Well, the subject line says all you really need to be able to extrapolate what happened today.
Typhoons .... that's whats you needs
I had quite good air support. It achieved nothing whatever.
Divisional arty works quite well, also hit em I the flank !
15" guns from your naval support?
17lbers? 5.5" guns on call?
If the Brits knew there were Tiggers out there, how about 1000 Lancaster Bombers?
My 17 pdr got blown to scrap on round two!
Sounds like its time for a new set of rules :D
Tom Davidson, former owner of the former Dragon & George (a Local Shop for Local Gamers 8) ) in Glasgow, also hated Tigers, but was forced by limited minis available to take a couple in his OOB for a game of Spearhead many years ago. All I had for arty as the Plucky Brits was a 3" mortar. It needed 2 consecutive die rolls of 11+ on 2d6 to knock a Tiger out...
8) :D ;D
He never forgot that. I never let him.
;D ;D ;D
The advantages of the Tiger are its relatively long range and its armour. You negate those by getting close and attacking a flank. Question for the Brits (and anyone else) is how?
Cut the range down using smoke so you make a safer approach;
Get on a flank by pinning to the front and rushing someone else up under cover of the smoke.
Might work?
Should do :-bd
...... provided the Tiger doesn't have any friends on the flanks (stugs, jagdpanzers, panzerfaust teams ....) :'(
..... and the Tiger crew aren't reading this, also! :D
Just use your super firefly . I saw I in a movie once...
Quote from: Westmarcher on 19 December 2017, 09:03:17 AM
Should do :-bd
...... provided the Tiger doesn't have any friends on the flanks (stugs, jagdpanzers, panzerfaust teams ....) :'(
..... and the Tiger crew aren't reading this, also! :D
Too true - the thing is don't do it piecemeal - You have to mean it.
If it's a points based game then I'd hope that the Tigers were outnumbered, and outnumbered in a historical scenario as well for that matter?
Sacrifice 3-4 Shermans to get the Tiger kill?
That's how it was done after all...
"You think you got problems Comrade ? I have a troop of Royal Irish Hussar Centurions swanning down the valley towards this cross roads.
I have a few crapped out T34s and a section of 57mm AT. Air support ? What air support?
If only Uncle Joe had spared us a few JSIIIs ........ :(
So all you traumatised Tiger victims. Victim support is at hand The Korean day is dawning.....
Quote from: Dr Dave on 19 December 2017, 10:31:26 AM
Too true - the thing is don't do it piecemeal - You have to mean it.
If it's a points based game then I'd hope that the Tigers were outnumbered, and outnumbered in a historical scenario as well for that matter?
I had a Churchill with a 75mm, a Lee, and two crusader III tanks, vs two tigers.
Looks a tad unbalanced......
Watch out for the 'White' Tiger.
I suggest you feed the lee to the tigers while the rest retreat. Should keep them busy...
QuoteTom Davidson, former owner of the former Dragon & George (a Local Shop for Local Gamers Cool ) in Glasgow, also hated Tigers, but was forced by limited minis available to take a couple in his OOB for a game of Spearhead many years ago. All I had for arty as the Plucky Brits was a 3" mortar. It needed 2 consecutive die rolls of 11+ on 2d6 to knock a Tiger out...
I've heard what is probably an apocryphal that a Tiger II was taken out by a 2" mortar. The story goes that a British section stumbled across a couple of Tiger IIs while they were re-arming and before leaving fired a couple of 2" mortar rounds at the ammo truck, the resulting explosion dislodged one of the tiger's turrent and caused an internal explosion. Who says reality doesn't mimic gaming?
I seem to remember reading some memoir and the bloke said that it took about five Shermans to take out a Tigger; four to occupy it frontally while the fifth slipped around the flank.
As an alternative you could go for the fully authentic approach and send 600 heavy bombers to the Tiger works in Kassel? ;)
Quote from: Dr Dave on 23 January 2018, 05:12:51 PM
As an alternative you could go for the fully authentic approach and send 600 heavy bombers to the Tiger works in Kassel? ;)
Well, that works in the long term, but doesn't really deal with the problem of the one that's 300 yards away and with it's turret rapidly turning to point in your direction . . .
Cheers, M.
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M
I think it's a case of, "SMOKE, DRIVER, FULL SPEED, REVERSE HARD LEFT, GUNNER, TANK, 300 YARDS, FIRE!"
Cheers Paul
Didn't think Tiger turrets did "rapidly"?
"Ponderously". "Ominously". "Menacingly".
Me, I'd hit it with a battery of 5.5" guns, or better still a broadside from HMS Warspite.
Pte Eric Tipping formerly of 1st bttn the Worcestershire Regt told me last year that his platoon faced down 2 Tigers on "the island" north of Nijmegen. Eric was hot on his tank spotting and and vehement that these were Tigers with about 40 infantry following them.
The platoon commander called for the PIAT but no one knew where it was. At about 50yds his platoon, unseen up to this point, opened fire with everything - except the PIAT! Both Tiger commanders were killed by head shots. The infantry were similarly cut about. The Tigers halted and then withdrew along with the surviving infantry.
Eric passed away in December. The Mercian Regiment sent a representative.