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Title: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 December 2018, 03:49:41 PM
Hi all,
What/which colours would you use for Scots blue bonnets (waits for Mal gif quote from Firefly, where's Harwood when you need him?);





Okay, its bonnets For highlanders and Lowlanders in the '45?
I have Cerulean (too  bright shade, but first recognised in 1590) blue, sky blue (too pure) and Luftwaffe field grey (too grey, I guess).
Any guesses? Names, brands and paint numbers would help too.
Thanks in advance.
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: Ithoriel on 21 December 2018, 04:00:59 PM
Your wish is my command :)

(https://media1.tenor.com/images/fa395dfc3172219eee7bc528b07f29b4/tenor.gif?itemid=4420482)

I imagine bonnets would turn a variety of shades of blue in a short period of time.
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: SV52 on 21 December 2018, 04:38:44 PM
In Scottish Gaeldom the commonest blue dyestuffs were:
Blaeberry (Vaccinium myrtillus) with alum or copperas
Elderberry (Sambucus nigra) with alum

Woad as a source of blue was not grown in Scotland though it would have been available for import from England - at a price, similarly indigo.

I would imagine that more or less any shade would do, impossible I reckon for anyone to state a definitive colour. 
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: T13A on 21 December 2018, 04:42:21 PM
Hi

For my 1640/50s Covenanters I simply mix a mid blue and a light blue to give various shades. I suspect that's about as close as you can get.

Cheers Paul
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 December 2018, 05:46:47 PM
That is brilliant guys, thank you.

And thank you Mike for the gif.
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: paulr on 21 December 2018, 10:48:39 PM
I use Vallejo 963 Medium Blue dry brushed with 943 Grey Blue
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 December 2018, 11:21:56 PM
Thanks Paul
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: Westmarcher on 21 December 2018, 11:27:16 PM
As has been alluded to above, you can probably get away with any shade of mid to dark blue. I'm currently using Vallejo Prussian Blue but only because I currently have it in my paint box! You could even consider colours that would represent dyes not taking, like this link below which illustrates a kind of purply blue.
http://www.antheads.co.uk/galguide/covenanter (http://www.antheads.co.uk/galguide/covenanter)
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: FierceKitty on 22 December 2018, 01:47:50 AM
I understand that fixing a blue so it keeps original brilliance is a challenge even to Scottish ingenuity. (The mordant canna' take it, Captain. I canna' alter the laws o' chemistry! )
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: paulr on 22 December 2018, 04:16:51 AM
 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: Terry37 on 22 December 2018, 08:10:51 PM
Lemmey, A good question. My take is that it would not be a single defined shade. I personally would avoid to dark of a blue, and also avoid in "brilliant" shades. I do know form research that lowland bonnets were typically larger than highland bonnets, but this is a no count in painting figures.

Terry
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: pierre the shy on 22 December 2018, 09:52:10 PM
Quote from: paulr on 21 December 2018, 10:48:39 PM
I use Vallejo 963 Medium Blue dry brushed with 943 Grey Blue

For what its worth I have just posted some pictures of the Covenant cavalry that Paul painted for me - they are in bonnets.

http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,17480.msg269270/topicseen.html#msg269270
Title: Re: Blue Bonnets...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 December 2018, 09:54:10 PM
Saw those, brilliant