We've asked the sculptor to fit some Napoleonic casualties into the 1809 Naps schedule, so which casualties would you like to see? He's done a 75% complete casualty dolly, which we'll then add headgear, packs and belts to, to make each type. So they will be generic in some sense, but the different headgear should cover most of the armies you'll be looking to build. We can't go into the detail of adding every single type of headgear worn by every nation (regular shako / shako with light plume / shako with voltigeur shako / etc), we're just wanting a good selection to cover 99% of your needs.
So this is our current list:
Austrian helmet
Bavarian helmet
French shako
British Belgic shako
British/KGL/Hanover stovepipe shako
Prussian covered shako
French bearskin
1809 States bicorne
Any others which you'd like?
For a Dark Lord, you're awfully amenable.
I don't use casualty figures myself ... but I can see that list getting awfully long.
Rather than one body with several different versions of headgear, would it not be better to have a few different body positions and NO headgear. The logic being that the shako whatever has been displaced/lost. The basic uniform colouring is enough to will tell the nationality.
I would be OK with some generic stuff, like hatless casualties and smashed in artillery parts etc,
I wouldn't like it to be too generic. Plus, I also hope they will be designed for wargaming (i.e., no staggering Hollywood theatrics, please) - prone for dead or reclining for wounded positions. However, the odd pose limping away using a musket as a crutch or walking holding an arm might also be good. Omitting back packs would help a more generic look.
I think we need mounted as well as foot
The mounted casualty I'd keep to just a dead horse - it's the shabraque that will make them different, long pointed, short and square, etc so not many really, I suspect if you did a British heavy and light and a French heavy and light you'd be just about sorted
For the foot, I'd prefer them mostly face down in the dirt - headgear I think adds character, but can be adjacent or not. And I'd do say 2 for each of the big ranges and 1 for the lesser ranges.
Something like:
French - shako / bearskin (Grenadier/Guard)
Austrian - helmet / shako (Hungarian/Grenz)
British - shako / highland
Prussia - shako / landwehr
Bavaria/Wurttemberg - helmet
Saxony/Hesse - bicorn
Warsaw - czapska
Not sure if Hanoverian/DB/KGL or Nassua 1815 ranges need additional figs or not but I suppose it would be nice to set a precedent of 1 per range as that eventually ads up to a reasonable variety to mix and match from
"Any others which you'd like? "
Janissary
generic Arab in robe and turban (for any period really)
Austrian grenadier I 'd guess people would also want
If you did the prussian in covered shako and greatcoat, that would cover a lot of nations!
And a generic general in bicorne in heroic dying pose, perhaps with aide holding him up trying to give a sup from a canteen or something like that. (We'd like dead general markers)
Mark
There is a dead horse pack somewhere.
For mounted figures we've got the NPX1 code which is a horse casualty. I'm not sure if it's viable to change the shabraques and do multiples of them though?
The casualty dolly is laid on it's side, prone, with a rifle next to it. Each of the new types will have the uniform finalised, headgear added, packs put on if needed, etc.
Quote from: Zippee on 22 January 2019, 02:32:48 PM
Warsaw - czapska
Quote from: sultanbev on 22 January 2019, 03:48:19 PM
Austrian grenadier
Prussian in covered shako and greatcoat
We'll add those two and I'll ask the sculptor to do the Prussian one in a greatcoat.
Quote from: Last Hussar on 22 January 2019, 05:51:15 PM
There is a dead horse pack somewhere.
It doesn't sell well ...
Leon says it's pointless trying to flog a dead horse.
COAT!
Oh, and don't forget one of Techno with a cut finger.
Quote from: fsn on 22 January 2019, 09:09:48 PM
It doesn't sell well ...
Leon says it's pointless trying to flog a dead horse.
You really are an Oik, Nobby.
Thank you for your kind remarks.
Westie's trying, as well !! ;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil
I might be flogging a dead hat here, but since no-one seems to like my suggestion about hatless casualties which I felt allowed a more generic and hence a more versatile approach, what about casualties with multiple headgear instead. One has a standard prone casualty figure without headgear. On the base somewhere near the body lies say three types of headgear, perhaps helmet, shako, bearskin. Two of these could be cut/filed away by the purchaser, leaving whatever is desired.
Rather like the existing AWI casualty figures?
We raised that option with the sculptor but he preferred to do them on the figure. There's nothing really stopping us from putting hats on sprues and selling them as a separate item though.
That's a good idea.
Sculptor just wants extra work!
Nothing against hats on sprues, useful for all sorts of things but there's more to the differences between uniforms than just hats (although hats are a biggie0
backpacks, cut of the coat and length, gaiters/trousers/shorts and sandals, etc
and that's without worrying about details like epaulettes!
you're still probably doing a hatless dummy for each major nationality with accompanying sprue, so:
Austrian style figure - sprue with helmet, shako, bearskin
French style figure - sprue with shako, hat, bearskin
British style figure - sprue with belgic or stovepipe shako [probably still need a highlander though, can't be having separate sprues of kilts!]
etc. etc.
and then you still need the lesser states in helmet and bicorn, etc