For a full suit of plate armour/armor ?
I meant to ask this a couple of weeks ago when Von was doing a Saturday quiz puzzle in one of the papers.
I can find out the names of all the BITS/PARTS of a suit....(I even knew a handful of them, when I had a look around 'the net'.....)
But I've never heard of a name that encompasses the full suit.
I THINK Von reckoned it began with a T or an S. (Because of an answer she'd already got, in the quiz.)
Any ideas, Gang ?
Cheers - Phil
A tank?
Is panoply the word you seek?
Chris
Quote from: Techno on 23 November 2017, 03:58:46 PM
For a full suit of plate armour/armor ?
I meant to ask this a couple of weeks ago when Von was doing a Saturday quiz puzzle in one of the papers.
I can find out the names of all the BITS/PARTS of a suit....(I even knew a handful of them, when I had a look around 'the net'.....)
But I've never heard of a name that encompasses the full suit.
I THINK Von reckoned it began with a T or an S. (Because of an answer she'd already got, in the quiz.)
Any ideas, Gang ?
1st Prize a weekend on the mystic Isle of Rockhall
Cheers - Phil
On Antiques Road show I have heard a suit of armour referred by the French term as a matching "GARNITURE" - which as a term can be applied to anything that matches.
In Olde English one gets reference to a "HARNESS of armour" , meaning a full suit.
Cheers
James
Thanks oodles guys.....
Hmmmmm.....
So much for the S or T X_X ...... (I DID say "Look it up in the following week's quiz, Von"..... ;D ;D ;D ;D)
Cheers muchly - Phil. (1st prize ?......Nice try, James..... ;D ;D ;D ;D......I think I'm leaning towards panoply.)
Quote from: Techno on 23 November 2017, 04:39:08 PM
Thanks oodles guys.....
Hmmmmm.....
So much for the S or T X_X ...... (I DID say "Look it up in the following week's quiz, Von"..... ;D ;D ;D ;D)
Cheers muchly - Phil. (1st prize ?......Nice try, James..... ;D ;D ;D ;D......I think I'm leaning towards panoply.)
Awe. I can think of a few people I would send to Rockhall......... ;D
Full harness, panoply and suit of plate mail - I've heard all of these used to refer to plate armour.
Quote from: Sunray on 23 November 2017, 05:40:19 PM
Awe. I can think of a few people I would send to Rockhall......... ;D
Or Rockall even ....must stop typing on the train - the light is wick
My son & I were stuck on this clue as well. You just reminded me to check out the answer.
Harness is hardly old English.
I would go for "Harness" as that is my understanding of the 15th/16th century term used in English.
FK, I think he meant it's an old term in English rather than a word in Old English (Anglo Saxon).
Dictionaries give "full set of armour" as one of the definitions for both panoply and harness.
If you can look it up, Slugbalancer, that'd be great.
Von says she's just about certain it was seven letters long.....So it could be panoply OR harness. :-\
Bill's findings still mean it could be either. ;D ;D
Cheers - Phil
I'd use panoply (panoplia) for ancient Greek stuff. Harness for European. Presumably it's where the expression to 'die in harness' comes from, meaning don't retire but 'die on the job' so to speak?
Quote from: sunjester on 23 November 2017, 11:07:56 PM
I would go for "Harness" as that is my understanding of the 15th/16th century term used in English.
FK, I think he meant it's an old term in English rather than a word in Old English (Anglo Saxon).
Quite- Plate armour was not around for the Anglo Saxons ! I have seen it used in Olde English of the Tudor period. And in old Scots incunabula to describe the armour of King James VI whose body was stripped of his Royal Harness at Flodden.
Not sure if "to die in harness" is that old. Words change with time, and this phrase may refer to the plough horse
The Tudors would have found old English harder to understand than many modern people do,
Quote from: FierceKitty on 24 November 2017, 11:13:26 AM
The Tudors would have found old English harder to understand than many modern people do,
Verily I say unto ye. Woe unto him that makest a pedantic issue o this matter.
Dinna mak up yon thrawin rooks o this forbye! :)
Maketh is the third person singular, Ezekiel. Remember how much trouble you got us into that time with Nebuchadnezzar?
Quote from: FierceKitty on 24 November 2017, 05:03:59 PM
:)Maketh is the third person singular, Ezekiel. Remember how much trouble you got us into that time with Nebuchadnezzar?
Typo - it is Maketh . You know your AV. :)