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Wider Wargaming => Genre/Period Discussion => Firelocks to Maxims (1680 - 1900) => Topic started by: Sandinista on 13 June 2017, 07:01:33 PM

Title: Dragoon guidons 1690 period
Post by: Sandinista on 13 June 2017, 07:01:33 PM
Can anyone point me in the direction of good information relating to dragoon guidons for English, Scots and Irish forces of the 1690s? This would be to cover both the Williamite and Jacobite armies.

I should point out that I am looking to produce sets of flags to add to the LoA range Pendraken already sell in 10mm.  Which is why I am looking for references to base these upon, rather than appropriating other's designs.

My thoughts were if I can't find any historical images or references, to use the royal cyphers on various coloured background, perhaps with St George or St Andrew crosses at the hoist or top canton.

Any thoughts?

Many thanks
Ian
Title: Re: Dragoon guidons 1690 period
Post by: fred. on 13 June 2017, 08:41:51 PM
Barry Hilton over at the League of Augsberg site has a collection of PDFs detailing the uniforms and flags of the various units at the Boyne. I believe these are very well researched - but there is still a large degree of conjecture over uniforms and flags.
Title: Re: Dragoon guidons 1690 period
Post by: Sandinista on 14 June 2017, 09:54:53 AM
Yes, I have them, they are great. But I would like to find to original references rather than copy someone else's work

cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Dragoon guidons 1690 period
Post by: fred. on 14 June 2017, 10:09:01 AM
He might be worth contacting. I think clib has worked on figures for him too?
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Post by: urbancohort on 01 July 2017, 09:45:21 AM
Great idea! If you do make a range, can I ask you look at doing 10mm scale flags for the Sedgemoor Campaign please? I am too damn lazy to paint my own but they are subtly different from those of a few years later when the same regiments were in William's service in Ireland?

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Title: Re: Dragoon guidons 1690 period
Post by: SV52 on 01 July 2017, 10:20:59 AM
Not an easy one that.  Stuart Reid produced handy little volumes for around that time.  I believe the convention was that where the colonel was the proprietor of a regiment the colours/standard/guidon would reflect the colonel's personal arms, using ground colours and emblems.  Fairly straightforward for Dukes and the like but more difficult for those a bit further down the social ladder; e.g.

(http://i.imgur.com/GkPDBYh.jpg)

Not claiming this to be in any way historically accurate.
Title: Re: Dragoon guidons 1690 period
Post by: Sandinista on 02 July 2017, 04:40:26 AM
I hope to send some sheets of dragoon guidons to Leon later this week

Cheers
Ian
Title: Re: Dragoon guidons 1690 period
Post by: paulr on 02 July 2017, 04:42:31 AM
Once you finish celebrating ;)
Title: Re: Dragoon guidons 1690 period
Post by: Sandinista on 02 July 2017, 05:56:15 AM
Quote from: paulr on 02 July 2017, 04:42:31 AM
Once you finish celebrating ;)
:D
I have tickets for the decider, if we win that then I will really be celebrating  <:-P

Cheers
Ian