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Title: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Leon on 21 July 2017, 11:04:23 PM
We put this up on our Facebook page earlier today but we've not had any successful guesses yet so I'm putting it up here as well:

"These arrived at Pendraken HQ today, 84 new moulds... I wonder what might be in them?  More details t' be confirmed soon!"

(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20264787_10155231318720412_7121382374897227898_n.jpg?oh=40383dd5d195afc8ab12b8a2dbf2efa0&oe=59F75F99)
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: paulr on 21 July 2017, 11:12:39 PM
Bloody hell :o

We forget about then scale of things at Pendraken Towers

So many choices 8->

Are you teasing the cat by any chance ;)
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Sandinista on 22 July 2017, 12:22:04 AM
TB Lines 10mm range?

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: d_Guy on 22 July 2017, 02:38:09 AM
GW's Warmaster range or maybe ....Duckmen!!! or...wait for it....Aztecs!!! <:-P
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: FierceKitty on 22 July 2017, 03:16:38 AM
I wonder.....
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 July 2017, 06:22:33 AM
Samurai Apes
Ethereal Undead
Duck men
Armoured bears
Meerkats
Tanks
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: fsn on 22 July 2017, 06:27:51 AM
Just in ... Video of Dave stress testing the moulds ...

Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: fsn on 22 July 2017, 06:30:18 AM
Well from the shape I'd say ....

Chinese coins?
Polo mints?
Millstones?
Elizabethan ruffs?
or Dave's collection of 8mm home movies (The 1974 Xmas edition is a hoot)


Lewis Guns Magazines?
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Steve J on 22 July 2017, 06:48:10 AM
No idea but the TB Line figures would be great. Looking forward to the big reveal... :)
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Fenton on 22 July 2017, 07:14:14 AM
I think someone else is doing TB now and Leon said on FB the moulds are not Pendraken made. Is FF stamped on one of them give anyone any clues?
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Dr Dave on 22 July 2017, 07:32:31 AM
Are any of them for a Morris cdsw 6x4 bofors tractor - so we can pull our 40mm Bofors guns?  ;D
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 22 July 2017, 08:58:50 AM
Not Aztecs - NEVER Aztecs. Please NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Techno on 22 July 2017, 09:15:35 AM
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, ad infinitum (you get the idea) -1 AGAINST Aztecs.

(I know where the masters are.)  :D :P

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Techno on 22 July 2017, 09:26:39 AM
BUT......I think we should be told.

How many of those are master moulds.....and how many are production moulds ?

Did I have ANYTHING, in any way, to do with any of the figures on the moulds ? (Lots of any's there.) :P

(Please......NOOOOOOOOOOOO !.....Don't let them be what I think they might be.)

Cheers - Mr Anonymous



Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: fred. on 22 July 2017, 09:52:00 AM
I've no idea what they might be. But there are certainly a lot of them.

Intriguing...
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Fenton on 22 July 2017, 09:54:22 AM
Quote from: Techno on 22 July 2017, 09:26:39 AM

(Please......NOOOOOOOOOOOO !.....Don't let them be what I think they might be.)

Cheers - Mr Anonymous





Did you do tiny 10mm sculpts of a naked and drunk Techno which you thought were safely stored in a box at the back of barn but might have accidentally posted to Leon when a little worse for wear?
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Techno on 22 July 2017, 10:07:04 AM
Nope !  ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

I'm as much in the dark as everyone else.

Cheers - Phil (Probably)

Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Orcs on 22 July 2017, 10:15:41 AM
Cracker line and /or Plank road minis to be produced under license?

The complete Korean war range?

WW2 Belgians?

Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: fsn on 22 July 2017, 10:27:23 AM
'cos I'm interested in the process, could someone tell me how many figures would be in one of those moulds?

Would it be the same figure, or a number of different figures? How do you balance moulds for packs that are a mix of poses?

Leon - could you do us a piccy of the inside after the big reveal?  B)
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 22 July 2017, 01:09:57 PM
Quote from: Techno on 22 July 2017, 09:15:35 AM
1,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000,000, ad infinitum (you get the idea) -1 AGAINST Aztecs.

(I know where the masters are.)  :D :P

Cheers - Phil

Are they still on your radiator?  :-\

I've got a photo of that radiator somewhere  ;)
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Leon on 22 July 2017, 03:08:49 PM
Some interesting guesses so far...  ;)

Quote from: Techno on 22 July 2017, 09:26:39 AM
How many of those are master moulds.....and how many are production moulds ?

About 10 master and 74 production, I've not gone through all of them yet though.

Quote from: Techno on 22 July 2017, 09:26:39 AM
Did I have ANYTHING, in any way, to do with any of the figures on the moulds ? (Lots of any's there.) :P

Not that I know of, unless you've been moonlighting for someone else in 10mm...

Quote from: Techno on 22 July 2017, 09:26:39 AM
(Please......NOOOOOOOOOOOO !.....Don't let them be what I think they might be.)

They're probably not but I'm curious as to what you think they might be?!  It's not the old GW Warmaster ranges, I can confirm that!
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Leon on 22 July 2017, 03:09:16 PM
Quote from: fsn on 22 July 2017, 10:27:23 AM
'cos I'm interested in the process, could someone tell me how many figures would be in one of those moulds?

Would it be the same figure, or a number of different figures? How do you balance moulds for packs that are a mix of poses?

Leon - could you do us a piccy of the inside after the big reveal?  B)

If you start a separate thread with those questions, I'll run through the moulding process for everyone.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: d_Guy on 22 July 2017, 03:46:26 PM
Quote from: Leon on 22 July 2017, 03:09:16 PM
If you start a separate thread with those questions, I'll run through the moulding process for everyone.

Git 'er done, fsn, this would be totally interesting!
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Norm on 22 July 2017, 04:07:02 PM
Leon - is it something that sits outside of 10mm?

Is it to do with the Sci-Fi side of things?

Is it a naval range?
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: fred. on 22 July 2017, 04:17:12 PM
Quote from: Leon on 22 July 2017, 03:08:49 PM
It's not the old GW Warmaster ranges, I can confirm that!

Thats a shame, but not too surprising, there were some cracking figures in the WM ranges.

Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: OldenBUA on 22 July 2017, 05:14:06 PM
I'm thinking it could be the 10mm WW2 ranges from Pithead?

The current owner has indicated that he would like to get on with other stuff. Also, a lot of the minor nations are covered, so good for BKC. And there are free French, so the F.F. would be explained.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 July 2017, 05:19:19 PM
Quote from: Leon on 22 July 2017, 03:08:49 PM
About 10 master and 74 production, I've not gone through all of them yet though.

So, a reasonable number of figures then, presumably ...

Quote from: Leon on 22 July 2017, 03:08:49 PM
Not that I know of, unless you've been moonlighting for someone else in 10mm...

... and in 10mm.

Quote from: Leon on 22 July 2017, 03:08:49 PM
They're probably not but I'm curious as to what you think they might be?!  It's not the old GW Warmaster ranges, I can confirm that!

I'd have been gobsmacked (but pleased), if it was.

I did wonder if it might be the "Evil Men" range.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 July 2017, 05:23:53 PM
Too many molds and Pendraken did the casts for those, so they would be Pendraken issue molds.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Fenton on 22 July 2017, 05:29:53 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 22 July 2017, 05:19:19 PM


I did wonder if it might be the "Evil Men" range.

I was thinking of them as well
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 July 2017, 05:32:06 PM
True ML.

Not enough moulds for Pithead I'd have thought.

Who else is out there? Steve Barber? Polar Fox? Obelisk? Van Dyke? Black Gate?
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: fred. on 22 July 2017, 05:46:16 PM
Obelisk could be an option - but I think there are too many moulds for that, their 10mm (well 12mm) range was only about 15 packs

I'm also a bit confused how the number of master moulds relates to the number of production moulds. But I suppose if you have a pack with 3 command and 2 line, that is only 5 master figures, which would then give you a full production mould. And the next pack could re-use the command, so you might get 3 or 4 production moulds from say 11 master figures, which is 1/3rd of a full mould.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Leon on 22 July 2017, 06:09:09 PM
I can confirm that we've had a winning guess so far in this thread, I'll leave it a bit longer for people to work it out.  There may have been a slight grammatical clue in my original post...

Quote from: Norm on 22 July 2017, 04:07:02 PM
Leon - is it something that sits outside of 10mm?

Is it to do with the Sci-Fi side of things?

Is it a naval range?

It's 10mm, but none of those areas.

Quote from: OldenBUA on 22 July 2017, 05:14:06 PM
I'm thinking it could be the 10mm WW2 ranges from Pithead?

Not Pithead I'm afraid, Phil does some cracking model though so if he ever did want to sell up we'd certainly be interested.

Quote from: Ithoriel on 22 July 2017, 05:32:06 PM
Who else is out there? Steve Barber? Polar Fox? Obelisk? Van Dyke? Black Gate?

I'd not heard of Polar Fox or Obelisk before, I'll have to go look for some info/pictures about them.  We've done some bases for Black Gate and their recent Kickstarters, so it's not them.  Not Steve Barber either, nice figures though!

Quote from: fred. on 22 July 2017, 05:46:16 PM
I'm also a bit confused how the number of master moulds relates to the number of production moulds.

You can get around 30-35 foot figures in a master mould, so depending on how many different poses per pack you're doing, that's potentially a lot of production moulds.  If your figure packs are 2 poses each then you can get at least 15 codes-worth out of a single master mould.  If packs have 5 poses, then you're getting 6-7 codes out of the master mould.

Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Fenton on 22 July 2017, 06:09:15 PM
Quote from: Ithoriel on 22 July 2017, 05:32:06 PM
True ML.

Not enough moulds for Pithead I'd have thought.

Who else is out there? Steve Barber? Polar Fox? Obelisk? Van Dyke? Black Gate?

Hinchclife and AIM as well
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Leon on 22 July 2017, 06:10:31 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 22 July 2017, 06:09:15 PM
Hinchclife and AIM as well

Do Hinchliffe do 10mm?  I think they might have some of the old Wargames South moulds still?  AIM are in storage as far as I know until Tom Dye brings them back into circulation.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Fenton on 22 July 2017, 06:13:00 PM
It is  Dave's collection of 8mm home movies!
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: fred. on 22 July 2017, 06:24:09 PM
As we have mentioned pretty much ever 10mm line out there...

Looking at Leon's first post it is now obvious what the answer is. And it would certainly match with the pile of moulds.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Fenton on 22 July 2017, 06:25:13 PM
Have you done a deal with Eureka for their fantasy ranges?
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Fenton on 22 July 2017, 06:26:33 PM
Ah I think I see what you mean fred
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: fred. on 22 July 2017, 06:34:32 PM
Quote from: Leon on 22 July 2017, 06:09:09 PM

I'd not heard of Polar Fox or Obelisk before, I'll have to go look for some info/pictures about them. 

Polar Fox do very nice fantasy figures - based in Siberia, but still deliver quickly. A couple of chaps in my gaming group have figures from their Orc & Goblin range, they are very much in the GW style.

Obelisk is now defunct - they did a range of Conquistadors and Aztecs and other Mexican Indians. Fairly small range of figures, very nice sculpts, but large figures certainly 12mm, rather than 10mm. I managed to get some off Tsuba miniatures, but they weren't listing them on their store last time I looked.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 22 July 2017, 06:35:23 PM
Timecast's 1984 range? ;)
No one else has said it...
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Dazza on 22 July 2017, 07:32:24 PM
I'd go with the Korean Range.

=)


Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: mollinary on 22 July 2017, 07:39:01 PM
Quote from: Leon on 22 July 2017, 06:10:31 PM
Do Hinchliffe do 10mm?  I think they might have some of the old Wargames South moulds still?  AIM are in storage as far as I know until Tom Dye brings them back into circulation.

Some of the AIM ranges are produced in U.K. by Caliver.

Mollinary

Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Fenton on 22 July 2017, 08:07:00 PM
I think the clue is "More details t' be confirmed soon!"
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: mollinary on 22 July 2017, 08:26:32 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 22 July 2017, 08:07:00 PM
I think the clue is "More details t' be confirmed soon!"


You don't say!?
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: O Dinas Powys on 22 July 2017, 08:57:29 PM
Quote from: mollinary on 22 July 2017, 08:26:32 PM
Quote from: Fenton on 22 July 2017, 08:07:00 PM
I think the clue is "More details t' be confirmed soon!"

You don't say!?


T'B or not T'B; if that is the answer then Steve J did ask the question...

Quote from: Steve J on 22 July 2017, 06:48:10 AM
No idea but the TB Line figures would be great. Looking forward to the big reveal... :)

;)

Either that, or it's the new "Build you own Honey Bee Hive in 1:1" magazine from DeAgostini - First Issue (of 10,000) £2.99, regular Price £6.99  ;)
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Sandinista on 22 July 2017, 09:01:18 PM
Quote from: Sandinista on 22 July 2017, 12:22:04 AM
TB Lines 10mm range?

He has replied to all other mentions of manufactures apart from this one

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Leon on 22 July 2017, 10:08:37 PM
And Ian was the winner, right in there with the correct guess almost straightaway!

We are excited to announce that we've recently purchased the rights to all of the TB Line 10mm ranges, previously owned by Aster Wargame in Italy.  All of the moulds were shipped to Pendraken HQ this past week and we'll start checking them over soon.  We'd like to thank Corrado at Aster Wargame for offering us the opportunity to buy these ranges and for all of his time during the purchase process.

(https://scontent.flhr4-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/20258398_10155235647755412_3174254063583055018_n.jpg?oh=f4ad36e1c485a02e40da8e5463de496b&oe=59FAD1DF)
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Ithoriel on 22 July 2017, 10:11:31 PM
Gak! So much for reducing the lead mountain!  =) =) =)

Great news none the less!
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: d_Guy on 23 July 2017, 03:33:34 AM
Congratulations on the purchase!
I notice a whole new set of proxies I can use for Berbers at Tangier!

Realize you have to check things out but any estimate on when you might be spinning up figures?

OK - never mind - I just saw your detailed announcement thread!
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Techno on 23 July 2017, 01:55:14 PM
Quote from: Leon on 22 July 2017, 03:08:49 PM
Not that I know of, unless you've been moonlighting for someone else in 10mm...
They're probably not but I'm curious as to what you think they might be?! 

You already know the only firm I 'moonlight'  for in 10mm *....and that's once in a blue moon.  ;D ;D ;D
I'll 'mail you a to as to who I was worried it might be.

Cheers - Phil

(* Some clever b*ggers on the forum have already sussed this out, through some good detective work, but have been sworn to secrecy......With the threat of Von going round to their homes and doing them over with a brick !.....YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.  ;D ;D ;D ;D)
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: FJAdams on 23 July 2017, 02:06:09 PM
Quote from: Leon on 22 July 2017, 03:08:49 PM
Some interesting guesses so far...  ;)

About 10 master and 74 production, I've not gone through all of them yet though.

Not that I know of, unless you've been moonlighting for someone else in 10mm...

They're probably not but I'm curious as to what you think they might be?!  It's not the old GW Warmaster ranges, I can confirm that!

I'd love to see you pick up the GW Warmaster range so we wouldn't be forced to pay the ridiculous prices being asked for them.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Leon on 23 July 2017, 02:07:59 PM
Quote from: FJAdams on 23 July 2017, 02:06:09 PM
I'd love to see you pick up the GW Warmaster range so we wouldn't be forced to pay the ridiculous prices being asked for them.

I think if they ever came up for sale we'd certainly be interested but a) I doubt GW would ever sell them, and b) they'd want a ridiculous price for them.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Raider4 on 23 July 2017, 02:11:06 PM
Quote from: FJAdams on 23 July 2017, 02:06:09 PM
I'd love to see you pick up the GW Warmaster range . . . 
Sorry, will never, ever happen.

Martyn
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Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: FJAdams on 23 July 2017, 02:46:58 PM
Quote from: Leon on 23 July 2017, 02:07:59 PM
I think if they ever came up for sale we'd certainly be interested but a) I doubt GW would ever sell them, and b) they'd want a ridiculous price for them.

Yeah, it'd be very expensive.  Makes you wonder why they just let them sit there unused wen there is still such a demand for them.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Techno on 23 July 2017, 03:17:57 PM
They've almost certainly cut them up into tiny pieces of rubber for re-cycling.
They won't exist anymore.

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: fsn on 23 July 2017, 06:30:53 PM
Quote from: Techno on 23 July 2017, 01:55:14 PM
With the threat of Von going round to their homes and doing them over with a brick !.....YOU KNOW WHO YOU ARE.  ;D ;D ;D ;D)

Which reminds me, could she at least take the bricks back with her?  I'm getting quite a pile.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Techno on 24 July 2017, 05:52:06 AM
Who's going to give the obvious reply.  :D

Cheers - Phil.
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Duke Speedy of Leighton on 24 July 2017, 06:12:05 AM
Dust. There's dust in them there molds!
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Roy on 24 July 2017, 09:19:58 AM
the most comprehensive range of 10mm Imperial Japanese forces (1931 to 1945) in the gaming world!?!  8->
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Wulf on 24 July 2017, 09:47:08 AM
Really Really big 10mm scale elephants  :D
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Lord Kermit of Birkenhead on 24 July 2017, 10:26:15 AM
Quote from: Wulf on 24 July 2017, 09:47:08 AM
Really Really big 10mm scale elephants  :D

No just fasands of em to the Satrh East sir
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Roy on 24 July 2017, 01:03:49 PM
Mould. They've probably not been used for a while so those moulds are full of mould. So a good supply of mould cleaner will be needed to clean the mould out of those moulds, so the moulds can be then used to mould some miniature castings. But saying that, if the mould in those moulds is of a strong enough form, then maybe that mould could be moulded to create a mould that could be cast from and so helping to create new moulds for mould growth to grow in? But according to spellcheck, the mould that I'm referring to should be spelt mold (US spelling), but that wouldn't have the same ring to it. So its mould, within the moulds. Hope that makes sense  :)
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: d_Guy on 24 July 2017, 02:52:14 PM
What colour would that mould be?


have others noticed that the forum spell checker favours US spelling?
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Techno on 24 July 2017, 03:53:19 PM
Grey......'Cos the dust in the moulds is talcum powder....Or similar. (True)

Cheers - Phil
Title: Re: What might be in these moulds?
Post by: Roy on 24 July 2017, 06:00:23 PM
I'm using Google Chrome as my Internet thingy, so it underlines all my spelling errors with a red line to point them out. Its set to US English as standard, so there's definitely a 'tomato-tomatoe' with Google Chrome.