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Non-Wargaming Discussion => Fun Stuff => Topic started by: Westmarcher on 23 December 2018, 06:48:57 PM

Title: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Westmarcher on 23 December 2018, 06:48:57 PM
I was watching the Christmas edition of Countryfile on BBC and the pub which is the centre of the village community goes back to 1781. This made me wonder what pub is the oldest regularly frequented by any member(s) in our esteemed forum.  We're not looking for the oldest pub in your area. We're looking for the oldest pub regulary frequented by you.

To be eligible, let's say you must visit the pub at least twice once per month for a drink and you either must live in the town or village it is situated in or the pub is not in another town or village from you, unless you live outside town (e.g., if its local but you never go in, its not eligible).*  This is not a competition - more of a survey - so even if you reside in the New World, it will still be interesting to know how old your local is.

I'll start the ball rolling ...

My local pub, The Fox & Hounds, Houston, goes back to 1779. With Great Britain at war with the fledgling United States, France and Spain in that year, I often wonder what the gossip was then. 

*If you still have a local pub which you regularly visit but which doesn't fit the eligibility requirements, feel free to mention it (but qualify your association with it)
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Ithoriel on 23 December 2018, 06:57:49 PM
Don't think there's been a pub I've visited as regularly as once a month since I ceased to be a student.

These days it's rare that I'm in the same pub twice and even rarer to be in a pub more than a handful of times a year.

Restaurants ... now that's a different thing! :)
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Steve J on 23 December 2018, 07:03:32 PM
I no longer go to pubs, except for the occasional Xmas meals with friends. Our local, the Blue Bowl in Hanham, goes back to at least the English Civil War (Cromwell used it as his HQ in the siege of Bristol), but is reputed to sit on the site of a Roman inn, as it on the via Julian, a main road into Bristol.
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: jimduncanuk on 23 December 2018, 07:24:18 PM
A bit tough to answer that one when your health forces you to be teetotal.
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: d_Guy on 23 December 2018, 07:41:21 PM
Clancy's, 2004, early June.
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: paulr on 23 December 2018, 08:03:50 PM
I think the Kiwis are well out of the running on this one

The oldest stone building, and probably the oldest remaining building, in NZ is the Stone Store in Kerikeri which opened in 1836
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 23 December 2018, 08:19:55 PM
The local I grew up next to was the oldest independent brewery in the country, with a licence granted in the times of Charles I to raise revenue for the Wars
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Three_Tuns_Brewery

I used to drink in The Old Trip to Jerusalem, the oldest pub in Britain  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ye_Olde_Trip_to_Jerusalem
Although the Salutation and various others claim to be older, including the Old Fighting Cicks in St Albans.
(Techno, did you ever clear your tab at the Trip?)

My present local is the Wheatsheath, No way near as old, but a bit good. https://www.thewheatie.co.uk
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: fred. on 23 December 2018, 08:21:37 PM
I too don't think I have had a pub I frequented monthly for many years.

Strangely the local one that I have gone to most often lately, is very new, probably built in 2016, despite being called the Old Duke.
The pub nearest my house is probably from the 1890s, like much of the rest of Southport!
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Nirnman on 23 December 2018, 09:35:22 PM
Grace Neill's in Donaghadee established 1611 as the King's Arms
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: SV52 on 23 December 2018, 11:16:34 PM
https://foodanddrink.scotsman.com/drink/5-of-the-oldest-pubs-in-scotland/

'Refreshingly, there seems to be little argument over the fact that Ma Cameron's, a former coaching inn in Aberdeen, is the oldest in the city of Aberdeen. Well again, with the addition that only parts of the bar truly date back to its origins, in this case the snug bar at the front of the building which is said to be over 300 years old. Named for it's now famous matron, the eponymous Ma Cameron, the pub is also said to be one of the most haunted in Scotland.'
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Matt J on 24 December 2018, 12:18:16 AM
The Crown, building dates back to Tudor times and was a hundred house. Licensed premises since 1790, the oak above the fire place came from one of the ships of the Spanish armada.
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Last Hussar on 24 December 2018, 12:27:11 AM
Not once a month but Sunjester and I do frequent the Kings Head a few times a year
http://www.kingsheadaylesbury.co.uk
It used to be more often until I moved.

1455, in case you are wondering.
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 December 2018, 08:42:12 AM
No idea how old the Shrew is, but having seen maps of Oxton from 1800 it isnt that old, there were two farms and nowt else.
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: fsn on 24 December 2018, 10:21:57 AM
When I was at Sheffield, I used to drink in the Old Queen's Head, Pond Street.

Supposedly dates to 1475.

Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Orcs on 24 December 2018, 11:09:32 AM
Techno was a regular at the Papyrus and Dates in Alexandria around 50 BC while waiting for Cleopatra  for secret assignations. in those days it was a different form of snake rather than an Asp she was interested in.  ;)

Prior to that he used to regularly get "rat arsed" at Stone Henge during the Summer Solstice celebrations, before dancing naked round the stones   :-& :-&.  But I am not sure you can count a stone ring as a public house.  :)



Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Dr Dave on 24 December 2018, 02:27:34 PM
The Cardinal's Hat in Worcester, UK used to be one my locals. According to their website: "The Cardinal's Hat is Worcester's oldest inn and originally dates back to the fourteenth century" - but I think that's the name and location - not the current building.  :-
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Leman on 24 December 2018, 03:32:03 PM
Ineligible as I tend to drink out in Liverpool more than Formby thus cannot fit the criteria.
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 25 December 2018, 02:04:34 AM
I don't get out much now  :'( but, my old regular haunt was The Blackbird Inn, Ponteland, Nothumberland, U.K. Part of the building originated as a Border Pele Tower, sacked by the Scots in 13 something...as usual!. A Vaulted lower room, (plastered over), spiral stone staircase, tunnel to the Church, (filled in), etc. used to give me a feeling of connection to earlier days. Now...I go on the internet.  :( .

Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Techno on 25 December 2018, 08:23:10 AM
I've not been in a pub for years. (Must be 10 years, at least.)

When I worked in Nottingham, we'd sometimes go to a couple of the pubs that lay claim to being the oldest in the UK.
'Ye Olde Trip To Jerusalem' and 'Ye Olde Salutation Inn.'

Wasn't so keen on 'The Trip'...but the 'Sal' was a very pleasant hostelry .....with some amazing caves underneath the building.

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 25 December 2018, 10:02:29 AM
Quote from: Techno on 25 December 2018, 08:23:10 AM
.....with some amazing caves underneath the building.


So dat wuz were youse were dug up from !!!! ;) ;D :D
Title: Re: How old is our oldest local?
Post by: Leman on 25 December 2018, 10:07:42 AM
Used to go to those as well when I was a student at the uni. Not sure if Games Workshop was there as I graduated in 1974, but didn't wargame at all in those three years - surprise, surprise!