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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => 20th Century => Topic started by: Elliesdad on 01 April 2018, 07:17:03 PM

Title: VBCW rules recommendations?
Post by: Elliesdad on 01 April 2018, 07:17:03 PM
Hi,

I'm planning a dabble in the VBCW period - 10mm of course.
I'm thinking around, say, 20 infantry bases per side (2 companies?), plus a few HMGs and/or mortars. Plus random support - artillery, aircraft and tanks/improvised armour. So a battalion/company sized game.

I'm almost exclusively a solo gamer and wonder what rules you guys can recommend? I don't really want anything too complicated. I've mostly played DBA and HotT games.

Regards,

Geoff
Title: Re: VBCW rules recommendations?
Post by: Steve J on 01 April 2018, 08:42:26 PM
Hi Geoff,
I've used BKCII for my AVBCW games as it's a ruleset I'm very comfortable with. The base unit is a Platoon, so a Battalion may have 9-12 bases, plus say a couple of HMG's and a Mortar or two. You can add in air support, tanks and artillery as you see fit. I hope this helps?
Title: Re: VBCW rules recommendations?
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 01 April 2018, 09:50:49 PM
Hello Geoff/Elliesdad

Rules for the Spanish Civil War are probably the easiest to modify. You could have a look at the Lardies card activated rules such as Triumph of the Will, IABSM and If the Lord should spare us - https://toofatlardies.co.uk/ (https://toofatlardies.co.uk/)

There's the new grid based version of Peter Pigs Bayonet and Ideology - http://www.peterpig.co.uk/SCWplaytest.html (http://www.peterpig.co.uk/SCWplaytest.html)

And there's always the Perfect Captain's Red Actions (for RCW) - http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/redactions.html (http://perfectcaptain.50megs.com/redactions.html), this has an attached campaign system and is also FREE!!!

There's also bespoke rules such as a World Aflame https://ospreypublishing.com/a-world-aflame-interwar-wargame-rules-1918-39 (https://ospreypublishing.com/a-world-aflame-interwar-wargame-rules-1918-39)

You mentioned that you were  familiar with DBA/HOTT there is also a 1930s game for the Chaco War  based on these sets that you could modify - http://freewargamesrules.wikia.com/wiki/The_Chaco_Wars (http://freewargamesrules.wikia.com/wiki/The_Chaco_Wars)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan
Title: Re: VBCW rules recommendations?
Post by: sunjester on 02 April 2018, 07:41:11 AM
Hi Geoff,

I've also had some great games using BKC2, but for AVBCW I use a lower level organisation of 6 stands to a company, plus a mortar/mmg (if the faction is well equipped) and two guns to a battery for on-table artillery.

For solo play I would say the Two Fat Lardie's I Ain't Bin Shot Mum 3 would work well, as activation is random, based on drawing cards. I've thrown a few random event cards into the deck for AVBCW to reflect guns jamming, vehicles breaking down, militia wandering off for tea etc.

I think both sets do the job, I've even tried running the same scenario using both sets a couple of times. They gave very different, but equally enjoyable games. Personally I slightly prefer IABSM because the card activation gives an extra quirkiness that suits the period.
Title: Re: VBCW rules recommendations?
Post by: Terry37 on 02 April 2018, 04:11:41 PM
Of course HOTT works fine if you wanted to give it a try. I have dabbled at possibly doing something along those lines, but then decided to use the movie "Things to Come" based on HG Wells book instead.

Terry
Title: Re: VBCW rules recommendations?
Post by: Elliesdad on 03 April 2018, 07:41:56 PM
As our American brethren say "thanks y'all" for the recommendations.

I suspect I'll just go with HotT with perhaps a few house rules for the VBCW quirks.

Thanks again,

Geoff
Title: Re: VBCW rules recommendations?
Post by: toxicpixie on 09 April 2018, 08:45:23 AM
I liked BKC2 - but I was visualising it as a base with four figures equals one "half a squad", a vehicle model is a single vehicle etc.

The rules worked well - everything was some variety of rubbish or worse, and nowt much was a "super unit".
Title: Re: VBCW rules recommendations?
Post by: GrumpyOldMan on 09 April 2018, 11:02:59 PM
Hi

Also there is a set called 'And Was Jerusalem Builded Here?' from Empress miniatures - http://www.empressminiatures.com/page18.htm (http://www.empressminiatures.com/page18.htm), which is set up for 28mm but if you change ranges from inches to cms then it is a fun game. I believe it was the early basis for 'A World Aflame' rules.

A link for some Chance Cards - https://6milphil.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/chance-is-a-fine-thing/ (https://6milphil.wordpress.com/2011/10/31/chance-is-a-fine-thing/)

Also some  simple rules here - https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vbcf/quick-dirty-vbcw-rules-t491.html (https://www.tapatalk.com/groups/vbcf/quick-dirty-vbcw-rules-t491.html)

Cheers

GrumpyOldMan