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Title: Napoleonic Brunswick Avant-Garde
Post by: fsn on 17 February 2018, 04:11:08 PM
Gentlemen.

I can't do it. I just can't do it. Perhaps I should explain a bit more.

In 1973 I bought the classic "Uniforms at Waterloo". I was much taken with the black Brunswickers and some Airfix French found service in the Corps. The Avant Garde were supplied by some carefully chosen Confederates.

I was quite excited when Pendraken released their Brunswickers ... however. Those of you who have been in this forum will know my pet hates - prone figures, kneeling figures and firing figures. Whereas I dislike these poses post 1900, I cannot tolerate them pre 1900.

Imagine then, my disappointment when the Pendraken Brunswick Avant-Garde come in two flavours - kneeling or firing. I have made my purchases over the last few months, hoping against hope that I would get to like, or at least tolerate the Avant-Garde.

I can't. I know they're skirmishers, I know they're perfectly good sculpts ... but not for my table.

So, Gentlemen of the Forum, I come to you. Is there a reasonable proxy in another range? My first though was the Austrian jaegers, but these too seem to be firing. I'm not too picky, but something that looks a bit like a Corsican hat would be appreciated. I'd prefer an "advancing" position.

If not, then my Brunswick Corps will march without it's Avant-Garde.

Thank you.  
Title: Re: Napoleonic Brunswick Avant-Garde
Post by: petercooman on 17 February 2018, 05:23:19 PM
Personally don't understand why firing models are "no good". Even if you dislike them,  it's only one unit, no?
Title: Re: Napoleonic Brunswick Avant-Garde
Post by: fsn on 17 February 2018, 05:37:02 PM
In some ways it being only one unit makes it worse.

It just looks wrong to me. My Napoleonics spend more time advancing in column than they do in the firing line. I don't like the look of firing poses in these formations ... and kneeling poses are even worse when you have a column with alternative firing and kneeling figures.

I'm not that fussy about much. To me a Sherman 75mm is pretty much a Sherman 75mm, because I can't afford to but all the variants for all the uses I need make of a Sherman 75mm. I can  just about prone or kneeling soldiers on crew served weapons, but pre 1900 firing/kneeling is something I really don't like.

   
Title: Re: Napoleonic Brunswick Avant-Garde
Post by: d_Guy on 18 February 2018, 01:50:47 AM
This may be too much of a stretch but look at the running figure in AU3 - paint can make up for much and the hat is similar (sort of similar).
Title: Re: Napoleonic Brunswick Avant-Garde
Post by: paulr on 18 February 2018, 07:41:27 AM
If memory serves FSN is not that keen on 'ice skaters' either ;) ;D

I should add that I like the dynamic pose, it suits the unit
Title: Re: Napoleonic Brunswick Avant-Garde
Post by: FierceKitty on 18 February 2018, 07:47:12 AM
Good description. (chuckles ruefully, knowing what he'll think every time he sees one from now on)
Title: Re: Napoleonic Brunswick Avant-Garde
Post by: fsn on 18 February 2018, 08:17:11 AM
Prefer the ice skater to the kneeling.

I may get a pack for evaluation. Thank you.
Title: Re: Napoleonic Brunswick Avant-Garde
Post by: petercooman on 18 February 2018, 09:32:43 AM
Quote from: fsn on 17 February 2018, 05:37:02 PM
In some ways it being only one unit makes it worse.

It just looks wrong to me. My Napoleonics spend more time advancing in column than they do in the firing line. I don't like the look of firing poses in these formations ... and kneeling poses are even worse when you have a column with alternative firing and kneeling figures.

I'm not that fussy about much. To me a Sherman 75mm is pretty much a Sherman 75mm, because I can't afford to but all the variants for all the uses I need make of a Sherman 75mm. I can  just about prone or kneeling soldiers on crew served weapons, but pre 1900 firing/kneeling is something I really don't like.

   

I understand your point, but to me it would not be so bad.


Now would swapping the heads be an easy solution?
Title: Re: Napoleonic Brunswick Avant-Garde
Post by: fsn on 18 February 2018, 11:00:12 AM
I have thought about head swaps. My experience with them is that it ends up with what looks like a good day for the French Revolution.   :(