I'm in my sixties now and never thought I would hear the sound of the wind on another planet.
I'm blown away. :P
That is truly awe-inspiring.
Pretty damned amazing!
Have you never listened to Hawkwind?
:o 8->
It's amazing that this little robot is sitting on another planet, just taking pics and collecting data.
I remember (just) the first moon landing. A few years later on and walking to school, it seemed surreal to look up at the moon and know that there were men on it. Now we have this and it's simply incredible. What next I wonder? Man on Mars in my lifetime?
Good stuff
Truly amazing !
I really hope NASA will send a probe to one of Jupiter's moons, (Europa to be precise) and see if there really is a liquid ocean under all that ice....and if so, see if there might be 'life' swimming around.
Whether that'll happen in my lifetime, is another matter. 8->
Cheers - Phil
So cool.
Mars, the only planet entirely populated by robots...
From a few years ago there's the sound of the Huygens probe falling through the atmosphere of Titan (https://www.esa.int/Our_Activities/Space_Science/Cassini-Huygens/Sounds_of_an_alien_world).
Quote from: mad lemmey on 09 December 2018, 10:39:43 AM
So cool.
Mars, the only planet entirely populated by robots...
Well, there's been a few landed on Venus, but they don't tend to last very long.
QuoteMars, the only planet entirely populated by robots...
That we know of Will... ;)
It's amazing
Take care
Andy
I, for one, welcome our Rogue Drone overlords :)
Wow!
Some people say I am on another planet, and my tablets give me lots of wind
Would anyone like a recording of my wind? :-&
Quote from: Orcs on 10 December 2018, 09:34:07 AM
Some people say I am on another planet, and my tablets give me lots of wind
Would anyone like a recording of my wind? :-&
Would it surpass Blazing Saddles? :-\
Quote from: d_Guy on 10 December 2018, 02:44:39 PM
Would it surpass Blazing Saddles? :-
If you were around at the right/wrong time, yes :)
And today I read where Voyager 2, launched in 1977, has officially left the heliosphere and is just a mere 11 billion miles from Earth! The next step is to enter the Oort Cloud, which it is expected to enter in 300 years and exit it in about 30,000 years. I'm not marking my calendar to see either of these last two events, but I'll let you know if I change my mind. Those of you who have smart phones, might like knowing that you have 200,000 times more power in it than either of the Voyagers!
Terry
Quote from: Terry37 on 10 December 2018, 10:22:54 PM
And today I read where Voyager 2, launched in 1977, has officially left the heliosphere and is just a mere 11 billion miles from Earth! The next step is to enter the Oort Cloud, which it is expected to enter in 300 years and exit it in about 30,000 years. I'm not marking my calendar to see either of these last two events, but I'll let you know if I change my mind. Those of you who have smart phones, might like knowing that you have 200,000 times more power in it than either of the Voyagers!
Terry
Yes the timings are quite mind boggling.
Now, if we built cars to last like that....
Voyager 2, launched in 1977, has just provided data as it crossed into inter-stellar space :o
https://www.space.com/42680-voyager-2-reaches-interstellar-space.html (https://www.space.com/42680-voyager-2-reaches-interstellar-space.html)
An interesting article
Take care
Andy
Just over 2 years ago, it was NASA's InSight. Now it's actual wind gusts recorded by Perseverance ...
Thanks for that.
Yep, really awesome. :) :) :)
But, maybe, the 'background noise' was actually their 'unshielded' electric appliances... and 'they just didn't realise...!' ;)
Could have sworn I heard, "You can't park that there mate....I'll have to give you a ticket if you don't move."
Cheers - Phil. :D
;D
Quote from: Shedman on 08 December 2018, 09:59:15 PM
Have you never listened to Hawkwind?
;D :-bd
This is still amazing.
It really is, Graham. :)
(Yes.....I have listened to Hawkiwind.....Used to have quite a few vinyl copies of their albums....Only bothered with a single CD.....Doremi-etc..Haven't listened to that for AGES.)
Cheers - Phil. :)
One more day to go before the test flight of Ingenuity, the first aircraft (helicopter, actually) on Mars, which, if successful, will make it the first powered and fully controlled atmospheric flight, from takeoff to landing, on any planet beyond Earth. Unlike on Earth, NASA won't be able to control the helicopter with a joystick because of communication delays between here and The Red Planet so the attempted take-off and flight will be entirely automatic. Here's hoping it won't be too windy! Fingers crossed.
And the fact that the atmosphere on Mars is sooooooo thin.
I'm really hoping, that before I pop my clogs.....We'll get some sort of craft on Europa....Drill through the surface ice, down to the liquid water.....(With a camera)....and see if there's any form of primitive life down there.
There will be. Trust me on this. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Quote from: Techno II on 10 April 2021, 11:07:35 AM
I'm really hoping, that before I pop my clogs.....We'll get some sort of craft on Europa....Drill through the surface ice, down to the liquid water.....(With a camera)....and see if there's any form of primitive life down there.
There will be. Trust me on this. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
I would agree
Of course - I am deeply disappointed that there isn't a Edgar Rice Burroughs style society on Mars
Quote from: Techno II on 10 April 2021, 11:07:35 AM
And the fact that the atmosphere on Mars is sooooooo thin.
I'm really hoping, that before I pop my clogs.....We'll get some sort of craft on Europa....Drill through the surface ice, down to the liquid water.....(With a camera)....and see if there's any form of primitive life down there.
There will be. Trust me on this. ;)
Cheers - Phil.
Paraniod Phil ? :P
Quote from: flamingpig0 on 10 April 2021, 11:30:42 AM
I would agree
Of course - I am deeply disappointed that there isn't a Edgar Rice Burroughs style society on Mars
We haven't checked everywhere. Imaging if alien visitors reported on Earth on the basis of landings in the Sahara, the mid-Pacific, Antarctica, and Luton....
Quote from: FierceKitty on 10 April 2021, 01:02:20 PM
We haven't checked everywhere. Imaging if alien visitors reported on Earth on the basis of landings in Luton....
Well they would then of course be devout believers in the existence of Hell :d :d
So, based on statistical evidence from the planets we've successfully landed things on - one third of planets are uninhabited, one third are inhabited by terrestrial lifeforms and one third are inhabited by robots?
Quote from: ianrs54 on 10 April 2021, 11:52:28 AM
Paraniod Phil ? :P
Hardly, Chum. ;)
But I'd get a pound to a penny that there's 'life' all over the universe.
Even on the little oblate spheroid that we call home....there are living organisms that survive and reproduce in conditions that we wouldn't have a bloomin' chance of coping with.
Aliens in 'flying saucers'.....Nah...Things like Tardigrades...(Look those up...I find those fascinating.)
Amazing little beasties.....What they can survive is unbelievable.
Cheers - Phil :)
I, for one, welcome our tardigrade overlords. :)
Quote from: FierceKitty on 10 April 2021, 01:02:20 PM
and Luton....
indeed
https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0706351/ (https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0706351/)
Tardigrales will last far longer than Homosapiens. ;)
Cheers - Phil. :)
imaginE
Quote from: Ithoriel on 10 April 2021, 02:31:39 PM
I, for one, welcome our tardigrade overlords. :)
Should this be on the requests thread?
;D ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil. :)
Flight postponed now to no earlier than April 14. :-X
Apparently some 'watchdog' timer issue when trying to transition the flight computer from 'Pre-Flight' to 'Flight' mode ....... or was it Phil's tardigrades? :-\
Quote from: Techno II on 10 April 2021, 03:16:15 PM
Tardigrales will last far longer than Homosapiens. ;)
Cheers - Phil. :)
And on present evidence will create a greater culture.
Bloody predictive texting......I assume that should have been 'create'.....
If you're too late change it yourself...gimme a shout, and I'll change it for you. ;)
Cheers - Phil. :)
Quote from: Techno II on 11 April 2021, 10:27:51 AM
If you're too late change it yourself...gimme a shout, and I'll change it for you. ;)
Cheers - Phil. :)
So the forum is about to shut down .....
Quote from: Techno II on 11 April 2021, 10:27:51 AM
Bloody predictive texting......I assume that should have been 'create'.....
If you're too late change it yourself...gimme a shout, and I'll change it for you. ;)
Cheers - Phil. :)
Brill
Done. ;)
Cheers - Phil. :)
(I'll go back and delete a couple of those posts....One day....Never....So no-one will EVER know.....apart from the fact that it'll say modified by Techno II)
Quote from: ianrs54 on 11 April 2021, 10:38:12 AM
So the forum is about to shut down .....
Oh ye of little faith.....Now
which button should I press ? ;)
Huzzah! The day is not lost! Found some footage of flying on another planet ......... perhaps ....... possibly ...... maybe ........
Quote from: Westmarcher on 11 April 2021, 04:30:39 PM
Huzzah! The day is not lost! Found some footage of flying on another planet ......... perhaps ....... possibly ...... maybe ........
It's one of dem flying Tardigradey-thinggys - dats wat it tiz - honest govnr!
Nah !
It hasn't got enough legs.
(Oh Pants.....I've forgotten what I need to click on, to copy an image, and pop it on the forum. :-[...What do I need to do ?)
Cheers - Phil. :)
Quote from: Techno II on 13 April 2021, 06:16:16 AM
(Oh Pants.....I've forgotten what I need to click on, to copy an image, and pop it on the forum. :-[...What do I need to do ?)
Cheers - Phil. :)
Get someone younger to do it for you
The annoying thing, is that I know I've managed it before....And I thought I'd done the same thing this morning.
Obviously not ! X_X
Cheers - Phil. :)
(https://cdn.mos.cms.futurecdn.net/3S7WyTUtyCPEnYxNAWQMHb-970-80.jpg.webp)
Now I know what I was doing wrong !
(Aren't they cute !)
Cheers - Phil
No they're not Phil! I won't show it to SWMBO as she would have nightmares...
Quote from: Steve J on 14 April 2021, 06:44:51 AM
No they're not Phil! I won't show it to SWMBO as she would have nightmares...
Agreed, there's something just horribly . . . odd . . . about them. No eyes and that strange mouth(?) at the front.
Tats a bl**dy big gun port on the front !
And there's probably oodles of them within a few yards of you.
Most of them are only half a mm in size, so don't have nightmares. ;) (The biggest are 1.5mm..apparently.)
I think Leon should get me to make a giant one for the sci-fi range.
Cheers - Phil. ;)
Nah. Catch one, feed it steroids, then use it as a master to mould from.
"Igor! It must be in the castle somewhere. FIND IT! Now! Before it breeds!..."
The mouth looks very symmetrical, almost as if it's engineered.
http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20150313-the-toughest-animals-on-earth (http://www.bbc.co.uk/earth/story/20150313-the-toughest-animals-on-earth)
Perhaps it's a mini-Terminator ... :-S
Na - cant be, we haven't got eletronics that small yet....
I've always thought they were bloody creepy things - despite what Star Trek Beyond or Discover or whateva led us all the believe!
Quote from: Techno II on 14 April 2021, 10:31:23 AM
And there's probably oodles of them within a few yards of you.
Most of them are only half a mm in size, so don't have nightmares. ;) (The biggest are 1.5mm..apparently.)
I think Leon should get me to make a giant one for the sci-fi range.
Cheers - Phil. ;)
What are they?
Quote from: Raider4 on 14 April 2021, 07:41:14 AM
Agreed, there's something just horribly . . . odd . . . about them. No eyes and that strange mouth(?) at the front.
Are we
sure thats the front?
I assume that 'folk' have watched them eating moss or lichen (or in some cases each other) under a microscope, so they'll know which end the mouth is. ;D ;D
Quote from: Orcs on 14 April 2021, 07:05:28 PM
What are they?
Weird/fascinating, tiny little beasties, Mark.
Cheers - Phil. :)
Quote from: Orcs on 14 April 2021, 07:05:28 PM
What are they?
Apparently they are one of the oldest continuously living creatures on this planet - evolved to 'perfection' millions of years ago and just stopped, and haven't changed since.
They can live in pretty much any and all harsh environments, even vacuum - they just seem to go into a sort of dehydrated state of stasis and will revive on contact with liquid water.
As an aside - there is some pretty odd stuff on this planet - take Sea Spiders for example.
My Dad worked for NASA (in his youth) but was a marine biologist with a speciality in sea spiders. NASA even sent him to the Antarctic for 6 months to collect the biggest types - the size of dinner plates (they live very long and grow very big down under the ice - eating sponges).
Why NASA was interested in sea spiders is that if you pick one up and immediately drop it into liquid nitrogen they freeze instantly. If you then take them out and defrost them in sea water - once they are completely thawed out they just carry on as if nothing had happened - taking the next step or next mouthful of sponge!
Of course NASA were keen to understand how they did that as it might have implications for cryogenics for long-distance space flight.
My dad got 2 years worth of salary and research grant, we moved to a nice beach house in California and he got to dive under the Antarctic ice - in special thermal dry suits - but in the end he had to come clean to NASA that the stuff that was in the sea spiders blood that allowed this was so toxic to humans that you might as well have just shot the astronauts through the head - it would have been a quicker & less painful death.
But I suspect there are plenty of other wierd stuff we just dont know about :o :o :o
I'll be the first toi admit it - I know nowt ;)
Quote from: Big Insect on 15 April 2021, 12:52:05 PM
Apparently they are one of the oldest continuously living creatures on this planet - evolved to 'perfection' millions of years ago and just stopped, and haven't changed since.
But I suspect there are plenty of other weird stuff we just don't know about :o :o :o
Weird stuff ?.....Sounds about right, Mark ;).... For all we know, they got blasted off another planet.....In a (possibly) completely different 'solar system' and managed to survive...until they hit the third rock from our own Sun.
I still think they're awesome little b*ggers.
Cheers - Phil, :)
Quote from: Big Insect on 15 April 2021, 12:52:05 PM
Apparently they are one of the oldest continuously living creatures on this planet - evolved to 'perfection' millions of years ago and just stopped, and haven't changed since.
Very much like the wargamers in my local area who still play 7th edition WRG Ancients
Quote from: flamingpig0 on 15 April 2021, 04:07:31 PM
Very much like the wargamers in my local area who still play 7th edition WRG Ancients
It's the ones still playing 5th that are a really anomaly
Like sharks - who also evolved to a 'perfect' form millions of year ago - they just keep swimming & eating, swimming & eating etc.
I've been waiting to move on from the 5th until the 7th edition was available free online.
http://www.wrg.me.uk/WRG.net/History/OLDWRG/Ancients007.pdf
They say it rewards generalship instead of grasp of the rule minutiae. Where's the fun in that?
Quote from: flamingpig0 on 15 April 2021, 04:07:31 PM
Very much like the wargamers in my local area who still play 7th edition WRG Ancients
or WRG 2nd edition Renaissance
Quote from: DecemDave on 15 April 2021, 04:53:26 PM
I've been waiting to move on from the 5th until the 7th edition was available free online.
http://www.wrg.me.uk/WRG.net/History/OLDWRG/Ancients007.pdf
They say it rewards generalship instead of grasp of the rule minutiae.
They lie
WRG was very inclined to blow its own trumpet.
Gauntlet runs/ran a very succesful 6th edition comp but the players are getting very elderly.
Quote from: ianrs54 on 16 April 2021, 06:06:24 AM
Gauntlet runs/ran a very succesful 6th edition comp but the players are getting very elderly.
I think it was Derby who had 3 or possibly 4 ancient competitions using different generations of WRG rules.
T'would be 3 - 6th, DBM and 7th.
Quote from: ianrs54 on 17 April 2021, 05:58:55 AM
T'would be 3 - 6th, DBM and 7th.
I thought they had DBMM as well but I might be misremembering.
Another attempt to be made today at 6.15 am EDT. EDT is Eastern Daylight Time in the U.S. (5 hours behind BST in the U.K.).
Here is a live link.
https://mars.nasa.gov/technology/helicopter/#Watch-Online (https://mars.nasa.gov/technology/helicopter/#Watch-Online)
Thanks for the heads up :)
... and done! <:-P =D>
Radio 4 News - It just flew for a couple of minutes
It IS really impressive.....even if it only flew for a short spell. :-bd
Cheers - Phil. :)
Well a couple of minutes is still longer than the Wright brothers, although nice that a bit of their original plane was incorporated into the Martian chopper.
Quote from: Leman on 19 April 2021, 06:13:41 PM
Well a couple of minutes is still longer than the Wright brothers, although nice that a bit of their original plane was incorporated into the Martian chopper.
So some Alien 'Archaeologist' will say "Maybe Ritual!" ;)
Quote from: Westmarcher on 10 April 2021, 10:04:22 AM
One more day to go before the test flight of Ingenuity, the first aircraft (helicopter, actually) on Mars, which, if successful, will make it the first powered and fully controlled atmospheric flight, from takeoff to landing, on any planet beyond Earth. Unlike on Earth, NASA won't be able to control the helicopter with a joystick because of communication delays between here and The Red Planet so the attempted take-off and flight will be entirely automatic. Here's hoping it won't be too windy! Fingers crossed.
It only just occurred to me that it won't be able to use GPS like the really posh drones here can.
On account of there being no halo of shiny satellites in low mars orbit (yet).
Quote from: flamingpig0 on 10 April 2021, 11:30:42 AM
I would agree
Of course - I am deeply disappointed that there isn't a Edgar Rice Burroughs style society on Mars
The little green men tried to launch an Edgar Rice Burroughs society, but recruitment proved difficult.
All the avid readers were already members of the H.G.Wells fan club.
I would think it's got a becon to link to the lander. Seem to remember that Mars has a very weak magnetic field so no mag compass.
Quote from: Raider4 on 14 April 2021, 07:41:14 AM
Agreed, there's something just horribly . . . odd . . . about them. No eyes and that strange mouth(?) at the front.
A small price to pay for immortality.
Quote from: Techno II on 14 April 2021, 10:31:23 AM
And there's probably oodles of them within a few yards of you.
Most of them are only half a mm in size, so don't have nightmares. ;) (The biggest are 1.5mm..apparently.)
I think Leon should get me to make a giant one for the sci-fi range.
Cheers - Phil. ;)
There's a sheep-sized statue of one in the Harlemmermeer (Near Amsterdam).
Those wacky provincial Netherlanders would regularly paint in in garish colours.
For context, life-size model cow painting is an established hobby there.
Many small towns and villages having a dedicated herd.
Quote from: DecemDave on 15 April 2021, 04:53:26 PM
I've been waiting to move on from the 5th until the 7th edition was available free online.
http://www.wrg.me.uk/WRG.net/History/OLDWRG/Ancients007.pdf
They say it rewards generalship instead of grasp of the rule minutiae. Where's the fun in that?
Spoiler, it doesn't.
Just a different set of rule minutiae.
Thank the tardigrades for DBA.
Quote from: ianrs54 on 16 April 2021, 06:06:24 AM
Gauntlet runs/ran a very succesful 6th edition comp but the players are getting very elderly.
They're not old, that's the effect of 12 hour's of hand-calculating 6th edition reaction tests.
Quote from: Techno II on 19 April 2021, 04:04:37 PM
It IS really impressive.....even if it only flew for a short spell. :-bd
Cheers - Phil. :)
I'm not sure that-alone constitutes success.
I prefer to concentrate on the quality of landing.
For example the USA put men on the moon, but significantly, brought them all back home again.
Every landing you walk away from is a good one! :D
Quote from: Ithoriel on 20 April 2021, 01:00:57 PM
Every landing you walk away from is a good one! :D
First rule of flying: Landings = Take-offs
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 20 April 2021, 12:09:27 PM
The little green men tried to launch an Edgar Rice Burroughs society, but recruitment proved difficult.
All the avid readers were already members of the H.G.Wells fan club.
Mars - the only planet populated entirely by robots . . .
From XKCD:
(https://imgs.xkcd.com/comics/spirit.png)
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 20 April 2021, 12:28:04 PM
Thank the tardigrades for DBA.
Proof then that Tardigrades have their own language from which our own human English has evolved!
They are also brilliant marketeers- I bought both the 3.0 book and the 3.0 which occupies much of Sue Barkers book. Duh!
Quote from: Raider4 on 20 April 2021, 01:18:01 PM
Mars - the only planet populated entirely by robots . . .
I really hope that they bring the Rover back at some point and put it in NASA headquarters for visitors. It developed a real humanity while it was active and it's final message was heartbreaking for a robot. I still think of it up there all alone and waiting for someone to come and rescue it. I keep hoping that if another robot/drone can locate it and clear the dust off the solar panels, then it might be able to get enough power to start working again.
Quote from: Leon on 20 April 2021, 08:42:47 PM
I really hope that they bring the Rover back at some point and put it in NASA headquarters for visitors. It developed a real humanity while it was active and it's final message was heartbreaking for a robot. I still think of it up there all alone and waiting for someone to come and rescue it. I keep hoping that if another robot/drone can locate it and clear the dust off the solar panels, then it might be able to get enough power to start working again.
This might be a good time to ask the gallery whether there's a market for 10mm explorer robots.
And an accompanying pack of pioneering space colonists.
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 21 April 2021, 10:15:38 AM
This might be a good time to ask the gallery whether there's a market for 10mm explorer robots.
And an accompanying pack of pioneering space colonists.
Yes we already have the Aliens to kill them. :d
But no tardigrades yet :(
Quote from: DecemDave on 21 April 2021, 11:36:44 AM
But no tardigrades yet :(
So, you want a miniature figure made at 1/150 of an animal that's only 0.5mm long in real life?
Good Point. I guess I'll just have to use scattered Mars like sand on an MDF base to represent real ones . ;)
Quote from: Raider4 on 21 April 2021, 02:50:09 PM
So, you want a miniature figure made at 1/150 of an animal that's only 0.5mm long in real life?
He isn't alone
Sci Fi terraforming on it's way...in quite a few years! :o ;D
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/science-environment-56844601
Quote from: DecemDave on 21 April 2021, 11:36:44 AM
But no tardigrades yet :(
An upscaled Tardigrade would be useful for hive mind style alien forces
OMG! If we have been sending Tardigrades into space... did NO-ONE think that they might come back... REALLY PEED OFF! :o
Actually, if they are as almost 'indiestructable' as they are made out to be... 'seeding them' just might be 'hope for some sort of 'Earth' life continuing? Might not be the 'Bigg Market'... (Well, sort of!)... but... 8)
Still feel for 'Laika'... :( :( :(
Poor Laika's story is very painful.
It is.......Was it really 1957 ? :o
Cheers - Phil
Quote from: Raider4 on 21 April 2021, 02:50:09 PM
So, you want a miniature figure made at 1/150 of an animal that's only 0.5mm long in real life?
I'd imagine the request is for a 10mm tardigrade.
Which might be what happens if you get them wet and feed them after midnight.
Quote from: Techno II on 23 April 2021, 06:27:10 AM
It is.......Was it really 1957 ? :o
Cheers - Phil
Yes it was. There is a rummor she didn't survive the take-off.
Quote from: Raider4 on 21 April 2021, 02:50:09 PM
So, you want a miniature figure made at 1/150 of an animal that's only 0.5mm long in real life?
No we want a 1/150 scale miniature of a mutant tardigrade that has grown to 10 feet tall and 20 feet long, that needs to eat meat to stay alive, either other mutant tardigrades or the nice chewy humans
And Wombles with AK's, pig faced Knights etc etc.......and didn't some one once want Aztecs ? (Meeeeeowww) :P
Quote from: Orcs on 23 April 2021, 12:27:05 PM
No we want a 1/150 scale miniature of a mutant tardigrade that has grown to 10 feet tall and 20 feet long, that needs to eat meat to stay alive, either other mutant tardigrades or the nice chewy humans
here's a possibility for the command pack.
[img width=800 https://i.imgur.com/wRmvG7Q.jpg[/img]
(https://i.imgur.com/wRmvG7Q.jpg)
Now we have REALLY p....d em off.
Scientists Fired Tardigrades Out of a Gun to See if They Can Survive Space Impacts.
https://www.sciencealert.com/tardigrades-can-survive-high-velocity-impacts-after-being-fired-from-a-gun
You know Bad Squiddo does them already!
Quote from: Lord Speedy of Leighton on 19 May 2021, 11:43:56 AM
You know Bad Squiddo does them already!
I do now thanks. 8) Had a quick look and I'd have to go skirmish games at that price. :- maybe I'll wait for the Osprey guide to come out.