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Title: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 August 2017, 04:51:41 PM
Help
Friend has just off-loaded a part painted 7YW army on me!
Help!!!!
It's an 'Alliance' force:
Two batteries of artillery

In 'French formation' three ranks
Cologne Foot Guard Regt
Schwackbury regt
Holstein Gotlord Dobrokoffsky

In 'Dutch order' (two tanks)
Danish Fynske Regt
Prussian Donna Regt
British North Greys Regt
Hessian-Kassel Erbprints Regt
Dutch No8 Birkmfeld Regt

No painted cavalry.
Suggestions of what to do next please?
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 August 2017, 05:12:02 PM
Or maybe they are Marlburians - again, a period I know nothing about!!!
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: SV52 on 21 August 2017, 06:48:53 PM
Nice  :) What scale? Three-cornered hats or broad brimmed flat?  They sound more like League of Augsburg types late 17th century. Like these?

http://www.leagueofaugsburg.com/gallery/gallery-39-40.html#t2

Get hold of an OOB and finish off the army  8)
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 August 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Tricorn, bags labelled mostly as MAL(x)
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Dr Dave on 21 August 2017, 07:06:59 PM
Ebay... then buy some tanks.
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Leman on 21 August 2017, 09:58:04 PM
Definitely Marlburian, although I don't think they had any tanks in the Dutch army at that time, let alone two of the blighters.........then again Albert van Vinci was living in Rotterdam at the time.
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Orcs on 21 August 2017, 10:20:04 PM
Hi Lemmy, 

If they are 10mm they are definitely Marlburian.  If your selling I may well be interested, Please PM me with an idea of what you want for them.

I am at a funeral for most of tomorrow, So if I don't reply its not that I am not interested

Cheers

Mark
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: SV52 on 21 August 2017, 10:38:00 PM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 21 August 2017, 07:05:28 PM
Tricorn, bags labelled mostly as MAL(x)

The code makes me think 25mm Miniature Figurines. This is their list, got pics of some of the range:
http://www.miniaturefigurines.co.uk/Catalogue.aspx?ScaleID=3&CategoryID=17&SubCategoryID=104
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 21 August 2017, 11:55:38 PM
Quote from: Orcs on 21 August 2017, 10:20:04 PM
Hi Lemmy, 

If they are 10mm they are definitely Marlburian.  If your selling I may well be interested, Please PM me with an idea of what you want for them.

I am at a funeral for most of tomorrow, So if I don't reply its not that I am not interested

Cheers

Mark

I could be tempted Mark, I'll bung you a photo.
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: d_Guy on 22 August 2017, 04:36:28 PM
I was about to make they same offer, ML, but it would be damn bad form to bid against Orcs. If he ends up deciding not to pull the trigger, I might be interested.
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 August 2017, 05:40:39 PM
No probs sir!
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: toxicpixie on 03 September 2017, 01:00:51 PM
Is it just me, or do actual historical regiment names sound like Imagi-Nations :D
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: sunjester on 03 September 2017, 04:15:46 PM
Quote from: toxicpixie on 03 September 2017, 01:00:51 PM
Is it just me, or do actual historical regiment names sound like Imagi-Nations :D

Some regimental names are so weird, no one could make it up!
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 04 September 2017, 05:43:30 AM
Quote from: sunjester on 03 September 2017, 04:15:46 PM
Some regimental names are so weird, no one could make it up!

Oglethopre's Blues anyone ? (and can you guess who they are now? )

IanS
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Sandinista on 04 September 2017, 06:12:53 AM
The only reference I could find of Oglethorpe' Regiment was the 42nd that was disbanded in 1748. Then the 43rd got renamed 42nd.

cheers
Ian
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 04 September 2017, 07:02:19 AM
They were a Cavalry Rgt - at Sedgmoor
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: d_Guy on 04 September 2017, 02:58:08 PM
Ian, I don't know if the Blues were known as Oglethorpe's. Oglethorpe was, I think, a Horse Guards officer (and their rank structure was inflated - a troop captain being considered a colonel  :o) who had been detailed to handle the scouting by Feversham. He certainly had elements of the Blues under his command (as well as elements of other horse regiments) and he was with one or more troops at Sedgemoor proper. I think at the time the Blues were still called Oxford's Blues (after their colonel). I could certainly be wrong, however.

Incidently, the Blues were formerly a New Model regiment which gives them an even more interesting linage.

Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: toxicpixie on 04 September 2017, 03:00:00 PM
I was thinking the Rangers the later Oglethorpe raised for service in Georgia :D
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 05 September 2017, 08:01:25 AM
They are certainly listed by Charlie Grant in "From Pike to Musket".

IanS
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Hwiccee on 05 September 2017, 09:06:37 AM
The 'Blues' were under the command/ownership of the Earl of Oxford at the time of Sedgemoor and generally known as 'the Oxford Blues'. But the Earl of Oxford was a good friend of Monmouth and in effect not trusted to lead the unit against Monmouth in 1685. So Oglethorpe who was a 'spare' colonel in the Horse Guards was given command.
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: d_Guy on 05 September 2017, 01:55:37 PM
For Sedgemoor, I've been working off the OoB in Chris Scott's book which has the Lt. Col. (Sir Francis Compton) commanding the Blues.

I suppose that the numbering system for regiments came about to help clear up the confusion of naming units after their colonel.

As an American I often become confused also by the reference to titles, which change how histories refer to a specific individual. Mackay suddenly becomes Scorie, Ormond becomes Ormonde, etc. It did raise my stock among the many friends who are Downton Abby fans when I could explain how Lady Edith, becoming a Marchioness, would instantly outrank everyone in her entire family.  :)
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Hwiccee on 05 September 2017, 02:28:28 PM
I don't have the Scott book but Compton was the Lt Colonel of the Blues at the time and he was wounded at the battle. Both Oxford and Oglethorpe were full Colonel's and so outranked him & so would get to 'name' the unit normally. But as you say the system was complicated and this unit could easily have be called 'Oxford's', 'Oglethorpe's' and 'Compton's' Blues without any actually being wrong.
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: d_Guy on 05 September 2017, 03:16:33 PM
Simplest to just call them the "Blues" and be done with it.  :)
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: profjohn on 17 November 2017, 03:12:32 AM
When the Green Howard's, the Duke of Wellington's and the Prince of Wales's Own were amalgamated they missed the chance to call them The Prince of Wales's Own Green Wellingtons.
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Sandinista on 17 November 2017, 04:43:49 AM
Quote from: profjohn on 17 November 2017, 03:12:32 AM
When the Green Howard's, the Duke of Wellington's and the Prince of Wales's Own were amalgamated they missed the chance to call them The Prince of Wales's Own Green Wellingtons.

;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: toxicpixie on 17 November 2017, 09:58:23 AM
Very good :D
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: ErHo on 17 November 2017, 01:57:28 PM
Quote from: profjohn on 17 November 2017, 03:12:32 AM
When the Green Howard's, the Duke of Wellington's and the Prince of Wales's Own were amalgamated they missed the chance to call them The Prince of Wales's Own Green Wellingtons.

That made my morning, cheers!  :D
Title: Re: The one period I do not play...
Post by: Terry37 on 17 November 2017, 03:04:26 PM
Re "The Prince of Wales's Own Green Wellingtons" - I would have thought that would have been THE PRINCE OF WALES's OWN GREEN WELLIES? At least that's what I've always heard them referred to, but then I'm on the other side of the pond. However, I do still have mine from our last visit to Watership Down.

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/IMG_7010_zpsfprx0pra.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/IMG_7010_zpsfprx0pra.jpg.html)
Our Wellies after walking the path Hazel and company took at Sandleford Warren to cross the Enborne.

(http://i257.photobucket.com/albums/hh235/terry37photos/Misc%201/IMG_5844_zpsxsjppbbt.jpg) (http://s257.photobucket.com/user/terry37photos/media/Misc%201/IMG_5844_zpsxsjppbbt.jpg.html)
Later at the "Great Beech" on top of Watership Down.

Terry