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Title: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 August 2018, 08:19:20 PM
Just for fun...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aroostook_War (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aroostook_War)
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Leman on 12 August 2018, 08:50:35 PM
What jolly japes we have had with the US over the years. Doubtless they were banging on about being a patriot again. Horrible term associated with blind nationalistic prejudice. Thank mother nature we don't have it in Britain.
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 12 August 2018, 09:15:30 PM
Quote from: Leman on 12 August 2018, 08:50:35 PM
What jolly japes we have had with the US over the years. Doubtless they were banging on about being a patriot again. Horrible term associated with blind nationalistic prejudice. Thank mother nature we don't have it in Britain.

Only because those who would write it cannot spell it.

Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Genom on 13 August 2018, 06:19:30 AM
There's an island somewhere in the northern Atlantic or maybe the Arctic that changes hands every year, presumably it must be a war because every year they invade, put up their flag (and pick up a present left for them from the other side) Can't remember the name of it, but it's very polite which makes me think it's Canada vs Norway or something.
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 August 2018, 07:46:33 AM
Denmark vs Canada
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Wulf on 13 August 2018, 07:57:11 AM
Quote from: Genom on 13 August 2018, 06:19:30 AM
There's an island somewhere in the northern Atlantic or maybe the Arctic that changes hands every year, presumably it must be a war because every year they invade, put up their flag (and pick up a present left for them from the other side)
While I believe that's literally true, 'a present' does make it sound rather suspicious...
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: SV52 on 13 August 2018, 08:54:09 AM
The Victorian period has a wealth of them.  British forces involved all over the Empire, mainly against dread enemies wielding sharpened fruit.
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Kiwidave on 13 August 2018, 09:41:13 AM
Quote from: Genom on 13 August 2018, 06:19:30 AM
There's an island somewhere in the northern Atlantic or maybe the Arctic that changes hands every year, presumably it must be a war because every year they invade, put up their flag (and pick up a present left for them from the other side) Can't remember the name of it, but it's very polite which makes me think it's Canada vs Norway or something.

https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/08/world/what-in-the-world/canada-denmark-hans-island-whisky-schnapps.html (https://www.nytimes.com/2016/11/08/world/what-in-the-world/canada-denmark-hans-island-whisky-schnapps.html)
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Sunray on 13 August 2018, 09:47:23 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 12 August 2018, 08:19:20 PM
Just for fun...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aroostook_War (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aroostook_War)

Not unique in North American history.  I remember when I worked in British Colombia, learning from First Nation of a wee US/British stand off on San Juan island in Vancouver Bay. late 1850s.  The only casualty was a pig.

I only remember it because the US commander was a certain  George Pickett - who was to make a name for himself in ACW.
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 August 2018, 10:43:50 AM
I'm sure many here know of this but, just in case, ...

"The Anglo-Zanzibar War was a military conflict fought between the United Kingdom and the Zanzibar Sultanate on 27 August 1896. The conflict lasted between 38 and 45 minutes, marking it as the shortest recorded war in history." - Wikipedia
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Ithoriel on 13 August 2018, 10:56:01 AM
While the story that Berwick remained at war with Russia after the end of the Crimean War is at best apocryphal, there have been plenty of other instances of discrepancies between the de facto and de jure cessation of hostilities

http://uk.businessinsider.com/wars-that-were-extended-by-quirks-of-diplomacy-2015-12?r=US&IR=T
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: d_Guy on 13 August 2018, 02:41:15 PM
Here is one from the history of my home state:
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Blair_Mountain

It fits into the whole history of the labor movement both in Britain and the US.
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 August 2018, 04:27:52 PM
Course the UK, and Commonwealth with Empire is still at war with the greater German Reich, mainly due to no Govt being left to negotiate with. Also the UK has not been legally at war with anyone since 1939, no declarations (Japan in 12/41 may be an exception).
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 13 August 2018, 05:38:33 PM
Quote from: Wulf on 13 August 2018, 07:57:11 AM
While I believe that's literally true, 'a present' does make it sound rather suspicious...

These are friendly nations - the Present is a bottle of the strong stuff.
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Sunray on 14 August 2018, 07:14:43 AM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 13 August 2018, 05:38:33 PM
These are friendly nations - the Present is a bottle of the strong stuff.

And as the flag raising party departs, a sly old Inuit paddles his kayak purposefully towards the lonely rock. ................Happy Hour in the igloo tonight.  :)
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: sultanbev on 10 September 2018, 09:09:37 PM
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Franco-Trarzan_War_of_1825
Apparently Trarza had a monopoly on the trade of Acacia gum with France throughout the Napoleonic wars, an essential part of the French textile industry. Anyone know what the Trarza army consisted of?

Mark
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Leman on 11 September 2018, 09:40:02 AM
Apes?
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Post by: Westmarcher on 11 September 2018, 09:48:53 AM
 #-o  #-o  #-o

:D
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: sultanbev on 11 September 2018, 03:35:32 PM
This was my estimate
Probably:
1000 camelry with spear, shield
500 Tuereg scout camelry or cavalry, spear, sword
1500 Bedu infantry irregulars, spear, sword, some shields, some slings
2000 Banzou negro infantry with sling or spear

But I was asking if case any French speaking forum members had done research on it already and knew......
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Leman on 11 September 2018, 06:26:51 PM
Non! ........as a certain large hootered general might say.
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: lentulus on 03 December 2018, 02:24:45 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 12 August 2018, 08:19:20 PM
Just for fun...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aroostook_War (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aroostook_War)

One of my friends regularly plays alt-hist scenarios with this one.
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: d_Guy on 04 December 2018, 02:51:48 PM
Quote from: Leman on 11 September 2018, 06:26:51 PM
Non! ........as a certain large hootered general might say.

A large hooting General?

(https://static1.squarespace.com/static/58ace7ee37c581bd1a655064/t/58aeffdbff7c50d53bd3f42e/1487863772380/main_900.jpg?format=600w)
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Techno on 05 December 2018, 06:52:35 AM
Quote from: d_Guy on 04 December 2018, 02:51:48 PM
A large hooting General?

Three French hens,
Two Turtle doves.....
Damn...I've forgotten the next line.  :D

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Elliesdad on 05 December 2018, 05:54:42 PM
Quote from: Techno on 05 December 2018, 06:52:35 AM
Three French hens,
Two Turtle doves.....
Damn...I've forgotten the next line.  :D

Cheers - Phil

Hmmmm.
I believe it's a tribute to a rather obscure Norwich BBC radio presenter ... "and Alan Partridge in a pear tree".
I understand he's keen on re-booting his TV career, so exactly how he has time to be climbing up fruit trees is beyond me. A ha.

Geoff
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Techno on 05 December 2018, 06:04:57 PM
AHAAA !!

(Mrs Techno.....Von, HATES that particular charachter.)

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - A Muppet.
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Ithoriel on 05 December 2018, 06:53:54 PM
I was sure the line was

"A box of cartidges for the MG" :)
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 06 December 2018, 08:24:40 PM
Quote from: Leman on 11 September 2018, 06:26:51 PM
Non! ........as a certain large hootered general might say.

Note to friends form the USA - hooters are noses on this side of the pond.

I'm sure Wellington never spoke said that.
He said, opening the Pandora's nox of generals with large noses)
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 25 August 2019, 09:17:53 PM
A more modern obscure conflict, a war between two unrecognised states.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Puntland%E2%80%93Somaliland_dispute
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 26 August 2019, 10:09:57 AM
Quote from: sultanbev on 11 September 2018, 03:35:32 PM
This was my estimate
Probably:
1000 camelry with spear, shield
500 Tuereg scout camelry or cavalry, spear, sword
1500 Bedu infantry irregulars, spear, sword, some shields, some slings
2000 Banzou negro infantry with sling or spear

But I was asking if case any French speaking forum members had done research on it already and knew......


It is worth considering whether the locals have adopted firearms in any significant quantity.

Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: mmcv on 26 August 2019, 08:04:05 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 12 August 2018, 08:19:20 PM
Just for fun...
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aroostook_War (https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aroostook_War)

Quote2 injured (by neutral bears)

The implication here being there are also bears out there that haven't declared their neutrality? For whom do they fight?
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: toxicpixie on 28 August 2019, 07:42:23 AM
Why, the British Empire by crikey!

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojtek_(bear) (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wojtek_(bear))
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 28 August 2019, 09:02:22 AM
Against the goblins:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beorn (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Beorn)
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 October 2019, 03:11:58 PM
An interesting fight.
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Battle_of_Guningtou
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 12 November 2019, 06:59:53 PM
The Lobster War
No casualties, a perfect war?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster_War
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: toxicpixie on 12 November 2019, 07:14:49 PM
I feel bad for the lobsters!
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Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 13 November 2019, 07:58:57 AM
Bet they tasted nice though !
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: toxicpixie on 13 November 2019, 09:49:48 AM
I like a little buttered lobster, but I find I feel very sorry for them these days.

They're too cute!
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: d_Guy on 13 November 2019, 01:28:24 PM
Cute!? Dude, they're a cross between a spider and a backhoe!  :D
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Post by: toxicpixie on 13 November 2019, 01:31:48 PM
But the little feely antenna and the moogly eyes!
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Techno on 13 November 2019, 04:56:59 PM
This must be the only miniatures forum that can ask about wars we have never heard of......and end up talking about tasty crustaceans.

OK...I'll join in....Only eaten lobster once....It was very nice.
Crab meat.....Love the taste....But I must be somewhat 'allergic' to it.

Both times I've eaten crab, I've thoroughly enjoyed the taste....BUT.....You don't want to know.
I'll never eat crab again.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Big Insect on 13 November 2019, 06:02:38 PM
Not quite as obscure as it sounds ... The War of Jenkin's Ear : https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/War_of_Jenkins%27_Ear
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 13 November 2019, 06:56:54 PM
The Turbot War
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Turbot_War
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 13 November 2019, 07:56:20 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 12 November 2019, 06:59:53 PM
The Lobster War
No casualties, a perfect war?
https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lobster_War

South American wars have the best names:

War of the Pacific.
Football War.
Guano War.

and my personal favourite, the Ragamuffin War.
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: FierceKitty on 14 November 2019, 12:31:30 AM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 13 November 2019, 07:56:20 PM
South American wars have the best names:

War of the Pacific.
Football War.
Guano War.

and my personal favourite, the Ragamuffin War.

You'll have to give us the stories that go with the titles now.
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Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 14 November 2019, 08:46:49 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 14 November 2019, 12:31:30 AM
You'll have to give us the stories that go with the titles now.

OK...

Saltpetre War - War of the Pacific: 1879 - 84

Chile Vs Peru + Bolivia
Chile grabbed a nitrate rich portion of the Atacama Desert.

Chincha Islands War - Guano War 1864-66

Spain Vs Peru, Chile, Ecuador, Bolivia.
A Spanish Naval force fails to annex the bird-poop rich Chincha Islands


Football War -Soccer War for those North of the Rio Grande: 1969
El Salvador Vs Honduras.
Tensions that date back to the Banana Wars erupt after an ill tempered World Cup Qualifying game.
Scenes that make Luton Vs Millwall fixtures look like a Vicar's tea party.
Also known as the 100 hours war.

Ragamuffin War 1835-45

Republican uprising of 2 "Gaucho" states in Brazil.
Ragamuffin (Which I through was a Jamaican word) refers to the fringed leather capes worn by the Gaucho/Vaquero rebels.
Rebel leaders included Guiseppe Garibaldi.




Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Westmarcher on 14 November 2019, 09:18:26 AM
Isn't it ironic that we've all heard of The Secret War?
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Post by: Dr Dave on 14 November 2019, 11:56:48 AM
If the snowflakes get their way then you can add WW2. It's just too upsetting.   8)
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: toxicpixie on 14 November 2019, 04:27:08 PM
QuoteFootball War -Soccer War for those North of the Rio Grande: 1969
El Salvador Vs Honduras.
Tensions that date back to the Banana Wars erupt after an ill tempered World Cup Qualifying game.
Scenes that make Luton Vs Millwall fixtures look like a Vicar's tea party.
Also known as the 100 hours war.

That's the one see's Mustangs fighting Corsairs, isn't it?

The joy of the Monroe Doctrine and keeping the Americas safe for United Fruit's profit margin is you get to see a lot of interesting american kit fighting other interesting American kit!
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 14 November 2019, 04:41:08 PM
Yes, I have them from Tumbling Dice, you also get the opportunity to try bombing an oil refinery by throwing a crate of dynamite out the side door of a DC3!!!
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 14 November 2019, 06:21:56 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 14 November 2019, 04:41:08 PM
Yes, I have them from Tumbling Dice, you also get the opportunity to try bombing an oil refinery by throwing a crate of dynamite out the side door of a DC3!!!

Don't try that at home kids.
Title: Re: Wars We Have Never Heard Of...
Post by: mollinary on 14 November 2019, 06:41:10 PM
Quote from: steve_holmes_11 on 14 November 2019, 06:21:56 PM
Don't try that at home kids.

No indeed. Always use a DC7!