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Title: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: petercooman on 06 June 2018, 12:52:13 PM
So, as i sit here, filing the bases flat on a bunch of minis (some ww2 and acw additions i bought a while ago), i was remembering how much i hate this stage of the process (nothing to do with the minis, there is very little flash, it's just i job i hate)

so just a silly question? What do you guys do while prepping figures to ease the pain?

I listen to music or a book, but still it doesn't take away that feeling!
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Glorfindel on 06 June 2018, 01:09:46 PM
I only prep and paint one pack at a time so this doesn't cause
too much aggro.

If I needed to prep many, many figures, I might listen to a
history or wargaming podcast (so that I can remember why
this seemed like such a good idea at the time !).



Phil


Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: FierceKitty on 06 June 2018, 01:40:26 PM
Opera has a real value while doing figures up, if you're a music lover.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Ithoriel on 06 June 2018, 01:58:27 PM
Music for me too, though it's more likely Selina Gomez, Katy Perry, Demi Lovato, Rihanna or Taylor Swift than some operatic dirge.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 06 June 2018, 02:05:56 PM
Lots of swearing, but then my current project is some 20 English ships for the anglo-dutch wars, RIGGING ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH  =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: petercooman on 06 June 2018, 02:10:45 PM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 06 June 2018, 02:05:56 PM
Lots of swearing, but then my current project is some 20 English ships for the anglo-dutch wars, RIGGING ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH  =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O

That's a bigger pain then mine!
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Norm on 06 June 2018, 03:08:32 PM
I just put my head down and go for it, with a high regard for the blade and a wary positioning of my fingers! but I do fairly low numbers at a time, perhaps 32 figures, so it is soon over!
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: fsn on 06 June 2018, 03:33:18 PM
Audiobook or radio mostly.

That, and self induced trance state.

I find the movement from the "to be done" to the "done" pile very theraputic.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: SV52 on 06 June 2018, 04:37:37 PM
Music for me too but good stuff, not this contemporary noisy tripe.  Prussian and Austrian marches fit nicely.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: paulr on 06 June 2018, 05:48:41 PM
Quote from: fsn on 06 June 2018, 03:33:18 PM
I find the movement from the "to be done" to the "done" pile very theraputic.

Seconded
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: mollinary on 06 June 2018, 06:17:51 PM
Quote from: petercooman on 06 June 2018, 12:52:13 PM
So, as i sit here, filing the bases flat on a bunch of minis (some ww2 and acw additions i bought a while ago), i was remembering how much i hate this stage of the process (nothing to do with the minis, there is very little flash, it's just i job i hate)

so just a silly question? What do you guys do while prepping figures to ease the pain?

I listen to music or a book, but still it doesn't take away that feeling!

You are supposed to prep the figures! ?  :o :o :o :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: petercooman on 06 June 2018, 07:09:19 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 06 June 2018, 06:17:51 PM

You are supposed to prep the figures! ?  :o :o :o :'( :'( :'(


They don't stand flat if you don't file the bases down!

Quote from: Norm on 06 June 2018, 03:08:32 PM
I just put my head down and go for it, with a high regard for the blade and a wary positioning of my fingers! but I do fairly low numbers at a time, perhaps 32 figures, so it is soon over!

Maybe that's the problem. I do them all at once!

I am dreading the day i start cleaning and assemby on all those 28mm guys i bought from warlord games. 14 plastic sets to go! and a smattering of artillery packs and some blokes from the perry brothers as well
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: ErHo on 06 June 2018, 09:48:05 PM
Podcasts and Music!
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: d_Guy on 06 June 2018, 09:49:12 PM
Mollinary  :-bd
I don't always prep but when I do:
As others have said I also work in small battalion batches (which for me in 10mm is only 24 figures!). I don't worry at all about the mold seams (usually not noticeable in Pendraken anyway) but get the base bottoms flat and trim flash off sharp pointy bits. Listen to lots of different Scottish and Irish folk and switch of occasionally to Meatloaf and Pink Floyd, a few other 60's and 70's rock now and then.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: FierceKitty on 07 June 2018, 01:21:34 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 06 June 2018, 02:05:56 PM
Lots of swearing, but then my current project is some 20 English ships for the anglo-dutch wars, RIGGING ARGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGH  =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O =O

We don't often agree (in the same way that butchers in Tel Aviv don't often sell bacon), but this time you have my sympathy!
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Post by: fsn on 07 June 2018, 06:40:35 AM
Quote from: petercooman on 06 June 2018, 07:09:19 PM
They don't stand flat if you don't file the bases down!
Dremel.

I'm now a two Dremel person (I inherited the 2nd) - one for drilling, one for scraping bottoms.

Does life get any sweeter?
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: d_Guy on 07 June 2018, 12:57:08 PM
Quote from: fsn on 07 June 2018, 06:40:35 AM
Dremel.

I'm now a two Dremel person (I inherited the 2nd) - one for drilling, one for scraping bottoms.

Does life get any sweeter?


You could have a third with a cutting wheel.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Subedai on 07 June 2018, 02:48:18 PM
With an 8 inch bastard file leveling bases flat takes no time at all. Plus for quiet solace and contemplation on the cosmic all I listen to such musical luminaries as Blind Guardian, Rammstein, Gloryhammer, Sabaton -very historical their music- AC/DC et al.

Not long found out that Mott the Hoople are at Ramblin Man at the end of June. RESULT!!!!! Play me cards right I might even get to interview who's left of them. :)
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: petercooman on 07 June 2018, 04:09:26 PM
Quote from: Subedai on 07 June 2018, 02:48:18 PM
With an 8 inch bastard file leveling bases flat takes no time at all. Plus for quiet solace and contemplation on the cosmic all I listen to such musical luminaries as Blind Guardian, Rammstein, Gloryhammer, Sabaton -very historical their music- AC/DC et al.

Not long found out that Mott the Hoople are at Ramblin Man at the end of June. RESULT!!!!! Play me cards right I might even get to interview who's left of them. :)

Don't forget manowar. Battle hymn was practically made for us wargamers!
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Subedai on 07 June 2018, 07:41:17 PM
Quote from: petercooman on 07 June 2018, 04:09:26 PM
Don't forget manowar. Battle hymn was practically made for us wargamers!

Hmmm, interesting. Haven't heard of them before but so far, not too bad. Definitely racked up the old volume on the drums.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: petercooman on 07 June 2018, 08:27:39 PM
May i suggest by Manowar:

power of my sword
demon's whip
ride the dragon
dark avenger
bridge of death
the power
the gods made heavy metal
!blood of my enemies!

Also, if you like drums, then "drums of doom" might please as well.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Subedai on 07 June 2018, 08:51:14 PM
Quote from: petercooman on 07 June 2018, 08:27:39 PM
May i suggest by Manowar:

power of my sword
demon's whip
ride the dragon
dark avenger
bridge of death
the power
the gods made heavy metal
!blood of my enemies!

Also, if you like drums, then "drums of doom" might please as well.


Just got them up on Spotify, will give them a good listen.

Yep, I always wanted to be a drummer when I was a younger but real life got in the way. However, amongst his many talents, my youngest lad is a drummer and played Jerry Allison in the Buddy Holly Story in the West End a few years ago. He also played Mick Avory from the Kinks in Sunny Afternoon, another West End production. He's a talented git.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Subedai on 07 June 2018, 08:53:25 PM
The drumming is quite good on the tracks from a group called Soar (pronounced Shore) Patrol, a Scottish heavy rock band that uses pipes and drums to great effect.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: d_Guy on 07 June 2018, 11:34:35 PM
I believe you (or maybe Westie or Ithoriel) first mention Soar Patrol to me - excellent walking music - drives you right along.
Also:
I am a man who walks alone
And when I'm walking a dark road
At night or strolling through the park

When the light begins to change
I sometimes feel a little strange
A little anxious when it's dark.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: John Cook on 08 June 2018, 01:26:25 AM
I bought a small grinding wheel from Screwfix some months ago.  Well worth the £20 quid it cost.  It speeds up the process and takes all (most) of the grief out of it.  You can also do your nails at the same time.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: petercooman on 08 June 2018, 03:23:50 AM
Quote from: d_Guy on 07 June 2018, 11:34:35 PM
I believe you (or maybe Westie or Ithoriel) first mention Soar Patrol to me - excellent walking music - drives you right along.
Also:
I am a man who walks alone
And when I'm walking a dark road
At night or strolling through the park

When the light begins to change
I sometimes feel a little strange
A little anxious when it's dark.

Fear of the dark, fear of the dark!
I have a constant fear that something' always near!!

Excellent choice  ;)
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Post by: Kiwidave on 08 June 2018, 03:32:27 AM
Isn't the title of that song Fear of the Duck?  ;)
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Post by: FierceKitty on 08 June 2018, 05:29:12 AM
Do not underestimate the power of the Duck Side.   ;D
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: d_Guy on 08 June 2018, 02:36:09 PM
Quote from: John Cook on 08 June 2018, 01:26:25 AM
I bought a small grinding wheel from Screwfix some months ago.  Well worth the £20 quid it cost.  It speeds up the process and takes all (most) of the grief out of it.  You can also do your nails at the same time.
Nice!  ;D ;D ;D

Could be used for launching ducks into orbit!
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: d_Guy on 08 June 2018, 02:42:24 PM
Fear of the duck, fear of the duck
I have constant fear the quacking's always near
Fear of the duck, fear of the duck
I have a phobia the webb'd feet will soon appear 
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Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 08 June 2018, 03:15:46 PM
Duckmen please!
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Subedai on 08 June 2018, 08:48:41 PM
Quote from: d_Guy on 07 June 2018, 11:34:35 PM
I believe you (or maybe Westie or Ithoriel) first mention Soar Patrol to me - excellent walking music - drives you right along.
Also:
I am a man who walks alone
And when I'm walking a dark road
At night or strolling through the park

When the light begins to change
I sometimes feel a little strange
A little anxious when it's dark.

Whoops! Completely forgot Maiden.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Orcs on 09 June 2018, 12:55:21 PM
I take them to work on nights and do them when we have a quiet spell.

Being paid to do them helps with the drudgery enormously :)
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: howayman on 09 June 2018, 04:08:06 PM
Sorry was that Duck men or Maiden you take to work?

I sit quietly in the corner cleaning and prepping, but inside i seethe.
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: paulr on 09 June 2018, 06:39:37 PM
To be honest I don't really mind the cleaning and prepping. The quality of Pendraken casting means for the vast majority of figures it is just tidying up the underside of the base which is easy and doesn't have to be too precise.

A quick check for the very occasional flash or mold line and you are onto the next figure :!!

Perhaps it is because I'm looking forward to painting :-\
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: petercooman on 09 June 2018, 10:15:55 PM
With 6 artillery packs from perry done, and all pendraken bases filed down, future is much brighter  ;D

Quote from: paulr on 09 June 2018, 06:39:37 PM

Perhaps it is because I'm looking forward to painting :-

I don't look forward to painting them actually. Inbetween family and working out, painting is struggling to get in my schedule!
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: fred. on 10 June 2018, 09:07:33 AM
I'm with Paul on this. Prepping Pendraken figures is generally very straight forward,  the main task is filing the bases flat. Then the occasional clean up of a small bit of flash or feed lines. Compared to some manufacturers this is very minimal effort.

GW Warmaster ones take a lot of work, they have loads of feed worms going into the strips, which need cleaning off, also the strips often seem to be very pointy and sharp, which makes filing the bottoms flat quite painful. But these are very detailed figures, with crisp casting, so the amount of clean-up doesn't always mean poor quality figures.
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Post by: OldenBUA on 10 June 2018, 11:13:06 AM
My tuppence/ramble.

I've just finished cleaning and prepping another batch, about 60 figures. Added to the batches that I did earlier, there's enough to keep me painting for quite some time. This is not helped by the fact that my painting has come to a standstill in the last year (or more).

So why add yet more figures? Well, there are a couple of reasons. First, I think that when I sit down to paint, but can't get myself to actually paint, doing some of this work instead (or painting terrain) gives me the feeling that I have actually done something. Secondly, the warm weather we've had here had led to a surplus of popsicle sticks. Always seems a shame to let these lie empty. But thirdly, and most importantly, I bought a set of magnifying glasses. Something like an optivisor I guess, but smaller and without the headband. Even with the smallest magnification (1.5x) those 10mm figures look like 15mm! Which means I can actually see what I'm painting again! So in the last few weeks I've painted more than in the past year. So I now have a good hope that I can actually make some progress and reduce the pile of stuff that is ready for painting.

Cheers,

Alex
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: petercooman on 10 June 2018, 12:50:00 PM
Quote from: OldenBUA on 10 June 2018, 11:13:06 AM
So in the last few weeks I've painted more than in the past year. So I now have a good hope that I can actually make some progress and reduce the pile of stuff that is ready for painting.

Cheers,

Alex

Good show! Hope you can keep the mojo flowing!

After a long streak of irregular painting sessions, the last year and a half has felt really good for me (with my personal painting challenges). it feels great to get stuff game-ready!
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Post by: paulr on 10 June 2018, 05:52:15 PM
Quote from: OldenBUA on 10 June 2018, 11:13:06 AM
My tuppence/ramble.
...
So in the last few weeks I've painted more than in the past year. So I now have a good hope that I can actually make some progress and reduce the pile of stuff that is ready for painting.

Cheers,

Alex

Great news, crack on :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Terry37 on 10 June 2018, 07:34:19 PM
I usually listen to movie soundtracks as I enjoy them if they are from movies I like, or true old cowboy music not this current country junk! But the music does not seem to prevent my cutting my thumb or filing my fingers!!!!!  :(

Terry
Title: Re: the horror that is cleaning and prepping!
Post by: Techno on 11 June 2018, 06:08:09 AM
Quote from: Terry37 on 10 June 2018, 07:34:19 PM

does not seem to prevent my cutting my thumb or filing my fingers!!!!!  :(
Terry

I'm not the only one, then ! ;)

Cheers - Phil