.Those who follow my questions and queries will know I am setting up a 1939 era sideshow game in 6mm based loosely around the area of what was once Mesopotamia. An uncivil war with Western powers backing various factions for access to the oil.
The River Euphrates features in the game. And there is a need for river craft. Dhows and transports .....and MTBs and ......gunboats ?
Scotia Grendel do a amazing Type C Japanese gunboat and Irregular Miniatures have a WW1 style boat. Cruel Seas do weapon/gun packs that allows these ships to be upgunned etc.
The battle for the Cruel Rivers is on. :)
Looking forward to seeing this :)
Heroics and Ros have a nice little BMO gunboat in their Russian range that looks useful as well.
Zevzda have the Russian gunboat in 1/350, ok a tad small but ?
Quote from: sunjester on 10 May 2019, 09:53:50 PM
Heroics and Ros have a nice little BMO gunboat in their Russian range that looks useful as well.
It does ! I will ask the Arms Mission to enquire about their points value when they are in Moscow seeking BT7 tanks. :)
I will tell you what I am in the market for. A commercial steamer/ferry - shallow draft - that could be commandeered to transport troops. Anything out there in 1/300 or close ?
What about the Warlord cruel seas range? With all the wpn packs you might be able to scratch something - they do a tanker.
Any of these any good? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3d-Printed-Convoy-Ships-For-Cruel-Seas/173894461016?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
And much cheaper than the Warlord ships!
Quote from: sunjester on 11 May 2019, 03:17:02 PM
Any of these any good? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3d-Printed-Convoy-Ships-For-Cruel-Seas/173894461016?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
And much cheaper than the Warlord ships!
Many thanks for the heads up - Cruel Seas will spawn a range of 3D accessories in 1/300 ships- not bad thing.
A bit too ocean going for what I had in mind/budget. But I will keep looking.
If I can't find it or blodge it, I might just commission it. :)
Might have found the hull I am looking for! Plus a stern wheel casting (the hardest part to scratch build)
Pendraken colonial range SC9 in 10mm - keep the deck, stern wheel, smokestack and canopy. Add a new cabin area, wheel house and ramp in 1/300
Leon what's the length and beam of this model please ? :)
Once you got a hull thgen you are away, with card and glue. Ships are easy to build, honest. Must be if I can. Hardest part will be the stern, with a massive tumble home, but a 1/4 of a ball, or flower fixing one will help there.
Have fun.
IanS
Quote from: ianrs54 on 12 May 2019, 03:24:51 PM
Once you got a hull thgen you are away, with card and glue. Ships are easy to build, honest. Must be if I can. Hardest part will be the stern, with a massive tumble home, but a 1/4 of a ball, or flower fixing one will help there.
Have fun.
IanS
I will. I have an armada of ships in 1/144, mostly scratch built on a hull. My favourite is a hopper barge for my version of The Sea Wolves raid on Goa.
It started life as the hull of Revell 1/108 harbour tugboat.
Sometimes I think I might be in the wrong hobby!
1/300 is just a matter of finding - as you say Ian -the right hull.
Quote from: sunjester on 11 May 2019, 03:17:02 PM
Any of these any good? https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3d-Printed-Convoy-Ships-For-Cruel-Seas/173894461016?ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT&_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
And much cheaper than the Warlord ships!
The total actual cost of these would be about £2 in materials and about 12-14 hours print time. They don't even look amazingly well printed. The seller is also in breach of the creative Commons License under which they are distributed, by advertising them for sale at a profit.
...just saying... :-[
Hello James
If you're looking for hulls in smaller scales then you could use card models:-
http://hamapaper2.zouri.jp/thumblink2/thumb50.html (http://hamapaper2.zouri.jp/thumblink2/thumb50.html)
Which has
https://cfp.muerell.de/products/9 (https://cfp.muerell.de/products/9)
And
http://papermau.blogspot.com/search/label/boat (http://papermau.blogspot.com/search/label/boat)
https://www.papershipwright.co.uk/category/free-downloads/ (https://www.papershipwright.co.uk/category/free-downloads/) has lots of piers, etc
http://www.ss42.com/pt-boats.html (http://www.ss42.com/pt-boats.html)
Hopefully useful.
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Quote from: Wulf on 12 May 2019, 07:01:13 PM
The total actual cost of these would be about £2 in materials and about 12-14 hours print time. They don't even look amazingly well printed. The seller is also in breach of the creative Commons License under which they are distributed, by advertising them for sale at a profit.
...just saying... :-[
The total actual cost to me would be several hundred quid, plus about £2 in materials and 12-14 hours print time. :D
Your comment on the license, however, is very valid.
Quote from: GrumpyOldMan on 12 May 2019, 11:32:45 PM
Hello James
If you're looking for hulls in smaller scales then you could use card models:-
http://hamapaper2.zouri.jp/thumblink2/thumb50.html (http://hamapaper2.zouri.jp/thumblink2/thumb50.html)
Which has
https://cfp.muerell.de/products/9 (https://cfp.muerell.de/products/9)
And
http://papermau.blogspot.com/search/label/boat (http://papermau.blogspot.com/search/label/boat)
https://www.papershipwright.co.uk/category/free-downloads/ (https://www.papershipwright.co.uk/category/free-downloads/) has lots of piers, etc
http://www.ss42.com/pt-boats.html (http://www.ss42.com/pt-boats.html)
Hopefully useful.
Cheers
GrumpyOldMan
Thanks Victor - all good ideas. I will probably stick with metal/resin/plastic as the paper models don't last long in my little wars!
Quote from: Wulf on 12 May 2019, 07:01:13 PM
The total actual cost of these would be about £2 in materials and about 12-14 hours print time. They don't even look amazingly well printed. The seller is also in breach of the creative Commons License under which they are distributed, by advertising them for sale at a profit.
...just saying... :-[
I'm sure none of us on this forum want anything to do with intellectual piracy (is that the right term?), so before buying any of these ships I did check and the licence on Thingiverse does state "Commercial use is allowed".
Quote from: sunjester on 17 May 2019, 09:38:06 AM
I'm sure none of us on this forum want anything to do with intellectual piracy (is that the right term?), so before buying any of these ships I did check and the licence on Thingiverse does state "Commercial use is allowed".
I don't know which of the three ship models you were looking at, but the middle one, the only one I have personally downloaded & printed, is this one:
https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3398562 (https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3398562)
The license, stated down the left side, states 'Attribution, Non-Commercial, Share Alike'.The others may say differently, Creative Commons Licenses can be varied by the creators.
Quote from: Sunray on 11 May 2019, 02:43:01 PM
I will tell you what I am in the market for. A commercial steamer/ferry - shallow draft - that could be commandeered to transport troops. Anything out there in 1/300 or close ?
I came across a 1/300 Irregular river boat cabin & bridge in my son's spares box - and to create a longer hull, cut down an Airfix 1/72 pontoon boat.
A few bits of plastic card and it will be fit for purpose. :)