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Title: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: SV52 on 03 August 2017, 01:00:00 PM
Expanding existing armies.  Ran out of steam with two cavalry regiments still to go, same old mistake; trying to do too many at once. So in the meantime while I shamble off to do something different:

For the Covenant:
(http://i.imgur.com/zAWkcYH.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/sQ11yiZ.jpg)
(http://i.imgur.com/bT15LAG.jpg)

For Montrose and the King:
(http://i.imgur.com/tQgw38V.jpg)

No pretence to historical accuracy, my own artistic license  ;)
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: Roy on 03 August 2017, 01:19:06 PM
They look blooming well good  :-bd  =D> :-bd
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: d_Guy on 03 August 2017, 02:36:00 PM
I like them SV52 as they serve the purpose of getting enough units together to actually play a game. The sometime forgotten advantage of 10mm is to base them like 28mm ( figures to base) and gain a near tripling of ground scale - bigger battles in smaller spaces.

As to historical accuracy, there is a good deal of dogma surrounding how this time and place should be done. I think there is still a great deal of room for interpretation and yours convey a decent "look and feel" which to me at least is the point. So,  :-bd

Hope you'll' get back to the horse.  :)

You may have mentioned before but do you have a specific rules set in mind?
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: sunjester on 03 August 2017, 03:14:13 PM
Looking very nice!
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 03 August 2017, 03:42:24 PM
Very cool!
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: SV52 on 03 August 2017, 05:26:46 PM
Many thanks for the replies comrades.

de Guy: A man after my own heart.  I try to limit the numbers on figures, these are on 40mmx20mm and 40mmx30mm bases.  Once the horse are done the army will have 7 foot, 4 horse, 1 dragoon base and three guns (plenty to move around and keep track of for a solo gamer).  The Montrose crowd are roughly similar but sparser numbers.  Rules not yet defined but 'One Hour Wargames' pike and shot on hex terrain the most likely

The boys at Pendraken towers were good enough to let me have a non-standard order for these fellas  8)
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: d_Guy on 03 August 2017, 07:17:40 PM
 :)

I play solo also.

FWIW - I did a variant on One Hour Games for Musket and Pike (Which includes a couple of great ideas from Norm Smith) with Montrose's campaign specifically in mind. A PDF of the current version can be found on my blog here:

https://inredcoatragsattired.com/homebrew-rules-empty/one-hour-wargames/


It's worth mentioning to all again that the 30 generic scenarios provided in Neil Thomas's book are more than worth the purchase price alone.
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: paulr on 03 August 2017, 07:25:52 PM
 :-bd =D> :-bd

Looking good SV52
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: SV52 on 03 August 2017, 08:06:36 PM
Quote from: d_Guy on 03 August 2017, 07:17:40 PM
:)

I play solo also.

FWIW - I did a variant on One Hour Games for Musket and Pike (Which includes a couple of great ideas from Norm Smith) with Montrose's campaign specifically in mind. A PDF of the current version can be found on my blog here:

https://inredcoatragsattired.com/homebrew-rules-empty/one-hour-wargames/

It's worth mentioning to all again that the 30 generic scenarios provided in Neil Thomas's book are more than worth the purchase price alone.


That makes interesting reading, more or less where I was going too.  Unsure about including artillery though; as Mr Thomas says, it was so ineffective as to not be worth bothering with. Especially true in the Scottish case as the ordnance was of light calibre and poor quality (frame guns for example).  It does look good on the table though...

I'll get the horse done and, together some simple scenery and have a game.
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: SV52 on 03 August 2017, 08:07:09 PM
Quote from: paulr on 03 August 2017, 07:25:52 PM
:-bd =D> :-bd

Looking good SV52

Thanks Paul  :D
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: Womble67 on 04 August 2017, 12:16:40 AM
Very nice indeed

Take care

Andy
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: FierceKitty on 04 August 2017, 01:14:09 AM
What is WTK? Much as I favour "War of the Kilts", I fear I'm wrong there.
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: d_Guy on 04 August 2017, 03:38:28 AM
Quote from: SV52 on 03 August 2017, 08:06:36 PM
 It does look good on the table though...
Yup!  :)

For game purposes I think of the guns that I substituted in as the heavier field guns, Sakers and that sort. I added them to mostly function as an impediment  to the side that gets them! If you are doing a scenario where you have to get some or all your force across the board and you draw one or two of the beasts things get very problematic (If you decide to fire them they can no longer move!). Very unhandy.  :)

Incidentally, I rationalized their absence in the original rules by figuring that the light field guns (like the frame guns you mentioned) are simply folded into the offense fire of the foot.


Quote from: FierceKitty on 04 August 2017, 01:14:09 AM
What is WTK? Much as I favour "War of the Kilts", I fear I'm wrong there.
I want to know also, but would embrace War of the Kilts as well.
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: Fenton on 04 August 2017, 04:45:48 AM
Are we talking about the Bishops War?
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: paulr on 04 August 2017, 04:48:12 AM
WTK Wars of the Three Kingdoms; England, Scotland, Ireland 1639 - 1651 I believe
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: Techno on 04 August 2017, 05:49:58 AM
 8)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: fsn on 04 August 2017, 06:32:22 AM
Used to be known as the English Civil War(s).

Probably inaccurately.
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: SV52 on 04 August 2017, 08:22:03 AM
Quote from: FierceKitty on 04 August 2017, 01:14:09 AM
What is WTK? Much as I favour "War of the Kilts", I fear I'm wrong there.

The War of the Three Kingdoms (WTK or W3K), a much more accurate description of the 17th century unpleasantness than ECW.
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: SV52 on 04 August 2017, 08:25:56 AM
Quote from: Fenton on 04 August 2017, 04:45:48 AM
Are we talking about the Bishops War?

No the BIshops Wars were 1638 1639, when Charlie boy tried to force the book of common prayer onto the Scots Kirk, bad mistake.  He went  to war with Scotland to force the issue and was badly beaten.  He then went to the English parliament to get money to fight the Scots again, that cost him his head in the long run.
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: FierceKitty on 04 August 2017, 09:28:40 AM
Quote from: SV52 on 04 August 2017, 08:22:03 AM
The War of the Three Kingdoms (WTK or W3K), a much more accurate description of the 17th century unpleasantness than ECW.

Makes sense. But it sounds like something from 8th century China, doesn't it?
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: Ithoriel on 04 August 2017, 10:37:07 AM
I keep thinking of Prokofiev Op33!

It'll remain the ECW to me.
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: SV52 on 04 August 2017, 11:13:14 AM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 04 August 2017, 10:37:07 AM
I keep thinking of Prokofiev Op33!

It'll remain the ECW to me.

In England it always will be, L3O not one of my favourites ;)
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: fsn on 04 August 2017, 11:35:53 AM
For me it will now be "the 17th Century Unpleasantness".   :D
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: FierceKitty on 04 August 2017, 11:49:57 AM
Quote from: fsn on 04 August 2017, 11:35:53 AM
For me it will now be "the 17th Century Unpleasantness".   :D

And the 30YW can be the extreme 17th Century Unpleasantness.
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: Orcs on 04 August 2017, 06:28:45 PM
I Like those they look really nice
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: SV52 on 04 August 2017, 06:50:18 PM
Hmm, yeah  ;D

Cheers Orcs.

Anyone know an easy way to paint horses (apart from don't)? 15 down, 15 to go  :'(
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 04 August 2017, 07:05:56 PM
Coat d'arns horse colour pack, brown, black or chestnut wash(depending on base shades), some get highlighted, then bridles and tack.
Title: Re: WTK Scots and plus an Irish
Post by: SV52 on 05 August 2017, 08:48:59 AM
Quote from: mad lemmey on 04 August 2017, 07:05:56 PM
Coat d'arns horse colour pack, brown, black or chestnut wash(depending on base shades), some get highlighted, then bridles and tack.

Cheers; sounds worth trying.  I've already got the paint versions of all those and a couple more; very thin paint perhaps?