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Title: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: hakejumble on 17 October 2017, 08:59:14 PM
Hi all,

Recently put in a large (£300  :( ) order for a Soviet 42' Tank Corps for use in a campaign next year.

Having never painted soviets before I just wondered if anyone could shed any light on the Vallejo colours they used for:

- Russian uniform & highlights
- Helmet green colour
- Tank green colour & highlights

Any help would be much appreciated!

Jake
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: Techno on 17 October 2017, 09:10:01 PM
Sorry, Jake.

Personally can't help you there....But someone should be along later....(Or tomorrow morning).... to give you some advice.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: fred. on 17 October 2017, 09:19:14 PM
I think Russian uniform colours varied a lot - there is a Vallejo paint called Russian Uniform, but it is very much a green/grey shade, and most Russian uniforms tend to be be more of a Tan / Brown colour. It is probably worth having a look for the Flames of War painting guides, as they use Vallejo colours.
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: hakejumble on 17 October 2017, 10:01:07 PM
Ah yes good idea, I forgot about those. Handy with them being Vallejo colours!

I'll have a look now.

Jake
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: Womble67 on 17 October 2017, 10:40:37 PM
Quote from: fred. on 17 October 2017, 09:19:14 PM
I think Russian uniform colours varied a lot - there is a Vallejo paint called Russian Uniform, but it is very much a green/grey shade, and most Russian uniforms tend to be be more of a Tan / Brown colour. It is probably worth having a look for the Flames of War painting guides, as they use Vallejo colours.

Pretty much what Fred said

Take

Andy
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: Womble67 on 17 October 2017, 10:49:43 PM
These pictures may help

https://goo.gl/photos/LbskobNsE1WYBDQx7 (https://goo.gl/photos/LbskobNsE1WYBDQx7)

Take care

Andy

Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: Steve J on 18 October 2017, 05:49:46 AM
The FoW site is useful. For the AFVs I use Russian Green, and then drybrush with some GW colours I have. Uniforms wise, the tan colour was a summer issue, the greener version a winter one. Previously I have done both, to make one battalion stand out from another. This time I would go for the tan version throughout as I prefer the colour.
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: T13A on 18 October 2017, 07:41:24 AM
Hi Jake

Try this site: http://www.artizandesigns.com/painting-guides.php

Just be aware it is for 28mm figures.

Cheers Paul

Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: Orcs on 18 October 2017, 08:44:34 AM
The cloth and dye used for Russian uniforms was of variable quality. Add to the the use and abuse of the uniform, sun bleaching etc and any shade from washed out Khaki to Brown or even a British Unitform  Khaki would be suitable.

I would use any of the following as the base coat.  You could vary the base coat to differentiate companies and or brigades


Russian Uniform

Russsian Uniform  924
Brown Violet  887
Khaki 988

Coat D'arms

Faded Khaki 537
British Khaki 501

Tank Colour

Tanks were a dark olive green, but this is really to dark for them at this scale.

I would use

Vallejo reflective green  890
Dark Cam olive green 894

Humbrol 30
Humbrol 32

Camouflage was sometimes used but not often.  the 5th Guards Tank Corps was pattern painted with brown swaths before Kursk

If you can find then

The Eastern Front Camouflage and Markings 1941-1945 by Zaoga and Guardsen is good

Much harder to find but has more on actual camouflage is  Camouflage of the tanks of the Red Army 1930-1945.  Be aware this was initially only available  with  Russian Text.  You can get an English version, but how hard that will be I don't know - neither comes up on an amazon search 









 
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: Steve J on 18 October 2017, 10:39:35 AM
Tanks Encyclopaedia is worth checking for camo patterns:

[/url]http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/soviet_T34-76.php[/url]

There is a great site on the Russian army (searh RKKA WWII), but it comes up as blocked as a high risk site and access denied. Shame as it has loads of really useful info on all types of Russians AFVs.
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: hakejumble on 18 October 2017, 11:08:09 AM
Wow thank you very much, couldn't have asked for much more!

You are right about the darker colours not being suitable for this scale.

I am planing on using an English Uniform style undercoat with a heavy highlight of either khaki or Iraqi sand. Followed by a wash of agrax earth shade.

I'm gonna do a few testers and I'll do a post  when I have my first batch done.

Jake
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: fsn on 18 October 2017, 04:46:41 PM
http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/soviet_T34-76.php (http://www.tanks-encyclopedia.com/ww2/soviet/soviet_T34-76.php)

You /url'd at the start.
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: petercooman on 18 October 2017, 05:28:14 PM
You can also order a free pdf on the warlord games site. Painting soviets for vol action. Mostly Vallejo and army painter.you can in fact get one for every nation.
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: Heedless Horseman on 18 October 2017, 07:29:59 PM
On the net, 'Engines of the Red Army' worth a look for various vehicles.

http://www.o5m6.de/
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: Aksu on 19 October 2017, 03:46:54 AM
The advice above is great, the following page is good for inspiration (colours should be taken with a pinch of salt)

https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pocisk19/rkka/?lp=true (https://www.pinterest.co.uk/pocisk19/rkka/?lp=true)

Cheers,
Aksu
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: hakejumble on 19 October 2017, 08:58:10 AM
Quote from: petercooman on 18 October 2017, 05:28:14 PM
You can also order a free pdf on the warlord games site. Painting soviets for vol action. Mostly Vallejo and army painter.you can in fact get one for every nation.

Struggling to find this on the warlord games site, I don't suppose you have a link handy??

Thanks all for the help, couldn't ask for any more!

Jake
Title: Re: Vallejo colours to use for painting Soviets ?
Post by: Wulf on 19 October 2017, 09:50:50 AM
https://store.warlordgames.com/collections/painting-guides

Those look better than they were when I d/l them, must get new copies...