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Title: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 17 April 2018, 08:03:45 PM
Had some good sunshine today so took a few quick snaps of the progress on my 17th century Muscovite army. The bases are not done as I wait until the entire army is done usually and then do them all at one time for consistency sake.

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF0690_zpshg8goh5j.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF0690_zpshg8goh5j.jpg.html)
Artillery

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF0691_zpscrurdzwv.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF0691_zpscrurdzwv.jpg.html)
Streltsi - 10th Regiment Feodor Lopokhin at left and 12th Regiment Ivan Naramansk at right - two Shooter elements

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF0693_zpsbsdmastv.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF0693_zpsbsdmastv.jpg.html)
The Jiltsi - a Flyer element.

I am working on the command element and two elements of Knights/Riders - Boyars now.

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: SV52 on 17 April 2018, 08:06:40 PM
Great stuff.
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Steve J on 17 April 2018, 08:13:35 PM
Very nice indeed.
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 April 2018, 09:17:52 PM
Top ideas
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Shutuphippie on 17 April 2018, 09:22:05 PM
Looking good
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: d_Guy on 17 April 2018, 11:37:35 PM
Great looking, Terry.

At first glance, the Jitsi looked as though they were riding carrousel ponies - which is actually a neet effect!  :) :-bd
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: paulr on 18 April 2018, 12:49:07 AM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 18 April 2018, 03:56:19 AM
Thank you all, I am having fun doing the army, as it is one I actually got the figures for years ago and had them cleaned, primed and ready to paint, but obviously some other project bumped them. The original army was organized for DBA-HX, but I really have more fun playing HOTT, and you can't have flying horsemen in DBA so HOTT is the obvious choice. That required a little reshuffling of figures, but I had almost everything I needed so am just enjoying it now.

Bill, Yes I can see how the striped lances could give the impression of a carousel horse. I used four sources for painting the Jiltsi - The viskovatov, Gush, Osprey and a small book on Eurasian warriors. Two of the sources showed the striped lances and I thought they added a little color so went with it. Also the various sources showed different colors of hats from a cheery red, to a raspberry red to yellow. I went with the yellow thinking it would be the most colorful. I wanted to give them yellow boots, but all of the sources indicated black or very dark brown boots.

Thanks again guys!

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Techno on 18 April 2018, 05:06:59 AM
Very nice work, Terry ! 8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: sunjester on 18 April 2018, 06:57:36 AM
That's going to be a very nice looking army when you've finished.
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: toxicpixie on 18 April 2018, 08:03:50 AM
You have flying light horse, and you're worried about yellow boots? Go for it, I say!

Lovely stuff :)
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: paulr on 18 April 2018, 08:39:43 AM
But they are historically uniformed flying light horse :) ;D ;D
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: toxicpixie on 18 April 2018, 10:59:02 AM
I'm still in shock from the ongoing, at least mid 80's onwards discussion about painting orcs the correct colour, I can't comment :D
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Leman on 18 April 2018, 12:30:00 PM
They look great, and leaving the basing til last is a great incentive for getting the army finished.
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Glorfindel on 18 April 2018, 01:32:55 PM
Lovely figures.

I presume you have seen this book (due out in 'May').

http://www.helion.co.uk/browse-title-series-more/century-of-the-soldier-c-1618-1721/books-in-series/muscovy-s-soldiers-the-emergence-of-the-russian-army-1462-1689.html (http://www.helion.co.uk/browse-title-series-more/century-of-the-soldier-c-1618-1721/books-in-series/muscovy-s-soldiers-the-emergence-of-the-russian-army-1462-1689.html)


taken from a great series of books, including a few which will be covering
some more unusual subjects.   Really good to see familiar and not so
familiar subjects from a different perspective. 


Phil
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Womble67 on 18 April 2018, 04:41:27 PM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 18 April 2018, 04:43:55 PM
Good comments all.

Of course I could do the yellow boots, but straying too far from who they really were might cause one to ponder who are they again? The fact they are flying LH is a use of the fact they have two wings and the beauty of the HOTT rules. My Polish will have a similar element of Winged Hussars, and my TYW Imperial army will have a two headed eagle as a Flyer.

Another example of taking the real and fully utilizing the HOTT rules will be in my TYW Swedish army - I will have a Lapp element on reindeer, but will be play them as a magician because at that time the Lapps were thought to possess magical powers.

I agree once the bases are done it will be a much more attractive army.

I have the new book coming out on the Muscovite army on my want list and will include it with my next Amazon order.

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 15 May 2018, 05:36:15 PM
Haven't posted any update lately but am slogging ahead on this army, and am closing in on finishing the two elements of Boyars - noble horse. Very fun to do and not what I was expecting, but there is no set uniform, but a requirement for lost of lavishness, color and pattern. I am also finishing up an element of ECW raw recruits (Horde) for a HOTT Parliamentary army for the GBnUIT. I'll post pictures shortly.

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 09 January 2019, 03:20:22 AM
Finally back in the pink as they say, and got some painting done. Finished the figures for three elements.

Theoden for my Eowyn Hero element. Also the mounted archers to be played as Riders.

For my Muscovite army I finished the Dragoon element which will be played as a Lurker.

I'll start the basing tomorrow and am contemplating adding the fallen tree section to the dragoon base as it seem to balance it a bit more.

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF1823_zpsizjg4nap.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF1823_zpsizjg4nap.jpg.html)

or

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF1824_zpsf0neddua.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF1824_zpsf0neddua.jpg.html)

I have also all but finished the base coats on the two elements of Boyars to be played as either Riders or Knights, and will be sharing them shortly.

More to follow,

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: paulr on 09 January 2019, 05:05:43 AM
Good to hear you are 'back in the pink' :)

I think the log does does improve the balance and gives them something to lurk behind ;)
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 09 January 2019, 07:00:32 AM
Like the log!
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Steve J on 09 January 2019, 08:10:16 AM
The log gets my vote :).
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Techno on 09 January 2019, 08:32:56 AM
And me !

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Matt J on 09 January 2019, 09:51:06 AM
+1 for the log.

Is it the Captain's?
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Womble67 on 09 January 2019, 10:29:12 AM
Looks good

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 09 January 2019, 01:10:32 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 18 April 2018, 10:59:02 AM
I'm still in shock from the ongoing, at least mid 80's onwards discussion about painting orcs the correct colour, I can't comment :D

European or African?
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 21 January 2019, 08:30:05 PM
Finished the Boyars, who will be Rider elements in my Muscovite HOTT army.

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF1842_zpsx82jaf9c.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF1842_zpsx82jaf9c.jpg.html)

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF1843_zpskaa3f91c.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF1843_zpskaa3f91c.jpg.html)

Only a few more elements and this one will be ready for action!!!

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 January 2019, 08:39:51 PM
Boy-er-boy!
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: paulr on 21 January 2019, 09:13:05 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Steve J on 21 January 2019, 09:13:19 PM
What Will said ;) :)
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 22 January 2019, 04:46:54 AM
Thank you gentlemen. I am giving thought to have some areas/patches of snow on the Muscovite bases of this army, with some mud and dried/dormant grass. This would go along with he god element which is going to be Russian Winter! 

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: FierceKitty on 22 January 2019, 05:57:44 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 21 January 2019, 08:39:51 PM
Boy-er-boy!

Must you go?
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Techno on 22 January 2019, 07:31:19 AM
Very nice work, Terry !  8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: d_Guy on 27 January 2019, 05:37:33 PM
Very good looking Terry!
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Ben Waterhouse on 27 January 2019, 05:40:15 PM
Very nice
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Womble67 on 28 January 2019, 09:53:44 AM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Leman on 28 January 2019, 04:34:27 PM
Bill, what exactly are you complementing? Is it the figures or Terry himself (damn you, you pesky comma!).
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: d_Guy on 28 January 2019, 04:47:35 PM
Good catch!. It is both. Terry in person is really quite dapper. Reminds me of a civil war general (ours or yours). The figures he paints are excellent as well.  :)
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 28 January 2019, 10:22:50 PM
Aw shucks!!!! Blush Blush!!!!!

Thanks Bill!!!!

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Cowboy/Copy%20of%20Terry%20A%20.%20-%20Copy_zpsen7zq6xm.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Cowboy/Copy%20of%20Terry%20A%20.%20-%20Copy_zpsen7zq6xm.jpg.html)

Not so sure about this mug being a Civil War General, but you might want to look for it at your local post office!!!!!

Terry, err, I mean HT Terry

Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Leman on 29 January 2019, 07:17:16 AM
I'm having a yee-haw! moment.
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 29 January 2019, 07:25:33 PM
Another element done. This time the 5th Moscow Regt of Streltsi, in scarlet kaftan with dark red trim and collar, blue lining and yellow boots.

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF1857_zpshygceona.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF1857_zpshygceona.jpg.html)

Leman, hoping you were playing your banjo during that yee-haw moment!!! If not, it's a - 14 from your D6 die roll

More to follow,

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Leman on 29 January 2019, 09:19:27 PM
Sadly no, although my nephew is a pretty mean banjo player (and also wargamer of the Saga, Lord of the Rings, Warmaster variety).
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 30 January 2019, 06:48:21 AM
Those look cool
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 31 January 2019, 11:04:14 PM
OK then Leman, afraid you have to deduct 14 points from your next D6 die roll!!!! Just FYI, but I've been know to twang a guitar in more than one group in my day.

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/Terry%20in%20band%20at%20IBM%202_zps6nstqdpc.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/Terry%20in%20band%20at%20IBM%202_zps6nstqdpc.jpg.html)
I'm on the right. This was taken art a general meeting we played in at work.


(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/Terry%20as%20a%20Snooze%20Brohters_zpsxobfxczx.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/Terry%20as%20a%20Snooze%20Brohters_zpsxobfxczx.jpg.html)
Doing a take off of the Blues Brothers .... we were the Snooze Brothers!!!

Can't find my pictures of when I played in a true Hee-haw cowboy band thigh.

Hoppy Trails

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Leman on 01 February 2019, 08:28:17 AM
Who says wargamers can't be cool  :-bd
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Westmarcher on 01 February 2019, 10:02:03 AM
Hidden talents indeed, Terry! (mind you, we haven't heard how good/bad you are - and don't take that as an invitation to let us know!*)  ;D    And I thought I was only joking at Christmas .... (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,18078.msg269681.html#msg269681 (http://www.pendrakenforum.co.uk/index.php/topic,18078.msg269681.html#msg269681))
What's the next revelation? Duelling banjos with Bill?    ;D

* Aw, OK - but just the once! ;)
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 07 February 2019, 03:42:39 AM
Westmarcher, I didn't know Bill played the Banjo, but I know the tune and have played it in the past. One thing for sure - you do NOT want to hear me sing.....I am the only person at church that my priest  pulled aside and said it would be OK, if I just quietly hummed along to the hymns!!!!! Trust me guys I really am a hacker at this, but have been playing and singing off and on since I was 16, and it has always been a fun adventure.

On the subject of the Muscovites, I finished cleaning and priming the last of the figures needed and am painting like the dickens ot get ti finished, so more pictures soon, and shortly he entire army all based and pretty!

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 26 February 2019, 05:46:13 PM
I've been fighting an infection in both eyes for nearly three weeks now and unfortunately, so far am seeing no improvement. This condition has limited my ability to paint, and even when I get the chance it is for a limited amount of time. But I have been able to finish a few more elements for this army.

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF1902_zpsw1rbjcfz.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF1902_zpsw1rbjcfz.jpg.html)
Left the Vasili Bokvostov Regiment (played as a Spear element), and right an element of Cossacks (played as Riders).

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF1904_zpsw98vcmwo.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF1904_zpsw98vcmwo.jpg.html)
Here's the army showing all of the elements except the Flyer element (Jiltsi) and the Stronghold. 3 more elements to complete and the army is done.

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF1901_zpsnzyecfvo.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF1901_zpsnzyecfvo.jpg.html)
Here's the Stronghold, with muskets from the Lagovskin  Regiment  doing guard duty. This will also be the Stronghold for my Polish army as the guards are removable, and both used armored wagons like this. I also added a holder to fly a national flag that can be switched out.

More to follow,

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 26 February 2019, 06:10:36 PM
Very nice work Terry.
Get well soon.
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Steve J on 26 February 2019, 09:05:31 PM
Thanks for the update on some really nice stuff and I hope your eye infection clears up soon.
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: paulr on 26 February 2019, 11:23:49 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd

Hope the infection clears up soon
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Techno on 27 February 2019, 07:54:18 AM
Those look very nice, indeed, Terry. :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: mmcv on 27 February 2019, 07:57:52 AM
Lovely work  :-bd
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Womble67 on 28 February 2019, 04:40:56 PM
They look great

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 16 March 2019, 06:11:56 PM
I am slowly getting my vision back and so was able to do some painting again. I finished the command element for my HOTT Muscovite army. The pictures aren't great as it was overcast and raining so I had to use indoor lamps. They turned the white background yellow!!!

(https://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF1939_zpsqzn4cqdf.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF1939_zpsqzn4cqdf.jpg.html)

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF1941_zpsgemg11jv.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF1941_zpsgemg11jv.jpg.html)

The flags are set out just just to show them and one will be carried by the standard bearer (fellow in the second picture nearest the camera and slightly blurred) and the other will be mounted on the Stronghold war wagon. I am thinking to do the one for the command element with a raspberry and green striped pole, and probably all red or all green for the war wagon one.

The army is very close to being finished, with just three elements to go - the god element (Russian Winter), a Knight element (Horse based on the west and looking like cavaliers in pot helm and cuirass) and a Horde element (armed peasants). They are all underway and hope to finish them soon. Then I will compete the bases and share the entire army.

This has been a  very fun army to do, but one requiring a lot of little detail work to create the look I was after for the time.

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: d_Guy on 16 March 2019, 07:49:12 PM
The flags are beautiful, Terry, and extremely well animated.
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Westmarcher on 16 March 2019, 07:50:39 PM
Quote from: Terry37 on 16 March 2019, 06:11:56 PM
I am slowly getting my vision back and so was able to do some painting again.

What happened? Did the wife give you a couple of black eyes?

Seriously, good to read you're back on the mend - that's a long time you've had that infection.

By the way, the flags and the painted figures are particularly good, too!  :-bd
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 16 March 2019, 08:19:05 PM
Thanks guys, can't take credit for the flags, got them from Flag Dude, as he does really nice ones.

As for my eye problem, no, although I probably deserve a couple of black eyes from my better half, the problem was caused by a bad reaction all of a sudden to one of my glaucoma eye drops. Was suffering with severe burring, swelling, constant watering, itching and pain! Could not see well enough to really even read. Things got really involved and after suffering with it for a month with my eye doc of many years, I had to change to a new doc. He identified he problem in minutes and had me seeing/feeling improvement over night. Not fully recovered yet, but doing so much better now!!!!

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: paulr on 16 March 2019, 11:25:49 PM
Good to hear you are on the mend

As to the figures
:-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 March 2019, 07:28:58 AM
Nice
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Techno on 17 March 2019, 08:16:16 AM
Figures looking damn fine, Terry....Great animation in the flags, as Bill has already said. :)

If it's of any use.....You might find that there's a colour correction facility on your phone/camera, to get rid of the orange 'cast' if you're using, what I assume are, tungsten bulbs.
The other way around this is to use 'daylight' bulbs, which give off a much 'colder' light......From memory, these aren't horribly pricey......These used to be blue.....But there are probably led or 'similar' bulbs that give the same effect by now.

(The old way around this was to screw a daylight filter in front of the lens.....these are/were various shades of blue, which again helps to loose the orange colouration, by conning the camera as far as the light is concerned.)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 18 March 2019, 03:35:58 AM
Thanks Phil. I am not much of a photographer, although I do enjoy trying - for the creativity opportunity. Will keep in mind your suggestions.

More soon!!!

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Techno on 18 March 2019, 06:53:18 AM
You're welcome, Terry. :)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Terry37 on 17 April 2019, 06:46:19 PM
I have finally finished the Horde element for my Muscovite army, so only two more elements to go. Seems like it took forever to finish these guys, as I was not overly pleased with the way the washes went, so almost did a complete repaint and basically hand did the shadows, and I always hand do the highlights. But they seem to have turned out OK, and for a peasant rabble they'll do nicely.   

(https://oi257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Painting/DSCF1986_zpsvtsmxvsr.jpg) (https://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Painting/DSCF1986_zpsvtsmxvsr.jpg.html)

More soon,

Terry
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: paulr on 17 April 2019, 07:41:13 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: d_Guy on 17 April 2019, 10:32:43 PM
Very nice, Terry! Will be anxious to see it all together with final basing.
Title: Re: Muscovite Army
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 April 2019, 10:48:08 PM
Cool Terry