Greetings!
I wonder if there are any pictures out there showcasing the standard bearers, musicians and officers from the late medieval range.
Thank you in advance,
Noktu
What ho Noktu!
Welcome to the forum.
I'm sure some bright brushman will be slap out a few piccies that will make your mouth water. Some of them may include late medieval range command.
Are you looking historically, or seeking to use them as Hyborean Aqulionians?
Welcome to the forum Noktu :-h
Do not be alarmed, not all of us are as enthusiastic as FSN aka Nobby
Welcome to the forum Noctu. No pictures unfortunately, but I can tell you that the general figure is a lovely little model astride a standing barded horse in full plate armour, visor raised on multi-plumed helmet. No shield and would suit the 1450 to 1520 period. Will make an excellent WoR, Burgundian, French or C15th Italian condotta commander. The Swiss horn blower is modelled on the Uri canton figure in a hood with horns. The drummers are unarmored playing a shallow side drum. If no pictures turn up before the evening I'll dig my unpainted ones out and post a photo.
Quote from: fsn on 16 August 2018, 06:46:57 AM
Are you looking historically, or seeking to use them as Hyborean Aqulionians?
Ahoy lads, and cheers for the warm welcome!
My greatest mistake was to start the hobby using Magister Militum miniatures, they are way bigger than Pendraken/Copplestone/TB line.
And I'm on my way to replace all armies using TB and Pendraken Miniatures.
I've been working on my "own" board game. And I'll be throwing up a post regarding that matter later on. But here's a sneak peek for you lads.
(https://preview.ibb.co/maXgD9/20180806_201230.jpg)
I'm going for fantasy/medieval theme.
Which photo posting system are you using. I have found that when you paste your copy between the (//) the third bracket disappears and has to be reinserted before posting to the forum otherwise the picture does not show. Also, I use Flickr embed which requires about 2/3 of the code to be deleted before a successful post.Somebody said I should use Flickr BB code, but I had no success with that.
Second post in this thread might be the chap your after. He's rather splendid and a joy to paint http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,7042.0.html
Quote from: Leman on 16 August 2018, 08:10:23 AM
Which photo posting system are you using.
On my phone currently, and used some fast image upload site. Normally I'd use flickr also.
Are you able to see the picture currently? It shows fine currently on my phone.
Welcome from me, as well, Noktu.
Nice work on the soldiers in the photo !!
Cheers - Phil
Looks great!
First off welcome to the Forum! I've actually got the ELM range ready to blackwash and get new photos done, so if you can drop me an email I'll send you a pic of these.
Looking good
Take care
Andy
:-bd =D> :-bd
Nice figures and basing :)
Cheers Leon, save me having to dig stuff out and photo-post, plus the backwashed photos will be of much better quality.
For reference if someone else is interested.
(https://i.imgur.com/rwwoOCKr.jpg)
EDIT: Pic resized.
Quote from: Noktu on 16 August 2018, 08:04:54 AM
My greatest mistake was to start the hobby using Magister Militum miniatures, they are way bigger than Pendraken/Copplestone/TB line.
And I'm on my way to replace all armies using TB and Pendraken Miniatures.
Interesting that you found this.
While my 10mm collection is primarily Pendraken, I've a few Magister Militum and Copplestone as well and found the MM to be nicely sized and quite compatible with both Pendraken and Copplestone. If anything, I'd say the Copplestone are on the large side, but then it also depends if you're talking historicals or fantasy, as Pendraken's fantasy stuff is quite large.
MM do admit on their site there is some "scale creep" so I wonder if you've just unfortunately picked a few models/packs which are bigger than the rest? I've been quite happy with their Fantasy Dwarfs and historical medieval humans (so far just the 15th c Billmen, but if they're any indication they are fine by me)
Quote from: Paul.B on 19 August 2018, 08:05:54 PM
Interesting that you found this.
While my 10mm collection is primarily Pendraken, I've a few Magister Militum and Copplestone as well and found the MM to be nicely sized and quite compatible with both Pendraken and Copplestone. If anything, I'd say the Copplestone are on the large side, but then it also depends if you're talking historicals or fantasy, as Pendraken's fantasy stuff is quite large.
MM do admit on their site there is some "scale creep" so I wonder if you've just unfortunately picked a few models/packs which are bigger than the rest? I've been quite happy with their Fantasy Dwarfs and historical medieval humans (so far just the 15th c Billmen, but if they're any indication they are fine by me)
The MM dwarves are great, but especially their medieval historicals are large compared to other manufacturers in my opinion, or atleast the medieval troops are "well fed" as MM's are more cartoonish. I wouldn't mix them with pendraken in same unit.
Also MM has huge size differences, their vikings look like hobbits compared to other medieval sculpts. But this is due to a different sculptor. But stay alert while ordering from MM.
Quote from: Noktu on 20 August 2018, 08:15:05 AM
The MM dwarves are great, but especially their medieval historicals are large compared to other manufacturers in my opinion, or atleast the medieval troops are "well fed" as MM's are more cartoonish. I wouldn't mix them with pendraken in same unit.
Also MM has huge size differences, their vikings look like hobbits compared to other medieval sculpts. But this is due to a different sculptor. But stay alert while ordering from MM.
Thanks for the info, I will tread with caution in future, although I was only planning on picking up a limited number of their models.
For what it's worth, here is a pic from my thread of my Pendraken and MM billmen side-by-side. The command group are all Pendraken (Elizabethan range), the chap behind the Drummer is a Pendraken Swiss Halberdier, and the chaps to his left and right, and the fella behind him, are MM 15th c. Billmen. I can see there is perhaps a tiny difference in size, but not enough IMO to look unrealistic or jarring.
(https://farm2.staticflickr.com/1771/29943832378_895a56eae8_c.jpg)
If you hadn't mentioned that, Paul......I, for one, wouldn't have noticed.
Cheers - Phil
I can't really see it. I have a load of Kallistra and MM figures that were originally going into a 10mm take on the Italian Wars, but are now destined to travel another 20 or 30 years back in time to become Italian Condottiere. Meanwhile the Pendraken and a few Warmaster Empire figures are going to become a very specific representation of Henry VIII's derring do in 1513 - so English, Scots and French. The Spanish (Pendraken Elizabethans) and a few others are now going forward in time to become armies for the early 80 Years War.
Quote from: Leman on 20 August 2018, 02:52:53 PM
I can't really see it. I have a load of Kallistra and MM figures that were originally going into a 10mm take on the Italian Wars, but are now destined to travel another 20 or 30 years back in time to become Italian Condottiere. Meanwhile the Pendraken and a few Warmaster Empire figures are going to become a very specific representation of Henry VIII's derring do in 1513 - so English, Scots and French. The Spanish (Pendraken Elizabethans) and a few others are now going forward in time to become armies for the early 80 Years War.
No doubt I wouldn't dream of using the figures together if I was going for historical accuracy, but as they're for a Warhammer Fantasy setting as Empire, which is deliberately a liberal smorgasbord of late medieval and Renaissance , it works for me :).
This is how I see the scale difference.
(https://4.bp.blogspot.com/-7E8Yp7NpMsY/WRtr2bsny5I/AAAAAAAAA6c/3eYJu6fVIBEkMsZTYtNHgMi1JSBg5zeSQCLcB/s1600/IMG_8856.JPG)
(L-R: Pendraken Dragoon kneeling, MM infantry kneeling, Kallistra Dragoon kneeling, Pendraken Dragoon standing, MM infantry standing, Kallistra dragoon standing)
Source: http://lecoqfou.blogspot.com/2017/05/pendraken-magister-militum-and.html (http://lecoqfou.blogspot.com/2017/05/pendraken-magister-militum-and.html)
EDIT: Pic resized
At least Kallistra market their figures as 12mm. I imagine some people have gone straight to them for the 1914 rules which were 'designed' for 12mm figures. Personally I dug out my languishing 15s for those rules. Perversely my 10s are used for Square Bashing, idesignedi for 15s. Ignore the Spanish exclamation marks. They have decided to turn up today for whatever reasoni
Quote from: Leman on 22 August 2018, 07:40:04 AM
At least Kallistra market their figures as 12mm. I imagine some people have gone straight to them for the 1914 rules which were 'designed' for 12mm figures. Personally I dug out my languishing 15s for those rules. Perversely my 10s are used for Square Bashing, idesignedi for 15s. Ignore the Spanish exclamation marks. They have decided to turn up today for whatever reasoni
(https://adventim.files.wordpress.com/2012/05/spanish_inquisition.jpg)
No-one expects the Spanish Exclamationiiii
;D ;D ;D