on time and I bet they wouldn't have tolerate GWR spending £millions on brand new trains which, after nearly 9 months, still haven't gotten the seating reservations to work ... mutter. mutter, mutter! :'( 
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: FierceKitty on 10 June 2019, 01:52:13 PM
Ever travelled by train in Burma? Some dictatorships can't even run the railways.
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: sultanbev on 10 June 2019, 01:55:04 PM
"There are too many people on the planet..."
Amen, about 6.6 billion of them....
Title: Re: This should hurt.....
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 11 June 2019, 12:11:10 AM
Quote from: Big Insect on 10 June 2019, 01:32:28 PM
It's worth checking out the average age of dictators Leman - well particularly in the past - as it generally has a direct correlation to the 'angry old men' brigade time of life.

At least with dictators, the trains ran on time and I bet they wouldn't have tolerate GWR spending £millions on brand new trains which, after nearly 9 months, still haven't gotten the seating reservations to work ... mutter. mutter, mutter! :'( 

That's been shown as a myth.
In fact each station had a band of men who were paid to fiddle with the clocks.