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Title: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 22 June 2018, 06:03:33 PM
At work, using apprentices I've designed and built a ww1 male tank with a colleague at work, its approx 1,100mm long, 820mm high.  Spur of the moment at work on Tuesday(College last week of term).  Hopefully Leon reads this and can put up the picture I emailed him(just asked him nicely).  This shows it without the sponsons, nearly finished those today - the development work on the shapes slowed me down - I'll get another picture on Tuesday.  Its made from 1mm low carbon steel plate using my template and pattern development skills :D

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dr Dave on 22 June 2018, 06:10:35 PM
Brilliant!  :o
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: jimduncanuk on 22 June 2018, 06:16:05 PM
Definitely needs a picture.
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 June 2018, 06:43:21 PM
And this is why Dave is cool!
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: mollinary on 22 June 2018, 07:11:29 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 22 June 2018, 06:43:21 PM
And this is why Dave is cool!

Only one reason why Dave is so cool -
we all have thousands of other reasons in our own collections!
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Leon on 22 June 2018, 07:39:40 PM
I've added the image now.
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: paulr on 22 June 2018, 08:50:07 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>

Quote from: mollinary on 22 June 2018, 07:11:29 PM
Only one reason why Dave is so cool -
we all have thousands of other reasons in our own collections!

Seconded
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Steve J on 22 June 2018, 09:18:12 PM
Great work 8)
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dr Dave on 23 June 2018, 08:56:33 AM
What a cracking project. If just ONE of those apprentices goes off to learn a bit more about her then you done a wonderful job.

To paraphrase Haig: "She's lovely. I'll take a thousand".
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 26 June 2018, 03:32:20 PM
The latest the right hand sponson has now been completed, left hand side to do. :D

Dave

(https://scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36233520_10155843766637858_1422201673299787776_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&_nc_eui2=AeECKT5RLfhKIXcz8qup9jpKQqcWyeTL-7h_DEjAXFb0eqd28KcD39DD2tnxI7wYLxdzv1i0YB3tsDQ8_uStK-ZbgTEWdeGQrQ--tmPbRFhLAw&oh=35a246799973bdc9312dadba7324a44f&oe=5B9E4D18)
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 June 2018, 04:04:21 PM
Superb!
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: fred. on 26 June 2018, 04:29:13 PM
Really looking the business now.
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: paulr on 26 June 2018, 07:36:41 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 27 June 2018, 06:07:00 AM
Another  unwanted example of giant-ism

Cool  :D :D
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: pierre the shy on 27 June 2018, 08:09:52 AM
 Brilliant  :)

A 1.1m long tank would certainly be an imposing site on your average games table....or are you planning on running an outdoor 1/6 scale refight of Cambrai?
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 27 June 2018, 12:15:21 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 26 June 2018, 04:04:21 PM
Superb!

Cheers, we are using washers etc to approximate different features on the tank, need two lewis guns to complete the model.  Nearly finished other sponson.

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 27 June 2018, 12:16:22 PM
Quote from: Steve J on 22 June 2018, 09:18:12 PM
Great work 8)

Thanks, it looks the biz, just got to be careful not to over detail it.

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 06 July 2018, 04:05:44 PM
Latest pics of the tank finished detailing the back just some extra work on the sides to finish off and then off to the paint shop.

Dave


(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36725259_10155865672797858_8856609549495304192_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1be040cf3fc49cbdf32d9879d0bcba90&oe=5BE0CEB4)

(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/36754171_10155865672907858_1750777138279088128_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=68e12c2672504be3657bd4ef0529a20c&oe=5B9E6A92)

Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: fsn on 06 July 2018, 05:23:09 PM
a) Very good work. Look forward to seeing it painted.
b) How heavy is it? Looks solid.
c) When will it be motorised? 
d) This isn't going in the painting competition is it? I mean I suppose it's a Pendraken product ...
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: paulr on 06 July 2018, 10:50:14 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 07 July 2018, 08:07:18 AM
Superb
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 07 July 2018, 08:44:44 AM
Quote from: fsn on 06 July 2018, 05:23:09 PM
a) Very good work. Look forward to seeing it painted.
b) How heavy is it? Looks solid.
c) When will it be motorised? 
d) This isn't going in the painting competition is it? I mean I suppose it's a Pendraken product ...

I'm looking forward to seeing it painted, its hollow made from 1mm low carbon steel. 
It won't be motorised that needs doing at the start with machining work and I would have to look at a bike chain type system for the drive.
For the painting competition I could reduce the photograph size ;)

Thanks for the comments, I've got the basics for the diorama started a old school table, extended the width to 900mm and kept the length at 1500.  Any ideas for making the terrain I was thinking of sand based paint with extra sand and PVA glue added?

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Techno on 07 July 2018, 09:28:12 AM
The one true scale ?......Pah !!

Really is rather special, Dave....Great work !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Leon on 09 July 2018, 04:29:13 PM
The tanks complete its gone off to the body shop for titivating and painting, will get a pic once its undercoated 8) 8)

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Leman on 09 July 2018, 08:13:36 PM
That looks superb. It looks like it should be on a monument at Cambrai.
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: fsn on 10 July 2018, 06:33:55 AM
By my calculations, a 6' tall crewman would be just shy of 10' tall, and a 5'6" crewman would be about 9' tall ...

Techno! Oh Techno! Bit of a challenge for you.
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Techno on 10 July 2018, 07:55:28 AM
If Leon provides me with all the green stuff....I'll give it a go. (No, I won't !)

(Last time I made some 90mm tall figures, so they could be pantographed down for 30mm 'plastics', was the only time I had an allergy to the epoxy in green stuff. Mind you, I was mixing handfuls of the putty.)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Ithoriel on 10 July 2018, 09:30:34 AM
Quote from: fsn on 10 July 2018, 06:33:55 AM
By my calculations, a 6' tall crewman would be just shy of 10' tall, and a 5'6" crewman would be about 9' tall ...

Techno! Oh Techno! Bit of a challenge for you.

10 FOOT tall!!? Techno, you're gonna need a bigger shaper :D
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Techno on 10 July 2018, 10:50:43 AM
I'd noticed that, Mike.  ;)

It'd cost **** knows...... Just for the green stuff......and it'd never fit in a mould.  ;D ;D ;D

I think Nobby has confused ' with ".  ;D ;D ;D ;D

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 13 July 2018, 01:32:22 PM
Latest pics, Craig from the paint shop has cleaned the rust off the steel and put a coat of grey zinc based primer on the tank.  Hope to get the next images midweek :)

Dave
(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37048488_10155879925212858_2146455020512477184_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=0c35253778ac81b60a77f34d138b2b3b&oe=5BDA1AF1)

(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37027442_10155879925092858_8339604553456418816_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=dcb94f85519dce3f890bb87c8799770f&oe=5BD64CC5)
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: paulr on 13 July 2018, 08:50:39 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 17 July 2018, 06:44:29 PM
Hope to get a picture of the tank, after research on the net, comments from the tank museum land ships etc, I've gone for my mark 4 in brown, black tracks.  so trip to halfords for the best colour to match milk chocolate.  Leon's got the pic :D(error occurred going to my address >:().  To add are the white red white strips and I think letters.  Started display with a 900mm section of rolled barded wire, base marked out ready for tank and shell holes and part of a trench system.

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: fsn on 17 July 2018, 06:55:07 PM
A name, Sir! It must have a Name!

"Fray Bentos" would be stirring in it's ... trench?
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: mollinary on 17 July 2018, 07:11:51 PM
A name is a great idea! I set out to try and find some authentic ones with a variety of searches. I came across landships  - home a google site, which has everything you could ever want about WW1 British tanks, including known names, with serial numbers and tank types, in alphabetical order!  Wow!
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 17 July 2018, 07:56:19 PM
Quote from: fsn on 17 July 2018, 06:55:07 PM
A name, Sir! It must have a Name!

"Fray Bentos" would be stirring in it's ... trench?

What about 'dodgy dave' ;)

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: fsn on 17 July 2018, 08:06:34 PM
Surely the only name would be "Milady"?
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Ithoriel on 17 July 2018, 10:29:04 PM
Take your pick

https://sites.google.com/site/landships/home/lists/lists-of-world-war-one-tanks-by-name

Sadly, neither Milady nor Dodgy Dave seem to be recorded as potential names :(

I do like the sound of

"Dominion" a Mark V which on 8-Aug-18 attacked with a piper playing on its roof!
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: paulr on 18 July 2018, 12:18:05 AM
Kia Ora 19 Apr 17 – f, "Gaza" tank -  2Lt Winder – 155 brig – Attacked Outpost Hill, developed Mechanical trouble and returned safely

Gets my vote even if the wrong 'gender' ;)
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 18 July 2018, 05:48:30 PM


Latest pics and diorama :D

(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37265100_10155891417297858_4362455272468250624_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=1a7e3ee9ee49b9d9f237738ce545afed&oe=5BE085AD)

(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/37271728_10155891418232858_4773324776150138880_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=3651ddb7578d099ab4915caf3e892815&oe=5BDC7CD9)
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: fsn on 18 July 2018, 06:42:50 PM
Looking very ... chocolatey.

Two questions: Have you decided on a name? What are you going to do with it when it's finished?

Sorry three questions: What's the next project? These riveted hulls are fine, but have you thought about something with a cast hull?
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 18 July 2018, 06:51:26 PM
Quote from: fsn on 18 July 2018, 06:42:50 PM
Looking very ... chocolatey.

Two questions: Have you decided on a name? What are you going to do with it when it's finished?

Sorry three questions: What's the next project? These riveted hulls are fine, but have you thought about something with a cast hull?

First question, on display at College, then in Darlington Cornmill for the 100th armistice? as I understand at this moment?

I can fabricate a component to look like a cast hull.  My colleague has said why don't we build a tiger tank!!!!!!!! shall I talk him out of that and suggest another post war tank?

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 18 July 2018, 06:53:37 PM
Quote from: Dave on 18 July 2018, 06:51:26 PM
First question, on display at College, then in Darlington Cornmill for the 100th armistice? as I understand at this moment?

I can fabricate a component to look like a cast hull.  My colleague has said why don't we build a tiger tank!!!!!!!! shall I talk him out of that and suggest another post war tank?

Dave

Missed the name, yes but don't know, at mercy of paint department,  chocolaty colour describe by curator at Bovington and paint found internally on the Brussels MK4.

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: fsn on 18 July 2018, 08:08:28 PM
Chocolate is a very good colour for a WWI tank. You could name it "Dairy Milk"*

Not a Tiger, please!  =) Crusader would be fun - all angles, or a M3 Lee? Dingo, Daimler or Humber a/c?

... perhaps I should let you finish this one first.


Sorry.  :-[



* I still prefer "Milady".
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: OldenBUA on 19 July 2018, 05:07:48 AM
Who are you and what have you done with Nobby?

Dave mentioned 'another postwar tank' and come up with this??!!
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 24 July 2018, 06:27:07 PM
The base is done, papermache work finished and I did my own basetex mix (needed a lot) with left over emulsion paint -  egg shell blue, watered PVA and sand from the construction department.  I've fastened the barbed wire into position making it look like the tanks going over the top.  I need brown spray paint to paint the base and highlight and pour gel into the creates to create pools of water.

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 24 July 2018, 06:27:48 PM
Quote from: Dave on 24 July 2018, 06:27:07 PM
The base is done, papermache work finished and I did my own basetex mix (needed a lot) with left over emulsion paint -  egg shell blue, watered PVA and sand from the construction department.  I've fastened the barbed wire into position making it look like the tanks going over the top.  I need brown spray paint to paint the base and highlight and pour gel into the creates to create pools of water.

Dave
should be crators
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 July 2018, 06:50:13 PM
Looking good
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Post by: paulr on 24 July 2018, 07:24:17 PM
Sounding good ;)
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 11 August 2018, 10:13:56 AM
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155961562492858&set=a.10155843767632858.1073741826.677792857&type=3)

latest tank with diorama completed

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 11 August 2018, 10:15:39 AM
Quote from: Dave on 11 August 2018, 10:13:56 AM
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155961562492858&set=a.10155843767632858.1073741826.677792857&type=3)

latest tank with diorama completed


I've forgotten how to link from facebook weres leon when you need him!!!!!
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 11 August 2018, 10:17:14 AM
Quote from: Dave on 11 August 2018, 10:13:56 AM
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155961562492858&set=a.10155843767632858.1073741826.677792857&type=3)

latest tank with diorama completed

Dave

(https://scontent.flhr4-2.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/38775101_10155961562497858_1242028538261929984_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=df233cd643269360a92878968ee6924b&oe=5BF6D605)
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Dave on 11 August 2018, 10:21:07 AM
Quote from: Dave on 11 August 2018, 10:13:56 AM
(https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10155961562492858&set=a.10155843767632858.1073741826.677792857&type=3)

latest tank with diorama completed

Dave

I've just had a rush of blood shall i do three of these  British and three German tanks and have a battle in the garden :( :o :o :o :o

Dave
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 11 August 2018, 10:54:21 AM
I'd seek medical help Dave !!!  ;) :D ;D
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 11 August 2018, 11:26:31 AM
Nah, I would seek a bigger garden, that is fabulous
Title: Re: ww1 tank building
Post by: Techno on 11 August 2018, 06:22:48 PM
Does look rather spiffy !!  :-bd

Cheers - Phil