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Title: Rebels & Patriots - a new set of skirmish rules from Osprey
Post by: Steve J on 05 January 2018, 10:09:48 PM
I can now officially talk about the following rules that I'm helping to playtest for Michael Leck &  Dan Mersey. Details can be found below:

http://dalauppror.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/rebels-and-patriots-wargaming-rules-for.html (http://dalauppror.blogspot.co.uk/2018/01/rebels-and-patriots-wargaming-rules-for.html)

Can't go into too much detail, but if you like any of Michael and Dan's previous rules, I'm sure you will like these.
Title: Re: Rebels & Patriots - a new set of skirmish rules from Osprey
Post by: sunjester on 05 January 2018, 11:19:56 PM
Very interesting. I've been meaning to tweak TMWWBK for playing the F&I War, so perhaps I'll wait for these.
Title: Re: Rebels & Patriots - a new set of skirmish rules from Osprey
Post by: paulr on 06 January 2018, 01:31:01 AM
QuoteThe rules are written with a focus at conflicts on the North American continent from The French and Indian War (1754–1763), through The American War of Independence (1775-1783), War of 1812 (1812–1815), Texas Revolution (1835-1836), Mexican–American War (1846-1848), up to the American Civil War (1861-1865)

111 years and some fairly major changes in technology and tactics...  :-\
Title: Re: Rebels & Patriots - a new set of skirmish rules from Osprey
Post by: Dave Fielder on 20 May 2018, 05:20:54 PM
How is (has) the play tested going (gone)? Is it best in 28mm or (knowing Steve J) could proxy 10mm stuff be used? I assume the later ... Send SITREP
Title: Re: Rebels & Patriots - a new set of skirmish rules from Osprey
Post by: Steve J on 20 May 2018, 07:11:05 PM
Play testing complete and rules with Osprey. Publication next year IIRC. 10mm absolutely fine Dave, either individually based or grouped.
Title: Re: Rebels & Patriots - a new set of skirmish rules from Osprey
Post by: Dave Fielder on 26 May 2018, 07:21:02 PM
Now, if only I had some AWI ....


.... oh! I do  :D
Title: Re: Rebels & Patriots - a new set of skirmish rules from Osprey
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 15 June 2018, 05:27:47 AM
Quote from: paulr on 06 January 2018, 01:31:01 AM
111 years and some fairly major changes in technology and tactics...  :-

I understand they're based on the Lion Rampant engine - so "large skirmish" where such factors might be regarded as less critical.

The blocker for me is that American terrain (especially the man-made bits) has a quite specific look.
Title: Re: Rebels & Patriots - a new set of skirmish rules from Osprey
Post by: fred. on 15 June 2018, 11:36:58 AM
Sounds interesting. TMWWBKs was a big improvement over Lion Rampant to me, so it will be interesting to see what these rules bring. The pikemans lament looked interesting but I haven't played it.
Title: Re: Rebels & Patriots - a new set of skirmish rules from Osprey
Post by: steve_holmes_11 on 19 June 2018, 05:29:06 PM
Quote from: fred. on 15 June 2018, 11:36:58 AM
Sounds interesting. TMWWBKs was a big improvement over Lion Rampant to me, so it will be interesting to see what these rules bring. The pikemans lament looked interesting but I haven't played it.

There's certainly a type of rules whose base engine flexes nicely across many generally accepted wargaming genres.

DBA spawned a host of unofficial "period variants", and a couple of official ones.
Ganesha games "Blades and heroes" core has been applied to a bewildering variety of settings.
The Warmaster command engine (with tweaks) roll for anything between Ancients to WW2 (and later).

This tells me two things.
We gamers are a flexible bunch who will leave no stone unturned in a quest to find the perfect rules for our favourite setting.
Simple models for command and combat are easy to tweak for different settings.