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Title: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Aksu on 17 August 2017, 04:48:22 PM
It's been a while since our club had a go at this, but we had a bit of a skirmish with Napoleonic Naval the other day, using David Manley's Form Line of Battle rules. Russians vs Swedes. I still have the knack of getting my ships loaded with the wrong ammunition and losing all boarding actions, but who cares. Arr shiver me timbers and kiss me Hardy!
(http://www.the-ancients.com/gemigabok/gemilog/wp-content/uploads/2017/08/img_4406.jpg)
Cheers,
Aksu
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 17 August 2017, 05:22:49 PM
Looks great! ☠️
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Techno on 17 August 2017, 06:14:15 PM
Those are rather splendid !  :-bd

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: paulr on 17 August 2017, 07:43:34 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: FierceKitty on 17 August 2017, 11:19:23 PM
Looks right.  :)
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Dr Dave on 18 August 2017, 07:31:33 AM
Looks great. FLOB is a great system as well. Terrific fun.
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Glorfindel on 18 August 2017, 09:00:51 AM
More photos please !   This looks like a particularly spectacular naval
collection.


Phil
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: SV52 on 18 August 2017, 09:47:08 AM
They really look the part  :-bd
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Aksu on 18 August 2017, 11:35:17 AM
Quote from: Glorfindel on 18 August 2017, 09:00:51 AM
More photos please !   This looks like a particularly spectacular naval
collection.Phil
Thank you for the kind words, I'll try and take some snaps. All my ships are Navwar, rigged and painted to gaming standard, ie nothing fancy. I have a few unbuilt Langton Swedish coastal ships, but I don't think I need that level of detail for games. Of all naval eras I do like the sail most for gaming, with possible exception of Victorian transition to steam and ACW with eg weird rubber coated ships. The modern era is more interesting on the operational campaign level I suppose.
Cheers,
Aksu
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: toxicpixie on 18 August 2017, 01:44:57 PM
Nice looking boats indeed.

Although it does look like you're about to have a five boat pile up , which is going to hurt :D

Was it resolved in one massive melee across multiple decks, Errol Flynn style?
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Roy on 18 August 2017, 03:50:22 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: ErHo on 01 September 2017, 07:00:23 PM
Noob here....  Navwar is a brand or ship style?   Where do you get these minis??
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: fsn on 01 September 2017, 08:10:00 PM
http://www.navwar.co.uk/nav/ (http://www.navwar.co.uk/nav/)  :D
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Roy on 02 September 2017, 06:05:07 PM
Navwar is a company, as fsn has provided the link for. They make naval models for wargaming (good value for money as they're low cost), but not really display quality miniatures. I've had their 1/1200 ships in the past, but I actually think their 1/3000 Napoleonic models are far superior sculpt wise (though they are very small - as in, a Ship of the Line fits on a 20mm square base).

Tumbling Dice make some nice naval miniatures, with the benefit of some of the rigging being cast onto the models. Though they are only 1/2400 in size. Useful to game with, though.
http://www.tumblingdiceuk.com/ (http://www.tumblingdiceuk.com/)

If you're after the top of the range quality gaming miniatures for age of sail naval, then its probably Langton Miniatures that you should go to. But to do them justice you really do need to have a competent degree of modelling and ship painting skill, I'd say. Lovely models, and they look great in a game. If you're after display models then this is the company to buy from out of these three.
http://www.rodlangton.com/ (http://www.rodlangton.com/)
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 03 September 2017, 07:18:53 AM
WARNING WARNING - rigging 1/1200th scale ships will lead to LOTS and LOTS of really foul language.

IanS  :( :(
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: FierceKitty on 03 September 2017, 07:32:31 AM
Warning - DON'T put pennants and jacks streaming out behind the ships. It's an easy mistake to make, but these vessels like the wind more or less behind them; they aren't motor-boats.
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: pierre the shy on 03 September 2017, 08:04:29 AM
Quote from: ianrs54 on 03 September 2017, 07:18:53 AM
WARNING WARNING - rigging 1/1200th scale ships will lead to LOTS and LOTS of really foul language.

IanS  :( :(

Do you use etched brass ratlines on your ships Ian or does installing them have its own unique language  :-

I can remember making a 1:600 Airfix kit of the Victory many years ago with moulded plastic ratlines that took a fair bit of doing shall we say.   
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 03 September 2017, 08:30:35 AM
Cotton for a very stripped down running rigging, and net curtain for the ratlines.

IanS
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Westmarcher on 03 September 2017, 10:02:16 AM
Nice looking ships, Aksu. I've never played 18th/19th century age of sail games using actual models, using simple top down view cardboard cut outs instead. On the subject of rigging and peanuts etc.(believe it or not, I did type 'pennants'), from a practical viewpoint, what do naval wargamers do to denote a vessel losing a mast? Using our cardboard hulls, it was easy enough to cross off a mast with a felt-tip pen but with a model there seems to be the dilemma of fully rigging it to enhance its appearance or not rigging it to allow the removal of masts. What do the larger scale naval wargamers (i.e., not 1/3000) do?
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Roy on 03 September 2017, 10:23:57 AM
Use a counter to say its suffered a dismasting if there's a need for on-table information. Or, just cross off a mast's structure points on a reference sheet if that's how the rules work. That's how I do it. I might have a model of a ship sinking, but none for a hull without masts due to battle or sailing damage.
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Aksu on 03 September 2017, 06:34:58 PM
Quote from: Westmarcher on 03 September 2017, 10:02:16 AM
from a practical viewpoint, what do naval wargamers do to denote a vessel losing a mast? Using our cardboard hulls, it was easy enough to cross off a mast with a felt-tip pen but with a model there seems to be the dilemma of fully rigging it to enhance its appearance or not rigging it to allow the removal of masts. What do the larger scale naval wargamers (i.e., not 1/3000) do?
We usually put a matchstick next to the ship on the side the mast fell. I don't remove any masts from the model. Also I am still to make wreck dioramas for sinking ships... another item on my endless to do list.
I really need to deliver on my promise to put up pics of my rough and ready ships with minimal rigging, I haven't even done any shrouds on them, some of my mates have. One of these days :)
Aksu
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Aksu on 03 September 2017, 06:40:06 PM
Here's a pic of ships in transit - magnets on bases and biscuit tin to store them. Hence the mirror image in the background.
(http://www.the-ancients.com/gemigabok/gemilog/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/img_4405.jpg)
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: fred. on 03 September 2017, 07:14:17 PM
They look good!
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: paulr on 03 September 2017, 07:39:35 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd =D>
Nice ships, with pennants flying the right way ;)
I particularly like the Santísima Trinidad :)
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Westmarcher on 03 September 2017, 07:47:18 PM
Trific!  :-bd
Pity there's no photos on the Navwar website - grateful for your photos.
Also, like the idea of a matchstick!
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 September 2017, 09:05:04 PM
Wow, very cool!
Title: Re: 1/1200 Naval
Post by: Roy on 04 September 2017, 10:36:59 AM
Nice  :)