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Title: Landsknechts
Post by: SV52 on 08 August 2018, 12:15:25 PM
Got a few as a tester; organ gun and crew, pikmen, swordsmen, halberdiers, command group and arquebusiers:

(https://i.imgur.com/Iw7ofaO.jpg)
(https://i.imgur.com/vPycl4U.jpg)

Wouldn't do an entire regiment but might do a couple of companies.  Showing their age, well below the current sculpt standard.  The drummer has to be my favourite.
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 August 2018, 12:17:25 PM
Nice job on those, I do agree, but they do mix well with the Flodden and medieval ranges..
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: petercooman on 08 August 2018, 12:59:02 PM
Lovely colours!
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: FierceKitty on 08 August 2018, 01:15:10 PM
Aren't the chaps over on the right matchlockmen? There's a very unambiguous figure carrying a sword in front of him, two-handed.
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: d_Guy on 08 August 2018, 01:29:15 PM
I like seeing some of them painted up, SV52, thanks. I have samples as well but not yet sure how to use them. Bright colors seem to be the way.

Kitty, I think they can rightly be called Arquibusiers since at that time it was a more generic term than say a hundred(?) years later. Matchlock is obviously correct as well.
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: FierceKitty on 08 August 2018, 01:31:04 PM
Quote from: d_Guy on 08 August 2018, 01:29:15 PM
I like seeing some of them painted up, SV52, thanks. I have samples as well but not yet sure how to use them. Bright colors seem to be the way.

Kitty, I think they can rightly be called Arquibusiers since at that time it was a more generic term than say a hundred(?) years later. Matchlock is obviously correct as well.

My point is that they're not swordsmen. Wasn't quibbling over the name of the weapon. It looks as if the figures furthest on the right have been painted carrying a blade in their right hands, unless my ageing eyes have betrayed me.
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: SV52 on 08 August 2018, 02:52:06 PM
Thanks guys.

The group on the right are what's listed as Arquebusiers (LAN5), the weapon is not sculpted very well and the pose is not really suited to the period or weapon, tends in my opinion to be a bit too 'modern'.

Early matchlock gun is probably the best description or pick from harquebus, hacquebut, hagbutt, hachbuss, caliver or umpteen other regional descriptions.  What it isn't is a musket, they came later and were longer, heavier and fired from the shoulder with or without a rest.  The Spanish Tercios used both what they termed arquebuses and muskets later in the 16th century.

The swordsmen are one either side of the flag wagger, the original purpose of these guys (or so I've read) was as colour guards.  I've depicted these as from the early 1500's.

Bright colours are the way with these fellas, it's what they were known for and took pride in, in direct competition to the contemporary Swiss.

Maybe the lords of misrule in Pendraken Towers might some day bring out a new range; I'll be well past it by then though.  :D
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: d_Guy on 08 August 2018, 03:57:19 PM
Oh. I see, Kitty. Makes perfect sense now (I was scanning for a different figure in the pike block with a two handed sword - just assumed I couldn't see it).  I've mentioned before that English is not my first language.  :)
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: Paul.B on 08 August 2018, 06:21:48 PM
Nice colours  :). I still like these sculpts, have you thought about mixing them with Warmonger's Landsknechts? That's what I'm planning to do anyway.
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: SV52 on 08 August 2018, 07:13:32 PM
Quote from: Paul.B on 08 August 2018, 06:21:48 PM
Nice colours  :). I still like these sculpts, have you thought about mixing them with Warmonger's Landsknechts? That's what I'm planning to do anyway.

Yup, very nice figures there from Warmonger.  Shame abouit the cost, too much for me at $10 for 30 plus $15 shipping.

U.K. agent anyone?

Apologies if another version of this turns up, says posted but wasn't, so did a repeat. ???
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: Leman on 08 August 2018, 08:28:33 PM
I had a game this morning set approx 1505 - the Landsknecht arquebusiers played a prominent role, and I did ask if they were swordsmen until I looked more closely and realised the weapon was shouldered with the barrel facing outwards. Personally I think these arquebusiers are more suited to post-1550. They don't look like any interpretation of early Italian Wars that I have ever seen. I shall be employing my own (currently unpainted) in an early 80 Years War army.
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: Techno on 09 August 2018, 05:25:13 AM
Looking fine, to me.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: Paul.B on 11 August 2018, 09:29:13 PM
Quote from: SV52 on 08 August 2018, 07:13:32 PM
Yup, very nice figures there from Warmonger.  Shame abouit the cost, too much for me at $10 for 30 plus $15 shipping.

U.K. agent anyone?

Apologies if another version of this turns up, says posted but wasn't, so did a repeat. ???

I agree the cost is a bit steep and it would be nice to see a UK supplier. At the current price I wouldn't build a whole army out of them, but I would go for a pack or two to mix with Pendraken's to add a bit of variety  :)
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 12 August 2018, 12:25:06 AM
Quote from: SV52 on 08 August 2018, 07:13:32 PM
Yup, very nice figures there from Warmonger.  Shame abouit the cost, too much for me at $10 for 30 plus $15 shipping.

U.K. agent anyone?

Apologies if another version of this turns up, says posted but wasn't, so did a repeat. ???

Agreed, what's not to like about pluderhosen  :D. No consolation to anybody but the postage to Australia is even slightly higher
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: SV52 on 12 August 2018, 09:31:18 AM
we'll just have to hope  :D
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: Leman on 12 August 2018, 02:16:37 PM
Do they match though, or are they big blighters like some of the Kallistra ranges.
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: Womble67 on 12 August 2018, 11:35:29 PM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Landsknechts
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 13 August 2018, 12:49:20 AM
Quote from: Leman on 12 August 2018, 02:16:37 PM
Do they match though, or are they big blighters like some of the Kallistra ranges.

Picture I've found with Warmonger and Pendraken Elizabethan (from https://operationwargaming.blogspot.com/2014/09/pikemen-comparison.html (https://operationwargaming.blogspot.com/2014/09/pikemen-comparison.html)) so height ok but definitely chunkier:-

(https://1.bp.blogspot.com/-R2DgJgQoHN8/VCOS3ZJBF_I/AAAAAAAAC3w/EP9bWG5wXMs/s1600/IMG_1348.jpg)